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How to rub the forum mods the wrong way... (patting the cat backward...)

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Captains,

 

Believe it or not, the thing we forum moderators enjoy doing the LEAST is removing posts from this forum and issuing warnings to forum users for failure to sign their posts.

 

Tonight in less than 10 minutes in the forum I removed 6 posts and issued 4 warnings.

 

Please...  Go to the general forum and read the forum guidelines.  You are required to sign your posts in this forum with your first and last name.

 

We have required this since 1999, and your compliance is expected and appreciated.  :hi:

 

Thank you,

 

 

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Don't ever pat a cat backwards. That is a very bad idea. (Robert, and possibly Kyle, may be a form of cat, so you have been warned.)

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My cats don't mind as long as they get fed and deposit various carcasses around the house.

Is it an american phrase? Never heard it before.

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Don't ever pat a cat backwards. That is a very bad idea. (Robert, and possibly Kyle, may be a form of cat, so you have been warned.)

Or a porcupine...

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We have a new golden retriever...

 

She is a retired show dog.

 

You pat her the wrong way, you will need to have a limb reattached....

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We have a new golden retriever...

 

She is a retired show dog.

 

You pat her the wrong way, you will need to have a limb reattached....

So the dog is your master?

 

Not in my home, brother Robert.

 

I command with a firm but kind iron fist in my castle.

 

...me looks to make sure the PTVCW is not watching me...

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Captains,

 

Believe it or not, the thing we forum moderators enjoy doing the LEAST is removing posts from this forum and issuing warnings to forum users for failure to sign their posts.

 

Tonight in less than 10 minutes in the forum I removed 6 posts and issued 4 warnings.

 

Please...  Go to the general forum and read the forum guidelines.  You are required to sign your posts in this forum with your first and last name.

 

We have required this since 1999, and your compliance is expected and appreciated.  :hi:

 

Thank you,

 

Instead of people acting like the forum police and telling others to sign their full name on posts (very undiplomatic), they should just answer an unnamed post with a link to Cpt.Robert's new "Rub The Wrong Way" post.

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Instead of people acting like the forum police and telling others to sign their full name on post

 

..or just ignore it and move on. But yes, it would be much better if there were people officially designated to do that sort of thing...wait, what..? 

 

I'm with you. Self-appointed moderators are one of my pet hates. 

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Gents,

 

It is normal and customary for frequent users of the forum to welcome new members and point them in the way fitting in.

 

It can be done politely, in a welcoming manner and we encourage users to do so in that manner.

 

(And no, we don't need Forum Internal Affairs telling the Forum Police what to say/not to say.)  :dance: 

 

Prime Directive: Be Nice. 

 

Thank you.

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Be nice? On the internet? Did I miss a memo somewhere? Quite possibly, I've been on a not so voluntary break for the last two weeks, so it's possible that there was some new UN sponsored international convention that everyone has signed up to without my knowledge ;)

 

As for the nice and diplomatic approach, I'm all for that, we never know what the person on the other side is dealing with, could be exam stress, career or family pressure, or something worse.

 

I never read any of the manuals for the T7. Never. I learnt the basics of it by watching Kyle's awesome videos and reading answers to people's questions, that was the limit of my concentration levels at that stage. And I can't think of a single person who would have judged me harshly or refused me assistance at that stage if they knew what I am talking about here. But the key point is, nobody would have known unless I told them, which for good reason, I did not. We should not always assume the worst about people's failure to follow up on even simple requirements unless we know for certain that they have no good reason for not complying, and we cannot always guess or assume their reasons. There is no substitute for politeness.

 

As for the rule requiring signed posts, perhaps if there was a clear explanation for the requirement of the real name signature, there would be less resistance to it, after all, I doubt seriously that anyone in here has a problem with anyone not providing support to users of pirated copies.

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As for the rule requiring signed posts, perhaps if there was a clear explanation for the requirement of the real name signature, there would be less resistance to it, after all, I doubt seriously that anyone in here has a problem with anyone not providing support to users of pirated copies.

 

Hi,

 

Actually there is one (but who did read it? :smile: ):

http://www.avsim.com/topic/245586-you-must-sign-your-full-real-name-to-posts-to-use-this-forum-posts-without-names-will-be-deleted/

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And the justification of the requirement for persons who are posting but are not requesting support?  Also, two days ago someone posted requesting support, signed his full name on the original post, but only his first name on a follow up post.  He was "attacked" by a person without a "PMDG" signature about the forum rules, except...his full name was also his screen name!  It seems some people who read this board seem to do so with the only intention of being the first person to jump on someone for failing to follow this one specific rule.  This is what they live for.

