Approaches confusion

[Johan_Dees 84]

Calling Edetroit...

 

Im looking to EGSS, but cannot understand if this is wrong or not ? See picture (clickable)

It looks like the LOREL approach is not correct in FS9, same for ABBOT for rwy 23.

Or do I miss something here ?

 

 

[edetroit 933]

 

 

Or do I miss something here ?

 

Nope.....obviously not written using ADE.  Have a read of this post at UK2000.

 

http://www.uk2000scenery.org/forum/index.php?topic=8446.0

[Johan_Dees 84]

Thanks ED, trying out now my modifcations.. removed some legs.

[vololiberista 205]

If you have problems with incorrect  or missing fixes in FS9 try Facility Editor

http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=facility+&CatID=fs2004util&Go=Search

[Johan_Dees 84]

I believe I can add them with ADE ? Ed ?

[edetroit 933]

I believe I can add them with ADE ? Ed ?

 

 

Yes, better to add them with ADE. 

[vololiberista 205]

ADE will only change fixes at airports. Facility Editor will change them anywhere.

[Johan_Dees 84]

@volo, thanks food to know!.

 

@Ed, when I compile a changed approach, and open the resulting bgl, all approaches result in a big mess.. whats going on ?

Do I need to change a setting somewhere ?

 

nevermind..

Do not load your airport back into ADE from the Bgl file. This is the way it is done in AFCAD and AFX but not in ADE. If you do this in ADE you are almost certain to lose things. You must always load your airport again from the ADE project file. It has a .ad2 extension. We can guarantee you will have problems if you do it any other way

[edetroit 933]

ADE will only change fixes at airports. Facility Editor will change them anywhere.

 

 

Title of post "Approaches confusion"

 

Approaches are for airports.

 

ADE is what is needed for the job.

[vololiberista 205]

Approaches are for airports.

 

 

Are they really? Gosh!

[Johan_Dees 84]

Ok Ed, works well.

Do AI follow these procedures also ? or do they always make a straight in approach ?

 

And another question, can a leg being inserted, or is it always at the end of the existing list ?

[vololiberista 205]

You need AI controller if you want AI to follow procedures.

[edetroit 933]

 

Do AI follow these procedures also ? or do they always make a straight in approach ?

 

As far as I know they will fly the ILS approach but not the full STAR 

 

I have not written a curved approach like the Kai Tak IGS rwy 13 approach but Jim Vile has.....which AI will fly.

 

You can even write a LPMA rwy 05 approach, as long as the AI fly really well they could make it.

 

What I mean is if you think outside the box and manipulate the approaches to suit you and not just copy the jepp chart

 

you can get AI to do more than you think. 

 

I write approaches more for FSATC than AI so I have not experimented enough with AI.

 

 

 

And another question, can a leg being inserted, or is it always at the end of the existing list ?

 

Unfortunately at the end of the existing list.

 

 

You need AI controller if you want AI to follow procedures.

 

 

This is a FS9 forum not FSX ....AI controller is for FSX.

[Johan_Dees 84]

Thanks Ed, discovered in the manual that U and D allow to change the order of a certain leg. Cheers.

[edetroit 933]

 

 

discovered in the manual that U and D allow to change the order of a certain leg

 

Excellent!