Here is word from FSlab team about 64bit

[joemiller 269]

7 hours ago, flyalways said:

Word of caution, however:

 

This does not mean "no more OOMs" - if add-on developers are not careful, we will soon realize that as soon as users turn everything to maximum, there is still a very real possibility of 8GB or 16GB of installed RAM not being enough any more to support 4096 texture sceneries, full autogen, ultra 7cm resolutions, etc - not to mention that nagging will now be transformed from "oh - my bleeping thing OOMed!" to "oh - my bleeping thing is crawling at 4 Frames Per Year (tm)".

 

guys, upgrade your RAM to 32GB

On a Serious Note- and in defense of FSL-, allow me say what happened with some customers. After some 'brave' well-known  developer promised to develop an Airbus series around 9 years ago, and then change its mind, FSL stepped-up to the challenge. The sim world literally begged for the highest quality Airbus 320, we have ever seen. Well, guess what?.. FSL came along and said: "Fine, we believe we can do it." And they did !!

However (however), now that it is out, some folks, began crying left and right, up and down saying that this add-on is too demanding. Well, what did you expect? You asked for the highest quality in systems, graphics, and everything in-between, and you got it!  FSL Delivered!  Therefore, to those folks I would say if you don't have what it takes to handle such a top quality A/C, then don't even try.

It's like trying to handle a gorgeous, beautiful, top-of-the-line young woman... If you don't have the______, nor the money, nor all the materiel stuff, she will not even look at you. (haha, what an analogy but true). 

[Bunchy 222]

1 hour ago, tooting said:

Have a chat with my missus will you,  😂😂

she's going to hit the roof when she sees the screw drivers coming out!!!

I'm trying to work out how to secretly go from 8 to 32 gigs and a ssd without her noticing, I've got from 8.30am to 1800 and that's delivery, open. Install,  close and dispose of packaging.  I'm glad I'm not the only one!

Don't forget to password protect the Avsim forums, in case she reads this.

[him225 51]

Not top of the line graphically I would say. For example it does not make use of bump/spec for better surface appearance to improve its vc which is bit shabby looking. I wish it had looks as robust as its systems modelling. Geometry wise it is very detailed though.

33 minutes ago, joemiller said:

On a Serious Note- and in defense of FSL-, allow me say what happened with some customers. After some 'brave' well-known  developer promised to develop an Airbus series around 9 years ago, and then change its mind, FSL stepped-up to the challenge. The sim world literally begged for the highest quality Airbus 320, we have ever seen. Well, guess what?.. FSL came along and said: "Fine, we believe we can do it." And they did !!

However (however), now that it is out, some folks, began crying left and right, up and down saying that this add-on is too demanding. Well, what did you expect? You asked for the highest quality in systems, graphics, and everything in-between, and you got it!  FSL Delivered!  Therefore, to those folks I would say if you don't have what it takes to handle such a top quality A/C, then don't even try.

It's like trying to handle a gorgeous, beautiful, top-of-the-line young woman... If you don't have the______, nor the money, nor all the materiel stuff, she will not even look at you. (haha, what an analogy but true). 

 

[joemiller 269]

3 minutes ago, him225 said:

Not top of the line graphically I would say. For example it does not make use of bump/spec for better surface appearance to improve its vc which is bit shabby looking. I wish it had looks as robust as its systems modelling. Geometry wise it is very detailed though.

 

True.. the graphics are not the best, especially if you compare with Aerosoft's whose darn beautiful. But, it is still really nice. I'm  guessing they notice the tremendous amount of coding, necessary during development and realize if the graphics had all the bells and whistles (combined with systems), it may had been outrageously hard on performance to a point which it would not run well even with current hardware....  <------ (just my very wild guest).  

[him225 51]

I guess texturing is least of the performance issues in p3d with a modern gpu. Regarding memory might take around 40-60mb more for vc if going by VCs of other devs. Actually it is the detailed geometry that has its additional load on the cpu while good texturing might have come with negligible performance hit. That said I expect it to perform more or less the same as in v3 with similar settings.

28 minutes ago, joemiller said:

True.. the graphics are not the best, especially if you compare with Aerosoft's whose darn beautiful. But, it is still really nice. I'm  guessing they notice the tremendous amount of coding, necessary during development and realize if the graphics had all the bells and whistles (combined with systems), it may had been outrageously hard on performance to a point which it would not run well even with current hardware....  <------ (just my very wild guest).  

 

[Wanthuyr Filho 83]

I agree as well, VC graphics quality wise is lacking real hard. Not sure, but maybe they applied some old technique (considering it started being developed 6 or more years ago) or something, anyway it would be awesome if they updated the VC to something better looking, especially now that VAS should not be an issue anymore. The other day I was looking the pics of the new Airbus of Aerosoft and it seemed to be the most perfect ever, that's the kind of approach I wish FSLabs had.

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1 hour ago, PhugoidEffect said:

The other day I was looking the pics of the new Airbus of Aerosoft and it seemed to be the most perfect ever

Er... new Airbus? What new Airbus...?!

[joemiller 269]

59 minutes ago, PhugoidEffect said:

I agree as well, VC graphics quality wise is lacking real hard. Not sure, but maybe they applied some old technique (considering it started being developed 6 or more years ago) or something, anyway it would be awesome if they updated the VC to something better looking, especially now that VAS should not be an issue anymore. The other day I was looking the pics of the new Airbus of Aerosoft and it seemed to be the most perfect ever, that's the kind of approach I wish FSLabs had.

