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I do.

 

But you have already said you don't mind using other payment methods, that's fine, but why do you have such a issue with other folks deciding that they will not use anything other than paypal.

 

Personally I have my own opinions on your choice to use a CC on the internet but I am not that rude that I will express them here. do you have some kind of personal stake in ORBX that makes you so defensive ?

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Do any Flight Sim vendors use BitCoin ?  I personally don't use it....and honestly don't know how but this may be a way out for them because it gives the security, convenience and very low transaction cost.  Really good for people with no credit cards.  I don't know how those people in the Netherlands and Germany live without one....I charge absolutely everything and almost never have cash on me.  So common in North America.

Mark,

 

I've been wondering the same thing... how to use Bitcoin!

 

Say ORBX takes Bitcoin, and one of their Scenery Packages costs $50.00 USD.

 

The current exchange rate is roughly $781.50 USD to 1 Bitcoin... could you pay with fractions of a Bitcoin? For the $50 Purchase, it comes out to .064 Bitcoin!

 

How the hl do you split a Bitcoin into 781 pieces? :nea:

 

Oh well...

 

Alan  :smile:

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They may have a viable reason for this particular business decision but still I get the feeling that they are pushing their luck a bit too much. I remember their categoric no to making scenery for X-Plane over the years. Sounds a little silly nowadays. Just an example how quickly things move and how you can get caught by your own wrong assessments. 

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Then you have nothing to worry about.

Yes, it's a beautiful feeling I don't need their stuff anymore.  :wink: 

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If orbx say there are problems on their side with paypal then i take it at face value. who wants their income compromised, it is surely reasonable for orbx to safeguard theirs.

Valid points. As a business owner I'm not really interested in why Orbx has chosen this path (frankly, I'm ambivalent... their reasoning is theirs alone and they have a right to it). At the same time, the consumer has a right to safeguard their income from hackers who would try to steal info from an international trade.

 

Paypal is a quasi monopoly and if you ever run into difficulties with them good luck getting them sorted out. Especially when it concerns receiving money from them.

In an international transaction, where there are are often limited protections from hackers, I'll take having a quasi monopoly on my side rather than not having it at all.
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To be honest, i reckon they could require you to bend over and spread 'em every time you purchase some scenery and people would still defend it over there, its like a cult. Insane, and i will not be trusting some little company with my details, when even the big guys can get hacked.

 

Was there really any need for this Crude Outburst James ?  I see you have received 4 likes, I guess some folks love a Bandwagon to hope on :smile:  

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Valid points. As a business owner I'm not really interested in why Orbx has chosen this path (frankly, I'm ambivalent... their reasoning is theirs alone and they have a right to it). At the same time, the consumer has a right to safeguard their income from hackers who would try to steal info from an international trade.

 

In an international transaction, where there are are often limited protections from hackers, I'll take having a quasi monopoly on my side rather than not having it at all.

 

May want to reconsider that. Because Paypal is one of the easiest ways to get your information hacked. 

 

http://bgr.com/2016/01/04/paypal-account-security-hackers/

 

As far as I know. ORBX keep your CC information. Infact I just bought Catalina today and I know I had to re-enter my CC info. Likely, the information is on a single transaction basis. So unless you have a seriously infected computer, your information passes straight through without anyone holding your billing details. That is far safer than PayPal who houses, localizes, and maintains everything from your CC number to your banking information. That is far more concerning to me than single transaction information being passed. 

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These guys at Orbx are really loosing it. First, they spy out everyone's PC with their new versions of FTX Central and now this. They really think they are the middle of the flightsim universe. It's about time to teach them a lesson by not buying their products anymore. I'm really fed up by their attitude.

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You might notice JV hasn't put his head up in this debate yet. I wonder why? but leaves the heat

to an underling. Not like him if his previous antics are a measure of the man!.

 

I cannot believe that Orbx (with their business acumen?) could not envisaged a problem with PayPal.

 

Was never a problem when business with PayPal was conducted through FlightsimStore. I would assume

that volume of sales of Orbx products would have been similar in comparison with Orbx Direct.

 

The whole concept of Orbx Direct and it's day to day functions and the problems it has generated does

not augur well for the future. The business environment is littered with disasters with companies that

have demonstrated similar traits to what we have seen from Orbx during the last few months.

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With thousands invested in ORBX products over the years, I just hope to continue to use them and enjoy what I paid for, in peace without trauma, drama and belligerence. :drinks:

 

Don't know what is wrong that there would be such turmoil and commotion from their visible ops. I REALLY want them to continue to succeed and hope they find a way to reconcile their differences with PayPal, and the ORBX customer base.

 

I concur with many that I am not inclined to use my credit card for online purchases., so for me, the buck(s) quite likely stops here. For a lot of people it seems to be a firm "PayPal or bust" so I sure hope things stabilize over there soon.

 

Kindest regards and warmest Season's Greetings

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I am still likeing P3D because of PMDG and ORBX, but less and less for the ORBX, I must get LOWI when introduced, but I think I am finished showcasing certain products in videos is finished for me, there is not oone ounce of HUMBLENESS to be seen at anytime, ever.

 

Common courtesy beyond in the military is something remembered, not seen anymore, except for a few places.

