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ortho4xp: no autogen and roads

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I just made my first two ortho4xp tiles to cover Pittsburgh area at ZL19 (yes I was greedy and ended up downloading 120GB sth in total).

 

The photo images were drop dead gorgeous in XP11. However, I got absolutely no autogens and roads. I did get buildings on airports and custom buildings by a freeware Pittsburgh scenery. I made sure the tiles were at the bottom of package.ini list. 

 

What I did in Ortho4xp (v120) was pretty simple. I didn't change anything since I knew very little. I just clicked the "Earth Tile Map"  at the very top of main window and it opened a "Tile Collection" map view. I clicked two tiles covering Pittsburgh and hit the "Batch Build" and that is it. 

 

Could it be that I somehow didn't get the OSM data into the tiles? I checked OSM maps and there are some data around Pittsburgh area so if OSM works I assume that I should at least see some roads and autogen buildings on the ground?

 

Again, the photographic textures are extremely beautiful. Jaw dropping quality. I just want to add those autogens and roads back.

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You have to use the overlay function in Ortho4XP for roads and autogen and set  the directory to your global scenery folder. Or you can use a W2XP overlay or something.

And then put the overlay file in your custom scenery folder

 

Marcel

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Thanks a lot for the tips. How to do build the overlay file? Do I have to download the those photo images again? I really hope not. I feel guilty to waste Bing another 120GB bandwidth. 

 

Sorry for these naive questions. Really new to this ortho4xp thing. 

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Have a look at the main screen. At the bottom left there is the option build overlays. Just point it to main XP11 Global scenery directory and choose the proper tile on top of the menus. It will then build the overlay of the stock XP11 data.

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Just to confirm it works. The only problem is that XP11 is having a hard time to handle so much autogens plus high resolution texture due to 12GB RAM/4GB VRAM limit on my PC.

 

So far I'm so impressed by XP11. More than halfway to a sim paradise..

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Sorry to hijack this topic but I'm having this issue also. Contrary to Yang, I do not get it to work. Only satelite image and mesh is showing up. No roads, cars, houses, trees,...

 

Build the entire island of Corsica (5 tiles) with the following settings (step 1; 2; 2.5; 3 and then build overlay):

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This is my scenery pack:

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And this is how it looks like in the sim:

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I don't see the overlay in your scenery.cfg. Without it, there won't be any stock OSM data. 

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Copy the yOrtho4XP_Overlays folder from the Ortho4XP folder to your custom scenery folder and place it above the zOrtho[...] files in the scenery_packs.ini.

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Or better, make that a link, and keep the original in the Ortho4XP folder, then if you make changes with Ortho4XP, it shows up immediately in the SIM.

 

I did the same with the zOrtho4XP_xxx directories.

 

There are already several threads dealing with how to create simbolic links.

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You don't even need bother with creating symbolic links if you are not comfortable doing that. Just drag a shortcut of the scenery folder to your X-Plane custom scenery folder.

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I was unaware that the OSM data was stored separatly from the ortho photoreal tiles. It was my understanding that OSM data was provided inside the tile folder. Thanks for the quick responses.

 

I made a symbolic link, fired up X-Plane and now I need a new videocard... lol

 

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I was also confused as to why I didn't get any roads, cars, autogen on top of my photoscenery created with Ortho4XP. Even though I did do the last step which is the overlay. Where is that file or folder located? Is it outside of the tiles folder? So if I do the last step which is build the overlay, it will use the default road, autogen from XP11 right? Usually how big is the overlay folder thats created by Ortho4XP? Currently I am using the one from simheaven w2xpane net file which is about 1.5GB, but I think that covers all of America. I'm assuming the one created by Ortho4XP would be much smaller since you're working on 1 tile.

 

Flyce, can you please post pics of ZL19 photo scenery, whats the highest you can go regarding ZL?

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The overlay folder is small, it just uses the default dsf files. It is put into a folder called yOrtho4XP_Overlays. With that y prefix it's automatically put in the right position in the scenery.cfg.


ZL19 is bit of an overkill though  :nea:

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So if I do the last step which is build the overlay, it will use the default road, autogen from XP11 right?

Yes :)

 

Where is that file or folder located?

Here:

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I was unaware that the OSM data was stored separatly from the ortho photoreal tiles. It was my understanding that OSM data was provided inside the tile folder. Thanks for the quick responses.