Yes, but don't forget that Aerosoft's system-wise is maybe half of FSL, See I'm sure FSL could make it 'prettier' as much as Aerosoft; but, I am pretty sure it will cost a lot of performance.. and this will hit FPS. I'm sure this beast was no easy task. (Far form a Boeing)  And, as you can see they took a very long time to complete. To this date FSL is the only developer that has managed to come up with such a high fidelity Airbus... But anyway, let's see what the future brings; hopefully lots of more joy. 

[joemiller 269]

7 minutes ago, J van E said:

Er... new Airbus? What new Airbus...?!

They're working on the A-330, and it's already looking like a gorgeous bride. Go check it out.  

[weeksy 45]

11 minutes ago, J van E said:

Er... new Airbus? What new Airbus...?!

I think he means the A330 that Aerosoft have in development.

Oops -Joe beat me to it!

[joemiller 269]

6 minutes ago, weeksy said:

I think he means the A330 that Aerosoft have in development.

Oops -Joe beat me to it!

Yeah it's a beauty. I am 100% looking forward to it. See, I really do like their approach.. Like Mathis says, they model pilot's job, rather than modeling fuses, gas lines, and countless amounts of failures, which honestly why would I want to take to the air such a beauty and turn off its engine or burn one of it fuse? (I don't know.. maybe its just me, but, makes no sense) 

[Chock 17,769]

4 hours ago, joemiller said:

On a Serious Note- and in defense of FSL-, allow me say what happened with some customers. After some 'brave' well-known  developer promised to develop an Airbus series around 9 years ago, and then change its mind, FSL stepped-up to the challenge. The sim world literally begged for the highest quality Airbus 320, we have ever seen. Well, guess what?.. FSL came along and said: "Fine, we believe we can do it." And they did !!

However (however), now that it is out, some folks, began crying left and right, up and down saying that this add-on is too demanding. Well, what did you expect? You asked for the highest quality in systems, graphics, and everything in-between, and you got it!  FSL Delivered!

As I'm sure you know, there were actually several developers who had a stab at an A320 prior to FSL, with many of them long on promises and short on demonstrable results; thus varying degrees of success, ranging from outright vapourware bordering on fraud through to usable but not super-accurate ensued, but as you say, FSL were the ones who delivered on the promise. Since they took around six years to do so, I suspect that during that time they were hoping that LM were on the case for a 64 bit version of P3D and so were not too afraid to push things, and now we see that it has all kind of panned out, what with not one, but two ESP-based 64 bit sim platforms on the way and the added bonus for FSL that they will get to charge for another license/upgrade to FSW users at some point, and why not? They did the work and are a business, so good luck to them in recouping the cash from a six-year-long investment.

But, we all know that if you give a flight simmer enough rope, they will hang themselves lol; the moment any upgraded component goes on their PCs, even if it is just a go faster stripe stuck on the case, then it's back to shoving all those sliders over to the right and installing everything including the kitchen sink in the sim. As a result of course, they're back on forums b**ching about frame rates or stutters. The heralding of 64 bit as the standard for flight sims is of course a good thing, but if anyone thinks we'll see an end to all issues because of it, especially when many people don't match components and bus speeds properly when they install some new bit in their PC, is mistaken, and let's be honest, we'd probably all miss it, cos it's kind of the flight simmer way to be complaining about something lol

[mikea76 184]

1 hour ago, joemiller said:

Yeah it's a beauty. I am 100% looking forward to it. See, I really do like their approach.. Like Mathis says, they model pilot's job, rather than modeling fuses, gas lines, and countless amounts of failures, which honestly why would I want to take to the air such a beauty and turn off its engine or burn one of it fuse? (I don't know.. maybe its just me, but, makes no sense) 

What makes the FSL bus stand out is not just failures and modeling fuel lines.. it's how they modeled the flare behavior correctly so it lands like a real bus... or how they used custom ground friction so it behaves much more realistically on the takeoff roll or landing and how it has a separate tiler and proper operation of the nose wheel, and the vastly superior lighting and proper modeling of both engine options and superior sound effects.   Plus when their a319 and a321 come out it's not going to be just a a320 that looks like a 319 or 321, it will be properly modeled with all differences 

 

it you care about sim accuracy and getting as close as you can to the job of a a320 pilot than you should fly the FSL bus

[JRBarrett 3,045]

There were a couple of other announcements by FSL in the thread on their forum regarding P3D V4 updates.

1: The next product is the 319. They would not give a release estimate, but considering that the 319 is quite close to the 320 size, performance and systems-wise, I would think that one is pretty far along already.

2. There is another aircraft in the pipeline too. Lefteris wouldn't give any details other than to say that it will "hold more fuel" than the 320. I am thinking it might be the 330, which would be sweet indeed!

He didn't give any other info other than that one hint.

I'm quite certain that Aerosoft's 330 will be out much sooner, and will undoubtedly be of the same caliber as their nice A318-321 series - but the thought of a possible FSL 330 with the same depth as their 320 is very intriguing!

[mikea76 184]

4 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

There were a couple of other announcements by FSL in the thread on their forum regarding P3D V4 updates.

1: The next product is the 319. They would not give a release estimate, but considering that the 319 is quite close to the 320 size, performance and systems-wise, I would think that one is pretty far along already.

2. There is another aircraft in the pipeline too. Lefteris wouldn't give any details other than to say that it will "hold more fuel" than the 320. I am thinking it might be the 330, which would be sweet indeed!

He didn't give any other info other than that one hint.

I'm quite certain that Aerosoft's 330 will be out much sooner, and will undoubtedly be of the same caliber as their nice A318-321 series - but the thought of a possible FSL 330 with the same depth as their 320 is very intriguing!

I think you are right that they have begun the development of the a330, that was my guess as well based on that comment. Note how he said it holds more fuel than the a320 series, implying that this new plane is not in the a320 family