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P3D - crashing after 4-5 hours with PMDG

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My mate had this, I had it with the 777.

 

Have you used migration tool and have vistamar.dll (aerosoft) enabled??

 

If so disable it, it can cause problems.

 

Hey,

 

nope. Nothing what is not official compatible with P3D is installed or added.


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No Vistamare and no Migration Tool here. It is indeed remarkable that the crash always happens at 5 hours.

 

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I'd take a wild guess here and say that the process' memory area that Windows reserves for keeping track of objects such as strings, menus, etc. (which is called the interactive desktop heap) has run out of room. This seems to be a problem with legacy 32 bit applications. You can Google this issue. There is a way to increase the size, but for Win 7, 8 and 10, Microsoft recommends against such a registry edit.

 

People are aware of a the 4 GB VAS limit for legacy 32 bit applications, but they don't realize that there are other ways of running out of address space. The only real solution is to have a 64 bit app.

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I'd take a wild guess here and say that the process' memory area that Windows reserves for keeping track of objects such as strings, menus, etc. (which is called the interactive desktop heap) has run out of room. This seems to be a problem with legacy 32 bit applications. You can Google this issue. There is a way to increase the size, but for Win 7, 8 and 10, Microsoft recommends against such a registry edit.

 

People are aware of a the 4 GB VAS limit for legacy 32 bit applications, but they don't realize that there are other ways of running out of address space. The only real solution is to have a 64 bit app.

 

Interesting, I will give it a try (found this: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/126962/-out-of-memory-error-message-appears-when-you-have-a-large-number-of-programs-running) 

 

I did more researche and had a talk with a Microsoft Guy and he told me, that if the error comes from Out of Memory, it will be defnitily written in the logs (what isn't happening if you see the error message)

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About 3-4 months ago I had a similar problem. After, many many, different things, I reinstalled W10. I know it is a lot of work. But everything  reinstalled and getting very good performance now....Last resort, I guess.

 

Years ago, I could only get 6 months or so out of WindowsXP, Vista, was a little better, W7, was even better.

 

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Well, my computer is almost brand new. I've reinstalled W10 last month.


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Well, my computer is almost brand new. I've reinstalled W10 last month.

 

I did it last weekend :D


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My whole computer has shut down twice just before approach on an eham-omdb flight. Just blacked out. Not sure if this is the same problem?

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Sounds like an out of memory error, or you're running something in the sim that isn't compatible with that version of the sim (usually an add-on, like orbx libs, the couatl addon manager, etc).

 

For the out of memory issues, please see the section in the intro manual discussing it.

 

 

Dunno if the team is aware, but there is a massive memory leak issue with the latest NVIDIA driver even the folks at FSlabs are having it. Rolling bavk to 376.33 (14 DEC 2016) solved it for me. Maybe its worth pinning a post about this


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My whole computer has shut down twice just before approach on an eham-omdb flight. Just blacked out. Not sure if this is the same problem?

 

If your computer craps out like that, i.e. completely shutting down, that's sometimes an indication of an issue with the power supply unit not being able to deliver enough power to the GPU, i.e. your graphics card working so hard that there isn't enough power going down the rail to the card to keep it going, so your PSU just goes 'screw this' and conks out. I'd check to see if your PSU is heavy duty enough to supply the necessary power to your GPU when it has to work very hard, as it will with fancy FS add-ons.


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If your computer craps out like that, i.e. completely shutting down, that's sometimes an indication of an issue with the power supply unit not being able to deliver enough power to the GPU, i.e. your graphics card working so hard that there isn't enough power going down the rail to the card to keep it going, so your PSU just goes 'screw this' and conks out. I'd check to see if your PSU is heavy duty enough to supply the necessary power to your GPU when it has to work very hard, as it will with fancy FS add-ons.

 

That might be the case. I upgraded my videocard to a much better one. Didn't think of my power. Wouldn't it shut down asap, not after a couple of hours?

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I get the "unexpected error" CTD on those long flight with PMDG, but  it's random.  I have many add-ons including ORBX.  Very frustrating, but I can't isolate it.


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I get the "unexpected error" CTD on those long flight with PMDG, but  it's random.  I have many add-ons including ORBX.  Very frustrating, but I can't isolate it.

What does the error report look like?  If the faulting module  is MSVCR120.dll then that indicates you might be using the left PFD popup.  Don't do that.  If you need to popup the PFD use the right side.


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What does the error report look like?  If the faulting module  is MSVCR120.dll then that indicates you might be using the left PFD popup.  Don't do that.  If you need to popup the PFD use the right side.

 

I'll get a screenshot of the error next time.

Another obervations:  I had the CTD twice on long-haul when I tried to call up the ASN weather report of my destination near the top of descent.  When I see it again, I will pass details of the wrror report.


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I'll get a screenshot of the error next time.

Another obervations:  I had the CTD twice on long-haul when I tried to call up the ASN weather report of my destination near the top of descent.  When I see it again, I will pass details of the wrror report.

That would be of no use what so ever.  Use the windows event viewer to see the event report.


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