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Well since the question "my next sim" was posed, NO it is not until Austin can add viable ATC and AI traffic to adequately simulate a commercial airline environment.

 

Pretty to look at though.

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Well since the question "my next sim" was posed, NO it is not until Austin can add viable ATC and AI traffic to adequately simulate a commercial airline environment.

 

Pretty to look at though.

 

That's funny, you have 1545 posts but I never saw a post of you, in any forum, saying something positive. Being always grumpy is bad for your health, you know. :wink:

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to adequately simulate a commercial airline environment.

 

Do you have a template for this part which you just need to copy and paste into all of your X-Plane postings? ;-)

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to adequately simulate a commercial airline environment.

Out of the box commercial airliners environment is not simulated however the option of adding the static commercial airliners on gates is there.

A freeware ATC in alpha is available and allows you to add text to speech voices such as Ivona or windows TTS voices but do not interact with AI traffic add on such as world of traffic currently 2 voices and the author is working on multi voice support http://124thatc.matacchieri.eu/

World of traffic AI addon is able to simulate commercial traffic but do not interact with default ATC or the freeware ATC above, world of traffic requires lot of personal effort in installation and still not perfect but the developer is to release a v3.

Below is a screenshot at KSEA using World of traffic add on, spotting a take off of Fedex

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Well since the question "my next sim" was posed, NO it is not until Austin can add viable ATC and AI traffic to adequately simulate a commercial airline environment.

 

Pretty to look at though.

 

There are several ways to make this happen in XP.

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Fantastic video! I enjoy XP11 very much as well.

I find its look and performance remarkable for a beta release!

I am looking forward to the coming updates and addon releases!

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Well since the question "my next sim" was posed, NO it is not until Austin can add viable ATC and AI traffic to adequately simulate a commercial airline environment.

 

Pretty to look at though.

I will admit that AI traffic is a PITA in X-plane but there are a couple of commercial alternatives. As far as ATC, I don't know many people using the default ATC in either FSX or P3D. That's why there are so many third party ATC programs. Both Radar Contact and PF3 can be used with X-Plane along with Pilot2ATC which works very well with X-Plane 10.

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Well since the question "my next sim" was posed, NO it is not until Austin can add viable ATC and AI traffic to adequately simulate a commercial airline environment.

 

Pretty to look at though.

 

It's okay to not double post in the XPlane forum, really it is.  :t0152:

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As a P3D and former FSX user I have to say that XP11 looks most impressive!

 

I will be watching this one closely. I did try the XP10 demo but to be honest was a left a little flat with it. 

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I guess some people want something that even FSX or PR3D fabolous AI cannot do, that's it to interact with user's plane. Even AI planes in FSX cannot follow SID and STARS unless you install an over complicated plugin, see video for example 

 

While watching video I could not believe how unrealistic behave AI aircrafts in FSX and how bad textures look, after two years of XP10 it seems so basic I could not stand them anymore. Usually are the same textures but in XP10 they look much better.

 

In the beginning setting a decent AI movement for FSX was quite challenging, downloading WOAI package, setting timetables, only some years later auto installing packages came out. It's true that XP is in the beginning phase regarding AI and ATC but I'm confident they will come.

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Well since the question "my next sim" was posed, NO it is not until Austin can add viable ATC and AI traffic to adequately simulate a commercial airline environment.

 

Pretty to look at though.

If you want good traffic and ATC join VATSIM or IVAO... why use built in stuff when you can fly on a real network with real controllers and traffic... 

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Well since the question "my next sim" was posed, NO it is not until Austin can add viable ATC and AI traffic to adequately simulate a commercial airline environment.

 

Pretty to look at though.

I love X-Plane with its 64 bit environment  and looking forward to XP11. But let's not kid ourselves. The achilles heel for XPlane is that it does not have any comparable AI traffic program implementing real world schedules, air traffic with appropriate liveries and planes, like MyTraffic, Ultimate Traffic or even Traffic 360. This has been the state of affairs for several years and World Traffic is NOT a comparable solution at all.  Right now I use X-Life, purchased World Traffic and neither come close to MyTraffic or UT.The second weakness is seasonal textures.

 

I've tried the beta ATC for XP11 and it seems to have a number of good additions such as a one button access to all the frequencies, flight plan filing etc. In other words it seems to be a viable step up from the previous default incarnations but I don't think it's fully perfected plus I have the limited access beta so I can't really judge it fully. I have Pilot2ATC and X-Life deluxe for XP10 so there are existing 3rd party solutions. But if you take a great program like UT or MyTraffic and combine it with the default FSX/P3D ATC that is still miles ahead of XP10 or 11. And yes for commercial flying it's a bummer.

