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Will it help on the VAS if I deactivate sceneries in the scenery library in P3D? If I want to take a flight from say Amsterdam to Copenhagen, will it save some VAS to deactivate sceneries outside this route?

And are there any programs out there, where you can plan a route from A to B, and it automatically disables sceneries (and ai) outside a certain "bubble"?

 

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Yes, it will. This is in fact one of the things which PMDG recommended in the linked article below, which relates to FSX, but is still pertinent to p3d. It's worth a read to understand more about how to stop OOM errors:

 

http://support.precisionmanuals.com/kb/a108/vas-management-stopping-out-of-memory-oom-errors.aspx


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will it save some VAS to deactivate sceneries outside this route?

 

Outside of the route...no.


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It also reduce the load time when starting prepar3d.


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What everybody up there said.  Around London, I have three airports and I only enable the one(s) I'm going to use.  I disable the others.  I once came close to an OOM flying over Drzw. NYC at 35,000 ft, (who put that VOR there?!) so that gets disabled much of the time too.  For myself, I use Simstarter to manage it all.  I think there's a freeware app you can use (Scenery Config Editor or something?) that can make it easy as well.  You probably only need to disable things that you're going to fly within 30 miles of if you think you'll have a VAS problem on the route. 


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"Outside of the route...no"

 

I just believe I heard somewhere that if you have, let's say 50.addon airports, P3D will "see" all of them, and therefor it would be a good idea to disable the ones you know you won't be anywhere near.

 

About Simstarter: Can you make a flighplan from ie. Copenhagen to Dubai, and then simstarter can check which addons are on the route and disable them, before the flight?

 

Jlund 


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"Outside of the route...no"


I just believe I heard somewhere that if you have, let's say 50.addon airports, P3D will "see" all of them, and therefor it would be a good idea to disable the ones you know you won't be anywhere near.

 

Yeah, I've heard that claim and I've never seen it in the sim.  I, sometimes, watch VAS and see when it goes up when I'm near an airport and that's when it's crtical.  I think it's around 20 miles so I give it thirty to be safe.

 

 

 


About Simstarter: Can you make a flighplan from ie. Copenhagen to Dubai, and then simstarter can check which addons are on the route and disable them, before the flight?

 

No, it doesn't do that.  You could make a suggestion to Pero over at the Aerosoft forums.  He's very active supporting the product.  With simstarter you can have various config sets (fsx.cfg, prepar3d.cfg, scenery.cfg, etc.) and save them.  I have various prepar3d.cfg depending on the area, the weather and the kind of flying I'm doing (GA or metal).  If the weather's bad I use lower settings.  I also have a scenery set for each region so that if I'm flying in Europe all my North America, Asia, Pacific sceneries are not loaded...greatly saves load time.  I also have the sceneries arranged by country and it has a cool little feature so that I can disable an entire country with a click if I want to do that (rarely needed but it's there.)  I do make manual changes occasionally to the scenery sets...like the London situation.  Takes a moment.


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If you fly within or into a FTX region in it may help to desactivate Vector and LC Data of this region as the FTX region already contains corresponding vector and landclass data.


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Thanks for the help guys, I will try some of your suggestions and see if it makes a difference.

I can see there's two versions of Simstarter, a payware and a freeware. Will the freeware version be able do do the things you mention or do I need the payware for it?


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Will the freeware version be able do do the things you mention or do I need the payware for it?

 

The payware version does more for certain, but I think the free version might suit your needs.  I didn't think it was available any more but, if it is, give it a try.


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I have the Payware version of SimStarter and I highly highly recommend to adjust scenery, setup your sim for any specific flight, etc.  Anyway, point of this post is I think the Freeware will not work with latest version of P3D and FSX-SE.  


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If you fly within or into a FTX region in it may help to desactivate Vector and LC Data of this region as the FTX region already contains corresponding vector and landclass data.

 

which orbx scenery files contain the vector and lc data? is this the CVX file? i see "scenery, cvx, mesh, custom" for the 4 different layers. i'm trying to determine which ones i can disable for northern california but while still using the updated airport afcads.

 

right now at ksfo with all the options for the norcal region disabled i still only get 300meg free VAS so i need to free more things up to use the 747 from there. 

 

EDIT:

i realized those are actually directories so i took a peek in there.. it looks like the following:

scenery=airports

cvx=looks like probably photoreal stuff, lot of natural features

custom=looks like landclass +waterclass maybe

mesh=seems just mesh

 

disabled cvx and custom ..seems to free up maybe 200-250 meg which might be sufficient, will have a test.

 

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The Freeware version of SimStarter is no longer maintained indeed. However, you can apply for a trial key for the Payware version now.

 

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Will it help on the VAS if I deactivate sceneries in the scenery library in P3D? If I want to take a flight from say Amsterdam to Copenhagen, will it save some VAS to deactivate sceneries outside this route?

And are there any programs out there, where you can plan a route from A to B, and it automatically disables sceneries (and ai) outside a certain "bubble"?

 

Jlund

Before you start disabling stuff have a look here http://www.avsim.com/topic/503767-vas-problem/page-2#entry3569595

 

The latest nvidia drivers are producing shocking VAS issues. I used to be able to fly out of UK2000 EGLL across the Atlantic and land successfully with only about 80% VAS usage. After the latest nvidia drivers (78.49) were installed I couldn't get airborne before the usage was approaching 90%, some times 95% with that really annoying OOM ding that FSUIPC produces if I had switched to any outside views. I wouldn't make it out of UK airspace before OOM happened.

 

Gone back to 76.33 drivers and all is good in the world again.

 

If you don't use nvidia, forget all above:)


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I use Simstarter payware and like it very much.
Does help me to keep VAS usage within limits.

Basically for each flight I use 2 scenery sets simultaneously:

  • Region set, with all the basic (and required) sceneries, like mesh, FTX, Vector, regions, etc (i.e. no airports)
  • Route set, with only 2 airports: Departure and destination

Works great 


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