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Negatives of F1 GTN750

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Hi , what are the negatives i should be aware about for the GTN750 F1 ?

 

FPS hit?

Relationship with autopilot?

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Price. The rest is just perfect.

Also, charging twice for the exact same product in a different window (GTN650) is sort of PMDG-ish and really shouldn't happen.

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You might want to wait for the Reality XP GTN 750/650 for Prepar3D, it may be a cheaper option compared to the Flight1 package.

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Hi Folks,

Yeah - wish it had weather like the real deal...

Price - $120.00 for both 650/750 (P3D) is painful and obnoxious when you know F1 benefits greatly from the bulk of coding done by Garmin in the GTN Trainer itself and released for Free... As stated the 650 and 750 is the same product in a little different wrapper which also hurts... Hopefully RXP breeds a little competition which benefits the consumer as it's certainly needed...

Other than that - works pretty darn good all around - never noticed any FPS hit...

Regards,

Scott

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The F1 GTN, to me is the gold standard of GPS units, Never fly without it, and you can use it on pretty much any aircraft, either built into the panel with some aircraft or as a 2 D popup. For the use I get out of it, it was an inexpensive investment. 

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2 hours ago, ukplane1 said:

Hi , what are the negatives i should be aware about for the GTN750 F1 ?

Price. Only that.

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FPS hit?

Close to zero.

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Relationship with autopilot?

Works 100%, except some very specific cases, for example errors in some versions, always timely fixed by Flight1.

Conclusion. If price is no problem for you, then buy it.  You will not want to fly without anymore.

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One important thing you should consider, however.

DTG is going to release a new early access FSX version with 64-bit in few days. Lockheed Martin is also rumoured to release P3Dv4 soon. So far, there are no clear indications from Flight1 about if and to which extent they will support these new platforms. Too soon to tell. Maybe you could consider waiting some weeks and get some basic information before making your purchase decision.
Just my friendly advice.

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is the F1 GTN750 capable for faster aircraft such as learjet35a or phenom 300?

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Yep works fine.  I've got two installed in the Flysimware Lear.

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price of course, but also that navdata is only periodically updated for it 

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Hi Folks,

Ditto with the Flysimware Lear 35A - although single unit - tested with the new version (2.9) of the plane over the weekend and it's a match made in heaven... Flew a bunch of GPS Approaches complete with procedure turns and holds...

Regards,
Scott

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That lear and the GTN is an amazing combination. Makes you forget even the Citation X.

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Has anyone tried the RXP GTNs in X-Plane and the Flight 1 GTNs in FSX/P3D that can offer any comparisons?

Ted

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They are fantastic units; but I'd say that the #1 negative is that you can't automatically crossfill flightplans between GTNs (even though they've been promising it as an upgrade for nearly 3 years now).

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4 hours ago, scottb613 said:

Hi Folks,

Yeah - wish it had weather like the real deal...

Price - $120.00 for both 650/750 (P3D) is painful and obnoxious when you know F1 benefits greatly from the bulk of coding done by Garmin in the GTN Trainer itself and released for Free... As stated the 650 and 750 is the same product in a little different wrapper which also hurts... Hopefully RXP breeds a little competition which benefits the consumer as it's certainly needed...

Other than that - works pretty darn good all around - never noticed any FPS hit...

Regards,

Scott

If you look at the price point of their offerings for X-Plane, there may not be much difference - separate units, $49.95 each. I don't see that RXP will do it any different, after all, they were the first to hack the GNS 530/430 Trainer in FS9/X

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38 minutes ago, MadDog said:

They are fantastic units; but I'd say that the #1 negative is that you can't automatically crossfill flightplans between GTNs (even though they've been promising it as an upgrade for nearly 3 years now).

just wondering why would you need more than 1 GTN750?

sorry im a noob at these gps avionics. 

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1 hour ago, ukplane1 said:

just wondering why would you need more than 1 GTN750?

sorry im a noob at these gps avionics. 

You don't actually "need", but it may be useful in some cases. For example, many developers release products with a plug-in which allows to fit two separate GTN or GNS units. Example, 2x GTN 750, 1 x GTN750 + 1x GTN 650, or 1x GNS 530 + 1x GNS 430 etc. In such cases, you can use one unit for radio and flight plan operations and the other to show the map all the time.

As long as crossfill is not guaranteed, however, this makes little sense. Moreover, I noticed, for example in the Flysimware Lear 35a, that using 2 GTN 750 units instead of one significantly increases the FPS load.

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Thanks for the responses .

on this link http://library.flight1.net/?cat=35 it seems to be missing some planes which i thought could the gtn 750 could slot in to.

Can these planes have a GTN750 fitted into their VC?

Carenado pc12?

Carenado piper seneca?

Carenado hawker850?

Flysimware learjet35?

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Hi...

  • Carenado pc12? - - - Yes V2
  • Carenado piper Seneca? - - - don't know...
  • Carenado hawker850? - - - Yes - but a kludge as the real plane uses FMC - need the mods from Bert...
  • Flysimware learjet35? - - - Yes - native support and the best of the lot in my book...

Regards,

Scott

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Another reason to have two GTN750's - the on screen variables. One unit only offers four at a time. Ex wind, ETE, GS, distance etc.  with two units you can have more data in front of you - very handy even if you can't cross fill flight plans.  The F1 units in P3D and RXP units in XP11 are basically the same.

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The only negative I can think of is no crossfill. Come on F1 you can do it...

 

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I (try) to use it as a moving map in the PMDG products.  But since the "upgrade", it's been freezing whenever I pause the sim or try to open one of the sim menus, the screen freezes.

I asked for help in the F1 forum but they told me they don't support the GPS w/ use of those aircraft.

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This is certainly a minor negative but the GTN and the flight sim use two different data bases for the airfields.  So if the airports identification code has changed since the establishment of the FSX data base, it will be different (updated) in the GTN than it is within FSX/P3D.   Some may view this as a positive as well

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Yes, besides the database not being updateable, you also cannot import flight plans from PFPX.

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