Can't get HD mesh to work

[Paraffin 2,197]

 

Flightskyc i have tried alot (2 videos.. 1 forum post, re-did the instructions like 5 times now i think), what i can tell you is that the game loads without errors (according to logs). I have tried many different regions and confirmed that the mesh i have installed is in that region. I have also confirmed that there actually is not any HD mesh even it loads in (two of the exact same textures next to each other, plus i know how my home town looks from above ).

 

Looking at your hometown probably isn't a good way to judge whether HD mesh is loaded, since the main differences are seen outside of urbanized areas. It has nothing to do with the OSM street or building overlays.

 

Try flying over a coastline or mountain range, and see if the resolution looks better.

[hjsmuc 393]

Ok, did as the instructions say and it loaded as expected:

 

0:01:29.539 I/SCN: DSF load time: 11496215 for file Custom Scenery/zz__HD_Mesh_V3_+50-130/Earth nav data/+50-120/+54-114.dsf (1161158 tris)

0:01:29.539 I/SCN: DSF load time: 11685891 for file Custom Scenery/zz__HD_Mesh_V3_+50-130/Earth nav data/+50-120/+54-116.dsf (1181029 tris)

0:01:29.539 I/SCN: DSF load time: 11820408 for file Custom Scenery/zz__HD_Mesh_V3_+50-130/Earth nav data/+50-120/+52-116.dsf (1366305 tris)

0:01:29.539 I/SCN: DSF load time: 7840794 for file Custom Scenery/zz__HD_Mesh_V3_+50-130/Earth nav data/+50-120/+52-113.dsf (1152653 tris)

0:01:29.539 I/SCN: DSF load time: 9757283 for file Custom Scenery/zz__HD_Mesh_V3_+50-130/Earth nav data/+50-120/+54-113.dsf (1136154 tris)

0:01:29.539 I/SCN: DSF load time: 9675324 for file Custom Scenery/zz__HD_Mesh_V3_+50-130/Earth nav data/+50-120/+52-115.dsf (1153377 tris)

0:01:29.539 I/SCN: DSF load time: 9798514 for file Custom Scenery/zz__HD_Mesh_V3_+50-130/Earth nav data/+50-120/+54-115.dsf (1166919 tris)

0:01:29.539 I/SCN: DSF load time: 7391270 for file Custom Scenery/zz__HD_Mesh_V3_+50-130/Earth nav data/+50-120/+53-113.dsf (1134441 tris)

0:01:29.539 I/SCN: DSF load time: 855809 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50-120/+53-114.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:29.539 I/SCN: DSF load time: 8921247 for file Custom Scenery/zz__HD_Mesh_V3_+50-130/Earth nav data/+50-120/+53-116.dsf (1167837 tris)

0:01:29.539 I/SCN: DSF load time: 7755843 for file Custom Scenery/zz__HD_Mesh_V3_+50-130/Earth nav data/+50-120/+53-114.dsf (1205877 tris)

0:01:29.539 I/SCN: DSF load time: 8186 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50-120/+53-115.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:29.539 I/SCN: DSF load time: 8789928 for file Custom Scenery/zz__HD_Mesh_V3_+50-130/Earth nav data/+50-120/+53-115.dsf (1139938 tris)

[flightskyc 257]

I haven't used X-plane for a while, but I just installed the mesh into my XP11 instance and it works straight away. I can also see the dsf files being loaded in the log file, similar to hjsmuc.

 

This is my ordering for XP11 and the mesh loads absolutely fine.

