TechguyMaxC

Thank you to developers that have chosen not to charge for v4 updates

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I want to say thanks to all the developers that have chosen to update their existing add-ons in order to work with the new 64-bit version of P3D, and especially for not charging us for the updates.  My intention is not to call out any devs that have decided to charge for such an update, I understand the business reasons for doing so.  Just wanted to give a big thumbs up to those that have chosen this customer first approach.  This topic has come up a few times, I felt like it deserved it's own thread so that we could all express our appreciation.

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Corrected "udpates" to "updates"
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Fully agree. Even more as I didn't expect it at all.

Kind regards, Michael

 

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Yes, THANKS for the very kind gesture. As a FSX user, making the switch to a new sim platform is not going to be as expensive as I thought it would be. 

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7 minutes ago, CaribbeanCLANK said:

Yes, THANKS for the very kind gesture. As a FSX user, making the switch to a new sim platform is not going to be as expensive as I thought it would be. 

I think that's a different situation.  If you already have P3D versions of an addon, you won't be charged an upgrade fee to 64 bit.  If you''re upgrading from FSX, there's a charge for P3D versions with some developers

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3 minutes ago, ErichB said:

I think that's a different situation.  If you already have P3D versions of an addon, you won't be charged an upgrade fee to 64 bit.  If you''re upgrading from FSX, there's a charge for P3D versions with some developers

Yes, that is the case for some devs. As of right now, I will have to re-purchase Active Sky 16, Cloud Art, and my 3 PMDG aircraft. I will probably only re-purchase the 747 and 777. Orbx, FSDreamTeam and FlightBeam will not charge an upgrade fee for ANY of their customers, regardless for their current platform of choice. Those 3 devs have already saved me a several hundred of dollars.

Knowing that so many of my favorite add-ons will be moving to a 64bit platform is excellent. As for devs like PMDG & HiFi Simulations, I am still very thankful as it is still a very kind gesture even if I will not benefit. 

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Well, you won't be sorry.

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Well, this is tricky in my opinion. Devps (even if I do thank them for the free upgrades) are not telling the whole story. They are offering compatibility of some of their products to the upcoming 64-bit P3D in their current status (let's say, "32-bit status" complexity and scope). But to take advantage of the potential of a 64-bit platform there will be upgrades from the same developers that of course will charge money, as they will be re-done, completely or partially, to be more complex under such new 64-bit environment. So the word "free" will not exist anymore when it comes to add-ons adapted to a 64-bit platform that allows more complex graphics, calculations and so on.

Cheers, Ed

 

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12 minutes ago, edpatino said:

Well, this is tricky in my opinion. Devps (even if I do thank them for the free upgrades) are not telling the whole story. They are offering compatibility of some of their products to the upcoming 64-bit P3D in their current status (let's say, "32-bit status" complexity and scope). But to take advantage of the potential of a 64-bit platform there will be upgrades from the same developers that of course will charge money, as they will be re-done, completely or partially, to be more complex under such new 64-bit environment. So the word "free" will not exist anymore when it comes to add-ons adapted to a 64-bit platform that allows more complex graphics, calculations and so on.

Cheers, Ed

 

This is true, there will eventually come a new round of 64-bit optimized add-ons and we will likely have to purchase those.  In the meantime, it's nice to be able to keep using our existing add-ons at no additional cost.

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Also I spelled updates wrong in the title and didn't notice until now.  If a moderator could fix that I would appreciate it.  

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and i am more than happy to support further new projects addons for p3d and xplane as they come out.

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that's OK. I didn't notice the updates spelling either. And yes, it's a very good PR move from the developers too.

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And why should they not charge too.. They cannot keep doing stuff for free through out their life...

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14 minutes ago, TechguyMaxC said:

Also I spelled updates wrong in the title and didn't notice until now.  If a moderator could fix that I would appreciate it.  

Done!

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23 minutes ago, TechguyMaxC said:

This is true, there will eventually come a new round of 64-bit optimized add-ons and we will likely have to purchase those.  In the meantime, it's nice to be able to keep using our existing add-ons at no additional cost.

Right!.

Cheers, Ed

 

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To be fair, some developers estimated the cost of upgrading to the 64bit version and included that in the price of the P3D v3 versions, so it isn't all from the goodness of their hearts :wink:

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I agree.  It's nice to be able to use what we have at no additional cost, but I don't have any problem re-purchasing for native releases, even if they are the same thing, but optimized in every way.

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So far, I agree. In addition to it, I'd like to say thank you to all developers for making their products compatible with newly upcoming V4. Some products need lots of work and the developers are charging for an upgrade, or even a full price product, that is totally fine. You have a life and bills to pay, so do we, and we will continue to support all the fine products which are available to this community.

(Pete Dowson new FSUIPC V5 will be a full new product, but no one can doubt his magic and contribution to us. Has been, and always will support him)


Cheers,

Hoang Le

 

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This is going to help the transition to v4 be much quicker. The more people on v4, the faster third party developers can start to create v4-specific products that will take advantage of the more robust capabilities that v4 offers. 

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Caution:

As we all know, business are there to make money- that's understandable. However, there are some charges that are really unnecessary... such as charging for a P3D installer coming from FSX. (Without mentioning names; but, you all know whom I'm referring to). Therefore...

.... to prevent these extra charges to continue from any developer, I'd like to remind and request that we all refrain from comments such as....

"I don't care how much it costs, I will pay for it."

"Just shut-up and take my money"

"Your product is so good that I don't care paying  for it again."   

(Folks: Being smart is not about how much you know, but, what you know and how to apply such in life)

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Yes, great many thanks.

Let's not forget that LM deserves some praise here too, for making this an easy transition. Many of us were sure it would be an expensive disaster.

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As an AS16 owner for p3dv3, do I have to purchase the 64 bit version?

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15 hours ago, whoispankaj said:

And why should they not charge

Now after reading your post, I am sure they will change their mind.

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This is the way to maintain the userbase. I don't even mind paying again for updates when (if) P3D V5 comes out.

Way to go, and (VERY) surprised at some developers doing this, it was about time.

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