Virtual Cockpit Visual P3D vs FSX

[strange_deja_vu 0]

Hi all,

I recently switched to P3D from FSX. However I have a considerable issue with the quality of PMDG virtual cockpit in P3D compared to FSX.  I am using a 4K monitor (3.840 x 2.160). Below I tried to give an example what I mean with a picture. In FSX the appearance of VC was crystal clear, much much more sharper and with no blurriness. But in P3D the appearance looks like as if I run an on board Graphic Cards.

Any help will be highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Hakan 

 

 

 

 

[Nyxx 6,993]

THe FSX one looks like you have used the 2D pop up since there are no Engine Fire buttons etc, your P3D one is a VC shot. Not a fair like for like.

But...

FSX or more to the point DirectX 9 does have better AA than DirectX 11. So sadly you will never get it as sharp.

You can use nvidia inspector and do a 4x 4x but instead of me explaining it here look at Rob's P3D guild at the top of this forum.

[strange_deja_vu 0]

Hi Nyxx,

Yes you are right , I used "Shift + 6" in order to be able to show you the difference. (like night and day). Of course I did not get this image from FSX since I did not guess I would encounter such kind of an issue in P3D. But believe me the difference is "almost" like thisI. IApart from this, t is bad/sad to learn that D11 has sacrified AA vs D9. Anyway, the doc by Rob seems fantastic. Thank you to let me know.

Hakan.

[bean_sprout 1,201]

Try disabling HDR

Cheers

bs

 

 

 

[strange_deja_vu 0]

Hi BS,

i am currently formatting my PC for a clean install. Will let you know once İ finished. 

Thanks,

Hakan

[Nyxx 6,993]

What as HDR got to do with sharpness? 

[ryanbatc 12,770]

Is it an 2d panel transparency setting?  It almost looks semi opaque 

[strange_deja_vu 0]

Hi all,

@ryanbatcund - on the left hand side you see the 2D panel while on the right hand side it is the Virtual Cockpit visual.

 @Bean_speout - I've disabled HDR lighting. It made an improvement but this time the VC requires some additional lighting (backlighting, panel lighting, etc) even in daytime. (i.e. 11.00a.m.) I really cannot understand why do I need to sacrifice some of the specs (good ones) while upgrading the systems.  (P3D from FSX, Dx11 from Dx9,etc). As can be seen from the picture the difference is HUGE! Even you forget the 2D panel visual, the VC appearance is on the ground level. 

 

I am sure it is not a common stuff otherwise I don't think that you guys have a motivation to fly with P3D.

 

Anyway - I will continue to search and hopefully find a descent solution.

 

Will keep you posted.

Best,

Hakan

[Guest]

Try to increase color saturation to something like 1.40, within the lighting section of P3d graphics.

In my P3D I had the same issue and that saturation tweak bettered a lot the situation 

[strange_deja_vu 0]

Hi Mark,

ok will try that...

Hakan

[WarpD 824]

Reduce the bloom.

[strange_deja_vu 0]

Will do it Warpd :))

[Ray Proudfoot 8,905]

Try turning off Mipmapping for VC. That improved my Concorde panel quite a bit.

[strange_deja_vu 0]

Hello all,

Thank each of you for the recommendations. I applied each and every of them and it seems they improved, however, ony a little bit. There is still a huge difference in VC apperance especially in 738NGX vs FSX. On the other hand it is hard to believe that you cannot get the clarity or visual quality with a 4K monitor , run by MSI GTX 1080 Graphics card. May be one day ( hopefully P3Dv4) will use Dx12, Dx15 whatever it is and we get high quality visuals.

Cheers,

Hakan

[downscc 1,327]

Hakan, I have very very good clarity and visual quality on my 42-in 4K monitor with a GTX980Ti card.  I notice on one of the screenies you posted the P3D the Display is a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 7.... something, rather than the 1080 you mention.  Do your settings match your hardware?