OK - I guess she's a keeper...

[Bjoern 1,157]

Thank you, but where is a link?

 

We're on Avsim, which has a pretty expansive file library. And guess what entering "N474AN" into the search box there yields...?

[scottb613 1,188]

Hi Bjoern,

 

A nice "respectable" biz jet paint - looks mighty fine sir...

 

Hi Robert,

 

Yeah - another way is just search for Learjet in the file library and sort by date... Any recent paints should show up...

 

Regards,

Scott

[Bjoern 1,157]

Took the Lear for a spin from Greenville to Kingston, Jamaica (~1000 nm) but got an OOM error on descent at around 50 nm out. With DX10.

This is the same issue that really dented my enthusiasm for the JF L-1011.

 

*Sigh*

 

Let's hope the VAS patch improves things.

 

 

 

Things I've noticed during the flight:

 

• All cockpit clocks only count up to 99 minutes.
• "SPD" mode did not work at all, regardless of "ALT/Sel" mode engaged or not
• Altitude hold did not disengage when the "ALT/Hld" or "ALT/sel" button was turned off. I had to set the target altitude first.

 

Can anyone confirm these?

 

 

 

One for the bizjet drivers: Is a Lear 35 at ~14000 lbs really that much of a rocket?

I didn't even use full throttle and went through 10000 faster than I could wrap my head around what was happening. Granted, I'm only used to 727s and DC-9s, but this was a F-104 like experience.

 

And it felt odd that I had to keep some power applied on descent. Is this also normal?

[signmanbob 592]

Hi Bjoern,

 

A nice "respectable" biz jet paint - looks mighty fine sir...

 

Hi Robert,

 

Yeah - another way is just search for Learjet in the file library and sort by date... Any recent paints should show up...

 

Regards,

Scott

Thank you Scott.

[ryanbatc 12,836]

I've been flying this jet A LOT on pilot edge....  it has really grown on me.  VAS isn't a big issue for me on P3D and it's fairly FPS friendly.  And then Scott made such nice paints it's easy to fly those around.

 

I thought SPD mode wasn't modeled.  Or maybe I missed that part.  I basically have the same issue with the ALT hold... it's a little funky.  It's more for altitude arming (alt capture) when you're climbing in a vertical mode I think.  Yes, you need to set the new altitude first, then press alt hold, then pitch down/trim, then press VS mode to lock in the VS speed.  I think it is a bit of a rocket, I'm not sure if that's realistic, but I say on a medium load (in load manager) I can do about 4000-5000 fpm at 250 kias through 10000, then I pitch down for 270 kias in a climb and that is around 3000 fpm, slows to 2000 fpm into the flight levels, and at mach transition I climb around .65 or maybe .70 if I've got a long way to go.

[ark 1,288]

Speed hold seems to work fine for me in climbs or descents if:

 

- I set a target altitude

- Turn off ALTHLD if on

- Arm ALTSEL

- Put the a/c in a climb or descent

- Push SPD when the desired IAS is reached

 

Speed hold is only used for climbs or descents.

 

Al

[scottb613 1,188]

 

OK - it's a 60 but I've seen 25's do it - so I'm sure the 35 is no slouch... Personally - I pitch and power to keep my climbs less than 3000 FPM to keep it manageable... Learjets - there can be only one...

 

Regards,

Scott

[scottb613 1,188]

Hi Folks,

 

LOL - thanks Ryan !

 

Just for discussion - a climb profile spreadsheet I built off a real world flight planner - I'm sure this is not a maximum performance climb and observes real world limitations such as "max continuous thrust" - I just added the time column on the end for this post to estimate "time to climb" - - - by my calculations it looks like 27 minutes to 45K... Aircraft loading - unknown...

 

 

 

 

Regards,

Scott

[Bjoern 1,157]

If I'm not the only one with AP issues, I need to revisit the vertical modes.

 

Since I already have a working PID controller for "speed by pitch" from the DC-9 upgrade, I'm going to try to fit it into the Learjet. It works quite well in the bigger jet, although it will lapse a bit over time in climb.

VS hold will be a bit easier with the altitude targets simply set to infinitiy and/or zero and control wheel steering as a method for adjustment. Same for ALT SEL with CWS added for VS adaption.

 

 

 

Scott:

 

I'd like to have a PDF of your charts and checklists.

[scottb613 1,188]

Hi Bjoern,

 

Sure - let me see what I can put together... I have cruise and descent on my spreadsheet as well... Do you use OpenOffice ? That's the native format of my docs... I'm not sure I have all the files with me at the moment - may need to wait until next week... I'll look...

 

 

Put'n the miles on this bird:

 

 

Regards,

Scott

[Bjoern 1,157]

Libreoffice, so yes.

[rightseat 277]

I was also a doubter about this plane, but the sale came along, and WHAM!!! I haven't flown anything since. I am absolutely sold on FlySimware now. I also got the MU-2 and I'm just as blown away. I freely admit how wrong I was in ignoring this dev. 

 

PS: I was very excited about the Air Net livery, and if anyone wanted to know, I had absolutely no issues slapping that paint job on the cargo model simply by changing the .cfg files to cargo and renaming. I looks great, and makes up for a lack of cargo liveries for this bird. :-)

 

Big thanks for that repaint.

 

Scott

[scottb613 1,188]

Hi Scott,

 

Glad you like it and your sentiments seem to echo that of everyone who has given this plane a real try... She's just a hoot to fly...

 

I picked up that Majestic Dash 8 for less than $50 over the holidays due to the repeated comments like "best plane EVER for FS" - but - I haven't even touched it - when I do get time to fly I'm always reaching for this bird - everything else is stagnating on my PC...

 

When I get some time - I'll renumber that AirNet scheme for one of their real cargo haulers... Al didn't create the panel indicator fix for the freighters - so I haven't even tried them as the faulty indicator would annoy me...

 

Last nights flight:

 

Latin VFR TJSJ San Juan Puerto Rico

to

Taxi2Gate TFFR Pointe-à-Pitre Guadeloupe

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

Scott

[ViperPilot 81]

Scott,

 

I would like that Climb/Cruise/Descent .pdf as well, if that's all right... it'll make a very good Worksheet to use while I'm learning how to Pilot these birds!

 

Alan  :smile:

[scottb613 1,188]

Hi Folks,

 

Posted the information in Bjoern's LJ35A Documents thread here in the Flysimware forum...

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/500935-learjet-35-reference-docs-charts-checklists/

 

Regards,
Scott