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These guys at Orbx are really loosing it. First, they spy out everyone's PC with their new versions of FTX Central and now this. They really think they are the middle of the flightsim universe. It's about time to teach them a lesson by not buying their products anymore. I'm really fed up by their attitude.

Wow, just wow.  I may have not always agreed with your stances and opinions, but you take the gold award for that statement, and I am not being sarcastic either.

May want to reconsider that. Because Paypal is one of the easiest ways to get your information hacked. 

 

http://bgr.com/2016/01/04/paypal-account-security-hackers/

 

As far as I know. ORBX doesnt house your CC information. I have to re-enter it every time I purchase something. Likely, the information is on a single transaction basis. So unless you have a seriously infected computer, your information passes straight through without anyone holding your billing details. That is far safer than PayPal who houses, localizes, and maintains everything from your CC number to your banking information. That is far more concerning to me than single transaction information being passed. 

If you read the end of the article you cited, then you would see there was more to the story than what you pointed out.

 

Don't forget that Paypal is a bank.  :smile:

 

I have personally had good experiences with Paypal.  They saved my behind when I had TWO credit cards stolen and that says a lot.  They called me back to keep me informed, sent me letters in the mail to confirm everything that happened.  I put more stock in a financial entity over someone who claims they don't have your info and we have to take their word for it.

 

It's bad enough that we have Big Brother watching us at any time online, I really didn't expect it to spill over to a flight simulator.

 

Oh well, there is always X-Plane.  :P

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Was there really any need for this Crude Outburst James ?  I see you have received 4 likes, I guess some folks love a Bandwagon to hope on :smile:  

yeah saw your post on the thread in the orbx forum, guess you wont find it appropriate if you "Don't see what the issue is"

 

p.s. seems its 8 'likes'

p.p.s They locked the thread, whoda thunk it!

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https://www.google.ca/amp/bgr.com/2016/01/04/paypal-account-security-hackers/amp/

 

Might be worth a read for those who think PayPal is the be all end all.

I'm also a PayPal user, but don't give a rats &@($* if ORBX don't use it, I'm still adding ORBX products to my collection with or without PayPal.

 

I do feel bad for those who for some reason or another don't have any other options but I do suspect this will be resolved eventually

 

Cheers

Greg Z

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This is yet another event/topic that showcases what happens in this community when, time after time, there is too little drama with which we can occupy ourselves with off of the "flight line."

 

And since when does PayPal have so many diehard supporters? There are other circles where they are despised (I'll keep that can of worms shut). In this day and age, put something on your debit or credit card and if you check your statement or transactions and see something wrong, simply call, email, twatter, etc. the card issuer and request a charge-back or tell them there's fraudulent activity on the account. I remember when only CCs did that but now every run-of-the-mill bank debit card provides that sort of protection as well.

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This is yet another event/topic that showcases what happens in this community when, time after time, there is too little drama with which we can occupy ourselves with off of the "flight line."

 

And since when does PayPal have so many diehard supporters? There are other circles where they are despised (I'll keep that can of worms shut). In this day and age, put something on your debit or credit card and if you check your statement or transactions and see something wrong, simply call, email, twatter, etc. the card issuer and request a charge-back or tell them there's fraudulent activity on the account. I remember when only CCs did that but now every run-of-the-mill bank debit card provides that sort of protection as well.

 

PayPal is simply an extra layer of protection from said bank cards.  It's quite simple.

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p.s. seems its 8 'likes'

 

I see you clicked into your profile there,  Was this to check how many likes you got for that "Click bait" statement you made ?  Awwww so Cute :wub:   :smile:   For future reference you can just hoover your mouse over your Profile name to see your profile Information  ( just like i did when i seen you in your profile)   

 

*Edit*

 

I see your back on the Thread again and typing furiously :) 

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I see you clicked into your profile there,  Was this to check how many likes you got for that "Click bait" statement you made ?  Awwww so Cute :wub:   :smile:   For future reference you can just hoover your mouse over your Profile name to see your profile Information  ( just like i did when i seen you in your profile)   

yes indeed! how nice of you to let me know thank you xx

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I see you clicked into your profile there,  Was this to check how many likes you got for that "Click bait" statement you made ?  Awwww so Cute :wub:   :smile:   For future reference you can just hoover your mouse over your Profile name to see your profile Information  ( just like i did when i seen you in your profile)   

 

And Elaine, are you any better for harassing said poster?

 

EDIT: Maybe you weren't lol, been a fast moving thread watching 2 sites ha.... I totally apologize if appropriate!

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And Elaine, are you any better for harassing said poster?

its fine, i can take it :) i merely posted my opinion earlier. nothing more, nothing less

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And Elaine, are you any better for harassing said poster?

 

EDIT: Maybe you weren't lol, been a fast moving thread watching 2 sites ha.... I totally apologize if appropriate!

 

yes indeed! how nice of you to let me know thank you xx

 

Lol  Very good.  Good banter.   Now boys,  You's have nice likey Night  :smile:

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No paypal?!?! What a stupid move! You're cornering yourself by that.

"PayPal are not satisfying our requirements". One year from this decision and we're gonna see Orbx again using paypal due to the lack of sales. And a lot of us, use credit cards inside paypal as a security measure.

 

Cheers

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OK, this has gone well past any kind of meaningful civil exchange of opinion.  Locked.

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