RXP GNS V2 and GTN database update

[rodbittar 2]

3 hours ago, markyharris said:

As long as you have a subscription at fly.garmin.com to download and program the data cards in a real GNS 430/530 used in an actual plane, you can extract the data and use it in your simulator. If this is the case, feel free to PM me and I may be able to direct you.

Mark

Thanks for your support but I don't have a subscription for the real GNS 430/530. I'm just a simmer who wants to simulate as real as possible and can't afford such an expensive subscription.

[JimK 1]

On 3/19/2018 at 8:08 PM, markyharris said:

As long as you have a subscription at fly.garmin.com to download and program the data cards in a real GNS 430/530 used in an actual plane, you can extract the data and use it in your simulator. If this is the case, feel free to PM me and I may be able to direct you.

Mark

I have a subscription with Jeppesen to update my data cards for my 430W.  I haven't used fly.garmin to update, but  assume it works the same as the Jepp subscription.  The Jepp software programs the card directly.  The 430/530 cards are not readable directly by a computer.  Can anyone explain to me how someone that has a legitimate subscription to update a 430/530 can update the database?  It seriously limits the use of this software when the navdata is out of date.  

Thank you! 

[Bert Pieke 7,584]

Suggest you PM Mark for instructions, as offered..

You are unlikely to get a detailed explanation on this forum because of copyright concerns..

Edited March 24, 2018 by Bert Pieke

[Simpilot2584 0]

Can somebody please explain to me how to update the gns430 navdata for fsx. My database is from 2007 or something, and per this forum, I've downloaded the Garmin Trainer, but I have not idea what I am doing. Help please!!!

[vprit 1]

Once I obtain my own .bin file what file and file location do I replace it in Windows to get Reality XP have the current database?

[RXP 2,336]

@vprit User's Manual p13

[crashmax 1]

Just purchased 430 & 530 for XP 11. 

Is it only possible to update DB via active garmin subscription? As a student PPL Pilot I'm willing to buy it, but I have no real garmin device, therefore I cannot register one to buy subscription.

[RXP 2,336]

@crashmax Hi, I think there are suggestions in this discussion 50+ messages. Some users are generously offering to be contacted by PM for example.

Edited November 27, 2018 by RXP

[velez66 2]

So ☹️ there is still no solution available to update the database on the 530 W?

[Bert Pieke 7,584]

1 hour ago, velez66 said:

So ☹️ there is still no solution available to update the database on the 530 W?

It has been said before.. but let me repeat it..

A real world GNS database can be used to update the Garmin GNS Trainer.

If you own a real GNS, or know a pilot who does, you may have access to a current, or a discarded expired copy that can be used.

The most popular Worldwide (WW) database which still includes small airports is the 1513 dataset.

Early in 2016, Garmin changed the packaging of the navdata, and removed small airports from the WW navdata.

If you only fly in a single region, however, you may be able to find a regional database copy with 2018 data.

OR, if you do not need small airports, look for a newer WW dataset.

If you are looking to simply upgrade to 1513 WW data for flightsimming, you can contact me via PM with your email address.

If you require more recent data, look around and see if you can find some expired data that meets your needs..

 

[velez66 2]

Thanks Bert

My apologies if the question was answered at other threads. I just wanted to get a better idea of what is required or updated information. I appreciate immensely your response. 

Thanks

Hector

[IFRguy 18]

  I recently purchased the RXP 530W sim and was hoping for a newer database- no such luck. I have a Jeppesen sub but didn't know how to get that info into the Garmin GNS Trainer and thence into the RXP sim. But, I figured it out!

  Herewith a method for updating the database, PROVIDED you can get a copy of the Jeppesen NavData update file. It's possible you need the Waas version; that's all I have.

1. Using Jepp's JDM, choose to download the file, i.e. don't do a "Transfer to Device". It will place a file into e.g. c:\ProgramData\Jeppesen\jdm\.jsum\download\dXXXX.bin. The cycle # (current=1813) will be in the name.
   
   Some people think this file is mysterious: it's not. It's a disk image in the old DOS FAT16 format. All you need is a program to transfer the .bin file to a USB drive and you can read its contents directly, at least on a Windows PC. I used Win32DiskImager, which you can find on SourceForge.
    
2. Now get a USB drive with contents you don't care about (it will be erased).
    
3. Run Win32DiskImager, then browse to find the file listed in 1). Make sure the output drive is the USB you plan to erase. Press the "Write". button.
    
4. Look at the contents of the drive you just imaged. It has a file named avtn_db.bin. That's your new "worldwide.bin" file.
    
5. Rename your old worldwide.bin file(s). It's in the Garmin Trainer folder(s). You may have more than one Trainer install: I did.
    
6. Copy avtn_db.bin to wherever you find a Trainer install w/a worldwide.bin file and change the name to worldwide.bin.
    
7. You're done!
    

  I had hoped I could get a Navigraph sub and convert it to a new worldwide.bin file. No such luck. Ditto using some of the public nav files that update other parts of fsx and p3d sims, but the RXP sim needs the Garmin Trainer with its proprietary file format. I own a plane w/a GNS530W but my home base airport RNAV TPs are newer than 2009 and so I couldn't  "fly" it to practice during the winter months. The only thing I've noticed that's missing is the glideslope "guidance" I get shooting a non-precision approach. That's a handy feature but I can live w/o it.

  Anyway, I hope some people find this useful. I wish I could just share the updated file but I can't, so please don't ask me. There should be nothing in the above that's much of a secret. I wish Garmin would just publish a newer worldwide.bin but I'm sure they are busy selling GTNs and don't care. For the folks that have Jepp subs, this will get you current.

  Caveat: The above assumes you have enough PC knowledge to find files and use disk imagers. I cannot be responsible if you shoot yourself in the virtual foot.

Cheers,

IFRGuy

Edited December 13, 2018 by RXP

[markyharris 6]

Great info, thanks for sharing the steps.

Mark

[IFRguy 18]

  For people w/o real planes or GPSes, I can say that Jepp doesn't ask for a GPS serial #, they want a tail # and whether the unit is WAAS. I believe the one-time Navdata purchase is about $100. You don't need any hardware beyond a USB stick.

  I suppose the easy solution is to use the GTN sim, but I wanted the 530W because that is what I have and use for IFR flying. The WAAS unit gets you the ability to do precision (LPV) approaches and the real 530W provides glidepath guidance in NP RNAV approaches as well. I live in a mountainous area and that plus the terrain info helps a lot.

[Jeff32 0]

Hello all, Ive been doing a lot of research on a way to update the nav data on the gns 530. Looks like the best way is to find the .bin file from the 1513 cycle. Have tried every other way I found online and checked with all my friends to see if anyone had a version of the trainer with the right data in it with no luck. If anyone out there could point me towards that file I would greatly appreciate it .Im just a flight sim pilot so no access to any real garmin updates. Thank you