 

 

I

1000 Version

SCENERY

 

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/LOWS W.A.Mozart 1.2/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/EGKK tdg no static/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/ENBR tdg/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EBBR Brussels/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EDDF Frankfurt/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EDLP Paderborn-Lippstadt/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EGBB Birmingham/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EGKK London-Gatwick/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EGLL Heathrow/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EGPF Glasgow/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EGSS London-Stansted/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LEBL Barcelona/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LEMD Madrid/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFMN Nice Cote d Azur X/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFPG Paris CDG/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFPO Paris Orly/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LPFR Faro/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LSGG Genf/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Global Airports/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/3D_people_library/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/BS2001 Object Library/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/gt_library/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/MisterX_Library/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/RE_Library/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/THE-FRUIT-STAND Aircraft Library v3.0/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/The_Handy_Objects_Library/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/ff_library/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/flags_of_the_world/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/OpenSceneryX/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/R2_Library/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/ruscenery/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KSEA Demo Area/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/LOWI Demo Area/

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zzz_hd_global_scenery3/

[Torx0148 4]

It annoys because it also says it has loaded in, i am sure it is not there. I tried flying in FL500, i can clearly see the same textures in different locations. Mostly fields etc. I am not talking about the road grid either..

 

here you go with my log:

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 407269 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50+010/+56+011.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 1520017 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50+010/+54+013.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 1523526 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50+010/+54+011.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 2295681 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50+010/+56+013.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 3121541 for file Custom Scenery/w2xp_Europe/Earth nav data/+50+010/+56+011.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 4600817 for file Custom Scenery/w2xp_Europe/Earth nav data/+50+010/+56+013.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 6740071 for file Custom Scenery/w2xp_Europe/Earth nav data/+50+010/+54+011.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 6966277 for file Custom Scenery/w2xp_Europe/Earth nav data/+50+010/+54+013.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 7865211 for file Custom Scenery/hd_global_scenery3/Earth nav data/+50+010/+56+011.dsf (9029 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 6065360 for file Custom Scenery/hd_global_scenery3/Earth nav data/+50+010/+54+011.dsf (468898 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 6348204 for file Custom Scenery/hd_global_scenery3/Earth nav data/+50+010/+54+013.dsf (436987 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 38333 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+011.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 332850 for file Custom Scenery/w2xp_Europe/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+011.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 107182 for file Custom Scenery/w2xp_Europe/Earth nav data/+50+010/+54+014.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 806027 for file Custom Scenery/hd_global_scenery3/Earth nav data/+50+010/+54+014.dsf (24081 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 13529878 for file Custom Scenery/hd_global_scenery3/Earth nav data/+50+010/+56+013.dsf (1093028 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 6416948 for file Custom Scenery/hd_global_scenery3/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+011.dsf (797085 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 579249 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+013.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 1949731 for file Custom Scenery/w2xp_Europe/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+013.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 6661354 for file Custom Scenery/hd_global_scenery3/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+013.dsf (806039 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 324344 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+014.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 324599 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50+010/+54+012.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 687730 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50+010/+56+012.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 499956 for file Custom Scenery/w2xp_Europe/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+014.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 1232910 for file Custom Scenery/w2xp_Europe/Earth nav data/+50+010/+56+012.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 4574539 for file Custom Scenery/hd_global_scenery3/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+014.dsf (306317 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 71892 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50+010/+56+014.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 949635 for file Custom Scenery/w2xp_Europe/Earth nav data/+50+010/+56+014.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 6182854 for file Custom Scenery/hd_global_scenery3/Earth nav data/+50+010/+56+012.dsf (523740 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 20783892 for file Custom Scenery/w2xp_Europe/Earth nav data/+50+010/+54+012.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 16763180 for file Custom Scenery/hd_global_scenery3/Earth nav data/+50+010/+56+014.dsf (1100113 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 4773947 for file Custom Scenery/hd_global_scenery3/Earth nav data/+50+010/+54+012.dsf (526463 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 79935 for file Custom Scenery/EKCH_Scenery_Pack/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+012.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 81130 for file Custom Scenery/EKRK_Scenery_Pack/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+012.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 13929 for file Custom Scenery/Global Airports/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+012.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 9992707 for file Custom Scenery/w2xp_Europe/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+012.dsf (0 tris)

0:01:24.648 I/SCN: DSF load time: 5704683 for file Custom Scenery/hd_global_scenery3/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+012.dsf (652958 tris)

[hjsmuc 393]

You mean FL50? Really, textures don't look that much different with HD mesh. Try a mountainous area, there you should see changes.