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I don't know who read it and who didn't or what the reasons behind it are, neither does anyone else, my point is that we should not assume a poor reason for not reading something, which is unfortunately something that is assumed all too often, even in the absence of any justifiable reason for doing so.

 

And were we then to find that the person actually had a good reason for not doing what we consider a bare minimum requirement, we will then claim in our defence that we could not have known their reasons, to which the countercharge is, of course, we could not have known their reasons, but we could have known that we could not have known, and as such, we don't really have a good reason for assuming that we are justified in being impolite to someone for not doing what we expect them to have done simply because we didn't know. In the end, we acted as if we did know, even when clearly, we did not.

 

Politeness, if misplaced, is easier to bear than misplaced impoliteness. It also easier to defend.

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I'm usually not one to suggest others follow this or any other rules (I usually leave that to the admins), but I do find it interesting that "Johnathon Barfolomew Doe III" is weighing in on the topic.

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I'm usually not one to suggest others follow this or any other rules (I usually leave that to the admins), but I do find it interesting that "Johnathon Barfolomew Doe III" is weighing in on the topic.

I saw that too, reminded me of an article I read on the unintended consequences of irony earlier today.

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I merely asked what the reason would be to require someone to continue to have to use their full name if (a) they had already done so in their initial support request, and (b) if it was also in fact, their screen name.

 

I know that the mods/devs cant be here full time as they have normal jobs to do, and allowing the commentariat  to assist in resolving issues that may be a user issue and not a development issue (user development not withstanding) is generally ok.  But to also allow the fu*kery that some person(s) exhibit towards someone who merely asked a question should be questioned by all, and should not be allowed to continue.

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I merely asked what the reason would be to require someone to continue to have to use their full name if (a) they had already done so in their initial support request, and (b) if it was also in fact, their screen name.

I imagine that it is simply to make it easier for whoever is responding to the post to recognise that the person is an actual customer without having to scroll through the thread to see if any post had been signed in accordance with the rules.

 

As for the location of the signature, I don't know, perhaps consistency, creating a single spot that everyone knows where to look rather than having to hunt around for it.

 

Either way, I think it's just common courtesy to comply with the rules in this regard as it shows that you are trying to make it easier for people to help you.

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And the justification of the requirement for persons who are posting but are not requesting support?  Also, two days ago someone posted requesting support, signed his full name on the original post, but only his first name on a follow up post.  He was "attacked" by a person without a "PMDG" signature about the forum rules, except...his full name was also his screen name!  It seems some people who read this board seem to do so with the only intention of being the first person to jump on someone for failing to follow this one specific rule.  This is what they live for.

 

You broke the code.  :smile:

 

Sure it's the forum rule, and should be respected, but if I see someone not signing with their full name, what difference does it make to my life? My simming experience?  Zero, that's what. Let the mods set the poster straight, that's what their there for. Personally I'd rather read comments that were germaine to the topic rather than acts of oneupmanship. Unless they're funny, funny is always good. 

 

But you get teachers pets and school prefects in all forums. There's no reason why this one should be any different.

I don't know who read it and who didn't or what the reasons behind it are, neither does anyone else, my point is that we should not assume a poor reason for not reading something, which is unfortunately something that is assumed all too often, even in the absence of any justifiable reason for doing so.

 

And were we then to find that the person actually had a good reason for not doing what we consider a bare minimum requirement, we will then claim in our defence that we could not have known their reasons, to which the countercharge is, of course, we could not have known their reasons, but we could have known that we could not have known, and as such, we don't really have a good reason for assuming that we are justified in being impolite to someone for not doing what we expect them to have done simply because we didn't know. In the end, we acted as if we did know, even when clearly, we did not.

 

Politeness, if misplaced, is easier to bear than misplaced impoliteness. It also easier to defend.

 

 

That was a superb impersonation of Sir Humphrey Appleby.  :Applause:

 

Agreed, by the way.

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I honestly appreciate it when people remind each other. It's one less time I need to remind someone, and I have to do it all day (it gets tiring).

 

 

 

...so, knock it off. If someone reminds you of the rules, then mind the rules and correct the behavior. It's really, incredibly simple. If they say it to someone else, and you end up getting on their case about it, you're falling victim to the same thing you're telling them not to do: telling other people what to do...so...there's that.

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As for the location of the signature, I don't know, perhaps consistency, creating a single spot that everyone knows where to look rather than having to hunt around for it.

That's exactly why.

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That was a superb impersonation of Sir Humphrey Appleby.  :Applause:

 

Agreed, by the way.

Embarrassingly, that is not an entirely inaccurate observation. Note to self, less Godel more Shermer.

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Well one must keep in mind it's a private forum andso can have house rules that have nothing to do with free space etc.

 

You won't come into my house and tell me what's what. .. I'll show you the door.

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