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I love X-Plane with its 64 bit environment and looking forward to XP11. But let's not kid ourselves. The achilles heel for XPlane is that it does not have any comparable AI traffic program implementing real world schedules, air traffic with appropriate liveries and planes, like MyTraffic, Ultimate Traffic or even Traffic 360. This has been the state of affairs for several years and World Traffic is NOT a comparable solution at all. Right now I use X-Life, purchased World Traffic and neither come close to MyTraffic or UT.The second weakness is seasonal textures.

 

I've tried the beta ATC for XP11 and it seems to have a number of good additions such as a one button access to all the frequencies, flight plan filing etc. In other words it seems to be a viable step up from the previous default incarnations but I don't think it's fully perfected plus I have the limited access beta so I can't really judge it fully. I have Pilot2ATC and X-Life deluxe for XP10 so there are existing 3rd party solutions. But if you take a great program like UT or MyTraffic and combine it with the default FSX/P3D ATC that is still miles ahead of XP10 or 11. And yes for commercial flying it's a bummer.

I fly both xp and p3d but when i moved to p3dv3 i had difficulties in finding a traffic add on with a p3d installer out of the box and my traffic professional addon which i bought previously for fsx was declared not compatible with p3d and discovered later that i was supposed to buy the same addons twice because of p3d license. All platforms have their pro and cons but any progress in development is good for us.

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Well since the question "my next sim" was posed, NO it is not until Austin can add viable ATC and AI traffic to adequately simulate a commercial airline environment.

 

Pretty to look at though.

We get it! You don't like XP. Do you have to tell us every time someone posts anything positive about XP? And the last time I checked P3D and FSX had awful AI and ATC. Is XP perfect? No but it's an awesome product the continually moves forward with Development. Not like a decade old title some people can't let go off.

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As a simmer who tried P3d , though in general it has lot of pros and high quality add ons but also it has few weaknesses in other areas like night lighting shimmers a lot and i could not fix it it, also night lights are baked within the texture in p3d and this is not real HDR and well it kills immersion when a plane landing light do not lit the object around it. AI traffic out of the box im not sure if anyone one use default ai traffic ... Also night lights do not have poles which could kill the immersion in VFR flying, road traffic is not usable and no real weather by default it was removed(though add ons offer the best in this area). Plus i have to keep my FSUIPC VAS counter in monitor and maybe there is more...but i wish P3D becomes 64 bit because its good for simmers in general and it has lot of potential ...But for now we are going to enjoy what we have since we already know no sim is perfect and xp11 seems to moved forward and is still in continuous development with new coding and graphics engine...and its 64 bit ... though it definitely has weakenesses in other areas, anyone can try the demo and if you dont like it simply dont use it and dont buy it ... my specs see signature

 

All default in the image below except reshade sweet fx in the first - European autogen

 

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Default MD 80 + chicago default scenery (maximum objects)

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And when i fly VFR i want to see roads and car traffic and light poles and road signs and trains ... (this is default scenery with maximum objects)
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And the below KSAN airport + city is freeware from http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/24953-ksan-san-diego-international/

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My settings

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If you want good traffic and ATC join VATSIM or IVAO... why use built in stuff when you can fly on a real network with real controllers and traffic... 

 

Yep or Pilot Edge which is extremely professional.

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Yep or Pilot Edge which is extremely professional.

 

Oh man, Pilot Edge will humble a "serious" simmer :)  Fantastic service.

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Why is almost everyone posting completely cloudless pics/videos of XP11?

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Well since the question "my next sim" was posed, NO it is not until Austin can add viable ATC and AI traffic to adequately simulate a commercial airline environment.

 

Pretty to look at though.

 

I just booted up XPX-11 with 10 AI C-172 and watch them land and take off with sound ! Seems ok to me ! Should be really cool once we start seeing more FMOD planes in the sim ! ATC needs some work but it will get addressed. But do you really need ATC, AI to shoot a instrument approach ? How many thousands of dollars have spent on PD3 + addons? Xplane is $59 and getting better by the day !

 

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Why is almost everyone posting completely cloudless pics/videos of XP11?

 

Because the clouds are heavy on frames and not that nice to look at. They were actually kind of nice in 10.0, go figure....

PD3 default clouds suck as well ! And that Blurry ORBX scenery as it loads is lovely !

 

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PD3 default clouds suck as well ! And that Blurry ORBX scenery as it loads is lovely !

 

He was just asking why everyone posting cloudless pics/videos and you want to drag P3D clouds and 'Blurry' ORBX scenery in ! Great!

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