 

I made a symbolic link, fired up X-Plane and now I need a new videocard... lol

 

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yeah, that's why I ordered Titan X pascal...  XP11 with high resolution scenery uses so much VRAM, eats my GTX980 for lunch everytime if I set things to high/max... 

I was also confused as to why I didn't get any roads, cars, autogen on top of my photoscenery created with Ortho4XP. Even though I did do the last step which is the overlay. Where is that file or folder located? Is it outside of the tiles folder? So if I do the last step which is build the overlay, it will use the default road, autogen from XP11 right? Usually how big is the overlay folder thats created by Ortho4XP? Currently I am using the one from simheaven w2xpane net file which is about 1.5GB, but I think that covers all of America. I'm assuming the one created by Ortho4XP would be much smaller since you're working on 1 tile.

 

Flyce, can you please post pics of ZL19 photo scenery, whats the highest you can go regarding ZL?

 

Just as Vital showed, you need to find the yOrtho4XP_Overlays folder and copy it (or it's shortcut) to Custom Scenery. That's it. 

 

Sorry I still haven't figured out how to upload images to Avsim post. Anyway, ZL19 is the highest you can go and the results are just about incredible in XP11. Basically it's payware quality with super high resolution texture plus all the roads and autogens. In FSX/P3D one probably has to pay $10 per tile like this!

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Waking this old thread up since I just started using Ortho4XP myself and have a related question.

I just realized I forgot to check the custom overlay dir checkbox in Ortho4XP and have been building lots of tiles in batch mode. I did check the option in the batch screen to build overlays (or at least so I think...) but without having pointed out ...\X-Plane 11\Global Scenery\X-Plane 11 Global Scenery on the main screen under the Custom overlay dir option I'm not sure what happens?

Is it somehow possible to add the missing overlays in batch mode or do I need to manually select each and every one of the tiles I already built and then click the Build overlay button on the main Ortho4XP screen?

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2 hours ago, WebMaximus said:

Waking this old thread up since I just started using Ortho4XP myself and have a related question.

I just realized I forgot to check the custom overlay dir checkbox in Ortho4XP and have been building lots of tiles in batch mode. I did check the option in the batch screen to build overlays (or at least so I think...) but without having pointed out ...\X-Plane 11\Global Scenery\X-Plane 11 Global Scenery on the main screen under the Custom overlay dir option I'm not sure what happens?

Is it somehow possible to add the missing overlays in batch mode or do I need to manually select each and every one of the tiles I already built and then click the Build overlay button on the main Ortho4XP screen?

 

I am not an experienced ortho4xp user at all, others may come up with a better solution. What i did when this happen to me, was to reselect all the tiles on the map, set all checkbox again on the map and on the main screen and did the whole process again by clicking "batch process"

 

Just the same as if you were starting from scratch. It will not download again, it will just create the overlays missing. Takes a minute or two per tile, quite fast.

 

Just make sure you did not remove the tiles from the tiles directory, or place them back, for the app to know they are already there.

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Thanks Manuel but I actually ended up doing it manually while waiting for an answer and it was a rather quick process since it only took about 5-10 seconds per tile and I was able to quickly swap between the main window and the tile selection window using ALT+TAB.

Thanks anyway :smile:

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On 12/18/2016 at 2:00 PM, Glenn_C said:

You don't even need bother with creating symbolic links if you are not comfortable doing that. Just drag a shortcut of the scenery folder to your X-Plane custom scenery folder.

... do you need to create a shortcut for every Tile Folder or only for the  "Tile" Folder that is in the Ortho4XP route directory  ????

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6 hours ago, N1125Y said:

... do you need to create a shortcut for every Tile Folder or only for the  "Tile" Folder that is in the Ortho4XP route directory  ????

You need to create a shortcut link for every tile that has been created WITHIN your Ortho4XP TILE FOLDER...and then transfer them all into your Custom Scenery Folder.

Anytime I create a new batch of tiles...doing Ireland right now, in fact...as I type...my M.O. is to create short cuts of all the tiles, in my Tile Folder, then  COPY them into my XP11 Custom Scenery Folder, and then, after a successful copy of them all, I carefully highlight all my short cuts in my Tile Folder, and then delete them. After that, I run XP11 once....come to the flight screen, end the session, bring up my Scenery.cfg file and take the new Ortho4XP tiles at the top, down below my Ortho4XP_Overlay shortcut.  Press SAVE, and then take a flight over my newly generated whatever....

