v4 Early Impressons

[fluffyflops 1,856]

As a guy said in another post,  it's a dinosaur of a sim they are selling to various defence agency's. 

1 hour ago, bean_sprout said:

I'm glad everyone is jumping on the V4 bandwagon - Since I just got V3.4 I'll sit it out (and learn) a few months.

 

Cheers

bs

Let them mate.  let them buy it and beta test it as normal then wait till 4.2 comes out by that time there might be some worthwhile addons for it

[XMAN 12]

1 hour ago, cnarvaez said:

Sadly, the terrain data hasn't been updated...  LM is well aware of the terrain issues in South America.  My home airport (SKCL/CLO - Cali's Alfonso Bonilla Aragon Int'l airport) is placed 1000 ft below it's real location, and that data error wasn't fixed in v4.  LM claimed that among the new features of v4, they have "Regions of updated Airport & Terrain Data".

Since a picture is worth more than a thousand words, here's how SKCL looks with FreeMeshX....  This issue can be fixed with ORBX Vector, so I'll have to wait until they update their installers in order to fly to/from my home airport....

 

Overall, v4 looks great and it performs a lot better than v3 (did a quick test flight last night)...   Hopefully the LM guys will release a fix to the terrain data in the near future...

I dont think im gonna buy it  if i did then it will be 3 times that i bought FSX, that looks the same as FSX

[Pivot 153]

To me, it seems almost like V3 w/64 bit. Running mid graphic levels 2048 textures very dense and dense autogen using the piper almost identical. I can't seem to activate the frame counter though, tried shift-z or button neither brings up the info.

[cnarvaez 0]

8 minutes ago, XMAN said:

I dont think im gonna buy it  if i did then it will be 3 times that i bought FSX, that looks the same as FSX

The picture I uploaded is with default settings, no sliders were modified at all...   Give it a try, I'm sure you won't regret it....

[Boeing or not going 578]

If I turn off terrain shadows and dynamic reflections I can run every other slider at max including autogen buildings and vegetation. terrain shadows cripples my fps to single digits in a big city. I have a 3930k oc'ed to 4ghz 16gb ram nvidia titan and one ssd for os and an ssd for flightsim.

[AviatorMoser 353]

6 hours ago, cnarvaez said:

Sadly, the terrain data hasn't been updated...  LM is well aware of the terrain issues in South America.  My home airport (SKCL/CLO - Cali's Alfonso Bonilla Aragon Int'l airport) is placed 1000 ft below it's real location, and that data error wasn't fixed in v4.  LM claimed that among the new features of v4, they have "Regions of updated Airport & Terrain Data".

Since a picture is worth more than a thousand words, here's how SKCL looks with FreeMeshX....  This issue can be fixed with ORBX Vector, so I'll have to wait until they update their installers in order to fly to/from my home airport....

 

Overall, v4 looks great and it performs a lot better than v3 (did a quick test flight last night)...   Hopefully the LM guys will release a fix to the terrain data in the near future...

1000' off....I really feel for those who in South America. These mistakes have been rolled through each release for over a decade without a fix.

[gboz 157]

14 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

I would be interested to know how effective the new high end AA settings are (8x SSAA etc) at eliminating shimmering and flickering. I have to use 4x SGSS and 8xS AA (with 16x AF) in P3D v3 to reduce this to a comfortable level, but this does have an impact on framerates to some extent.

Technically x4 SGSS should only be used with x4 MSAA. Likewise with x2-x2 and x8-x8. You could be creating an unnecessary performance hit by using 8xS. ??

gb.

[davidzill 8]

I'm new to Prepar3d. I have FSX acceleration, getting 60 FPS @ cruise and 30 at addon airports with Pmdg aircraft. 4.9ghz i7, (2) 1080 GTX's 16 gab ram, I can't get above 30fps in prepar3d even with sliders all the way to the left. You guys raving about how amazing prepar3d is, please enlighten me how you get it to perform so flawlessly, because right now FSX is performing far more superior. I know it's not about high FPS, but anything below 30, even without stutters, looks horrendous when you are in an aircraft traveling at several hundred knots; you can literally count frames

 

[Boeing or not going 578]

21 minutes ago, davidzill said:

I'm new to Prepar3d. I have FSX acceleration, getting 60 FPS @ cruise and 30 at addon airports with Pmdg aircraft. 4.9ghz i7, (2) 1080 GTX's 16 gab ram, I can't get above 30fps in prepar3d even with sliders all the way to the left. You guys raving about how amazing prepar3d is, please enlighten me how you get it to perform so flawlessly, because right now FSX is performing far more superior. I know it's not about high FPS, but anything below 30, even without stutters, looks horrendous when you are in an aircraft traveling at several hundred knots; you can literally count frames

 

In Nvidia Inspector turn off shadercache for the p3d profile. Single display performance. Prefer max performance.

This is my cfg I disabled shadows and dynamic lights it helps

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[Boeing or not going 578]

after posting that confidently my autogen all disappeared on approach after a 2 hour flight.

[ashepherd316 63]

22 hours ago, ahsmatt7 said:

It's the first iteration of 64 bit for this platform. You are more than aware of the updates Lockheed Martin releases for p3d. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't start upgrading graphics in subsequent releases. V4 sounds like a test bed to see how 64 bit goes. Also, it's not the same engine as xplane 11.

 

Be patient.

I hope you are right but i can not remember the graphics getting much better in v3 as they released updates but for now i shall not be buying v4 until i see a major improvement.

[Boeing or not going 578]

3 hours ago, ashepherd316 said:

I hope you are right but i can not remember the graphics getting much better in v3 as they released updates but for now i shall not be buying v4 until i see a major improvement.

I see better visuals and less performance hit from autogen, and no OOM ever again, that alone is worth it for me as I come from FSX where I would OOM flying any PMDG aircraft into Orbx regions like NCA or SCA.

[DaveCT2003 1,820]

On 5/31/2017 at 5:03 PM, Pivot said:

I can't seem to activate the frame counter though, tried shift-z or button neither brings up the info.

Hmm, it works for me.  Are you running P3DV4 "As Admin?

 

[Boomer 1,619]

On Thursday, June 01, 2017 at 1:01 AM, gboz said:

Technically x4 SGSS should only be used with x4 MSAA. Likewise with x2-x2 and x8-x8. You could be creating an unnecessary performance hit by using 8xS. ??

gb.

Is this correct. ..anyone verify.

[Boeing or not going 578]

5 minutes ago, DaveCT2003 said:

Hmm, it works for me.  Are you running P3DV4 "As Admin?

 

or they unchecked the on screen text option in the menu