[Muskoka 104]

Any mesh has to be the very last entry, meaning at the very bottom of your Scenery_packs.ini file. The original poster doesn't have it at the bottom, below "everything" else. To avoid any potential conflicts just always have mesh as the very last entries, works every time. It is the base "mesh" and everything else sits on top of it.

 

Here's a really good explanation from Tony a few years ago.

 

http://www.avsim.com/topic/442579-understanding-scenery-order/

[Jean-Jacques 120]

Any mesh has to be the very last entry, meaning at the very bottom of your Scenery_packs.ini file. The original poster doesn't have it at the bottom, below "everything" else.

+1

[hjsmuc 393]

 

 

The original poster doesn't have it at the bottom, below "everything" else

 

Right, however he had the two entries below the HD mesh disabled. Not sure that they can still interfere with the loading, so worth temporarily deleting them. Hope he gets it sorted out. 

[Muskoka 104]

Right, however he had the two entries below the HD mesh disabled. Not sure that they can still interfere with the loading, so worth temporarily deleting them. Hope he gets it sorted out.

 

Yes I saw that. Don't know how that "affects" things, but why not be safe and just put them at the very bottom, where they belong. Then there's no guessing, it has to work properly.

[ryanbatc 12,846]

Well I tried v3 in XP11 and ran out of RAM lol!  (Only have 8GB at the moment).

 

Looks like I won't be running HD Mesh for now.

[soaring_penguin 428]

Well I tried v3 in XP11 and ran out of RAM lol!  (Only have 8GB at the moment).

 

Looks like I won't be running HD Mesh for now.

And that is the best independent way to see if it is loaded or not: start XP with and without the HD mesh, and check memory usage. You should see substantial higher memory usage for the same location.

[alpilotx 505]

Oh god ... so much confusion ... And most of the time it is all about "not fully reading the f... manual / website" ...

 

• First: YES, you definitely need the "Earth nav data" folder! It is an absolute must as X-Plane requires it! And no, I did not put it in all ZIP files, as that - I thought - would further increase the confusion. So, the first time you install HD Mesh Scenery v3, you need to create once(!) the "Earth nav data" and then put all the unzipped scenery tile folders (the ones which look like +50+010 etc.)  in it!
• Second: WHAT DO YOU EXPECT from HD Mesh Scenery v3? I mean, there is explicitly a COMPARISON (default / HD Mesh) section, to show you how the exact same locations compare before and after. Check it out, and understand it : https://goo.gl/photos/H6HLY54XM7HoB2qn7
• Third: the best way to see if HD Mesh Scenery loads is by simply checking the Log.txt (an that I do describe in all details in my instructions).

[Wildblue 245]

Solved!!
But i'm not entirely sure what did the trick as i tried several things at once (not the best way of troubleshooting i know).
One of the things i did was re-type the name of the folder "Earth nav data" and payed extra extra extra attention to abundant spaces. Most probably that was the solution.

Thanks for all help and thank you alpilotx for answering my email and offcourse for your great mesh products, i'm enjoying them now to the fullest flying in Switzerland.

[alpilotx 505]

Yes, typos in "Earth nav data" are not unheard off (thats why I even explicitly mention it in the instruction :wink: , because X-plane is very picky about this). So, making sure that there is not a "hidden" typo, is always a good way to start finding problems.

[ryanbatc 12,846]

So Andras, is your v3 mesh OSM data more up to date than the XP11 pb9 data?  I'm wondering because I'm JUST getting into Ortho4xp and at the moment I'm using XP default global scenery for overlay.  I'm creating a photo tile where I live here in Duluth, MN USA.  What data is more correct or more complete?

 

As for the RAM, yes I've read the manuals for v2 - but in XP10 and v2 my RAM usage hardly changed.  There must be a huge change in XP11 for RAM usage I guess.  So XP11 with your v3 I can't run at the moment.  I hope to have 16GB on the way soon.