 

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3 hours ago, Sesquashtoo said:

You need to create a shortcut link for every tile that has been created WITHIN your Ortho4XP TILE FOLDER...and then transfer them all into your Custom Scenery Folder.

Anytime I create a new batch of tiles...doing Ireland right now, in fact...as I type...my M.O. is to create short cuts of all the tiles, in my Tile Folder, then  COPY them into my XP11 Custom Scenery Folder, and then, after a successful copy of them all, I carefully highlight all my short cuts in my Tile Folder, and then delete them. After that, I run XP11 once....come to the flight screen, end the session, bring up my Scenery.cfg file and take the new Ortho4XP tiles at the top, down below my Ortho4XP_Overlay shortcut.  Press SAVE, and then take a flight over my newly generated whatever....

 

..make sense .....perfect. tnx you so much.

Now, since you already helped me, I 'll take the opportunity to ask another question:

On the Map with the Collection of the Tiles, do you need to delete the tiles you done with before starting with new ones ??

 

Reg.

 

Yair

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19 minutes ago, N1125Y said:

..make sense .....perfect. tnx you so much.

Now, since you already helped me, I 'll take the opportunity to ask another question:

On the Map with the Collection of the Tiles, do you need to delete the tiles you done with before starting with new ones ??

 

Reg.

 

Yair

You never delete the tiles on the World Map...because they are indicative of exactly WHAT you have created within your TILES FOLDER.   You only delete the SHORTCUTS you make, after you transfer those shortcuts (copy them over...) to your XP11 Custom Scenery Folder.  You only keep adding to your 'collection' of what will BE your tiles as they show up on the World Map page.  

Hope this helps.   The only deletion ever, is if you want to delete a tile you have generated. Then you do so.  If not any of them...you delete nothing on the Map Page, for that will delete that tile folder within the Tile Folder itself.

Post Edit: If you have limited storage space, and are not into creating a 'collection' of favorite fly-over's, but merely wish TO fly over any place of new interest, then yes...you would DELETE your already explored tiles, on your MAP PAGE, and then create however many new tiles that are limited only by your storage medium.  When those are explored....delete, and move on...by creating more, ad nasuem. :)

 

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7 hours ago, Sesquashtoo said:

You never delete the tiles on the World Map...because they are indicative of exactly WHAT you have created within your TILES FOLDER.   You only delete the SHORTCUTS you make, after you transfer those shortcuts (copy them over...) to your XP11 Custom Scenery Folder.  You only keep adding to your 'collection' of what will BE your tiles as they show up on the World Map page.  

Hope this helps.   The only deletion ever, is if you want to delete a tile you have generated. Then you do so.  If not any of them...you delete nothing on the Map Page, for that will delete that tile folder within the Tile Folder itself.

Post Edit: If you have limited storage space, and are not into creating a 'collection' of favorite fly-over's, but merely wish TO fly over any place of new interest, then yes...you would DELETE your already explored tiles, on your MAP PAGE, and then create however many new tiles that are limited only by your storage medium.  When those are explored....delete, and move on...by creating more, ad nasuem. :)

 

..so I need to leave the tiles on the Tiles collection map & just add new Tiles & Ortho Generator will do those that I added ...

Good me cappish :-)

 

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10 hours ago, N1125Y said:

..so I need to leave the tiles on the Tiles collection map & just add new Tiles & Ortho Generator will do those that I added ...

Good me cappish :-)

 

Yes...in that way, you are building up your own unique 'ortho-seeded' flying environment.  If you find you are not flying over a particular tile, in over perhaps two months,...that might be indicative, that your interest has waned in that tile...therefore delete, and create another on that resource 'footprint'.

For instance, I created four tiles around County Cork, Ireland, yesterday morning, to compliment my having installed EICK from the .org, ....and having spent around four hours enjoying the flight experience last night, am about to delete them, as I know I don't normally fly within Great Britain. Had fun, now time to  use that hard-drive resource for some interest in the country of; Hungary. :)   

I can generate about 3 tiles per hour ( around 20 minutes each)  at zl17/19/2, so find this 'fish n' release' method a good ortho ploy, for stuff that has my transient-held interest.  Yep...fly, and release....LOL!. :)

I just started a Netherlands capture of 6 tiles for later on today....have never flown there, even without Ortho....looking forward to it!:

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Honestly, if you have not revisited a flight plan, or area for 60 days....well....it's just hoggin' your GB's.... LOL.

Cheers,

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Mitch

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