Hey, NICE supercomputer! And you say P3D V4 runs well? Wow!

[Bobsk8 12,489]

9 hours ago, TheFlightSimGuy said:

At least FSW looks a little different for the frame rate. P3D looks the same as FSX and performs worse. But I dont care, its the best we have until FSW progresses or X-Plane does something big. 

You are joking, aren't you? 

[Glynn 405]

12 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

You are joking, aren't you? 

No Bob, he's trolling as usual

[kurtb 118]

dont you know him by now---you should

[kevinfirth 1,392]

i7-7700k @ 4.8Ghz, 32Gb DDR4 3200  cas14, GTX 980Ti, 50" Hisense 4k TV - running in 4k, managed to get 5mins in before an area wide power failure last night - was looking at between 50-80fps with default aircraft all options maxed apart from dynamic reflections and dynamic autogen.  (The gpu was running at 100% though so could be limiting things). The autogen speedtrees kill performance..but seem to come enabled by default.

[spearmint_flyer 578]

12 hours ago, turner112 said:

Wow... slow unzip. This is like watching... a large file unzip.

 

You don't say. 😋

[Rick Flair 7]

11 hours ago, TheFlightSimGuy said:

At least FSW looks a little different for the frame rate. P3D looks the same as FSX and performs worse. But I dont care, its the best we have until FSW progresses or X-Plane does something big. 

I must admit, I kind of agree. Looking at the latest videos on V4 I am left extremely un-inspired. The textures have the same colourless, lifeless even, feel that FSX had/has. A texture upgrade wouldn't hurt. 

[CrownCityMisfits 58]

4 hours ago, Rick Flair said:

I must admit, I kind of agree. Looking at the latest videos on V4 I am left extremely un-inspired. The textures have the same colourless, lifeless even, feel that FSX had/has. A texture upgrade wouldn't hurt. 

There's a reason FTX Global exists.

[TheFlightSimGuy 514]

8 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

You are joking, aren't you? 

8 hours ago, Glynn said:

No Bob, he's trolling as usual

No you two. An opposite opinion doesn't immediately make someone a "troll". Don't be so quick to use that phrase when others are critical of sims you want to praise, especially you Bob, who was rampant before FSW was even released.

With that said, I am a P3D user, have been for years, and will likely be for about the next year or so. But this is not what a flight sim revival looks like. It is the same thing it has been since 2.5 with the exception of cloud shadows, the water, and 64 bit. Yes we have some new GPU usage improvement (make no mistake the sim isnt faster, its just more hardware balanced).  But what else do we really have to show for the last 10 years of stagnation? I am not trolling, I am being honest about how I feel about spending $200 on this. 

6 hours ago, Rick Flair said:

I must admit, I kind of agree. Looking at the latest videos on V4 I am left extremely un-inspired. The textures have the same colourless, lifeless even, feel that FSX had/has. A texture upgrade wouldn't hurt. 

Glad I am not the only one. At least DTG did something we havent seen before. And they did it in 64 bit first. LM is more open, so the devs flock to it, but it is not the sim we honestly "want" to look at. 

[TheFlightSimGuy 514]

As someone who knows the consequences of bad medical advice, I think I will avoid taking legal counsel on the internet Karsten. The point is not the money, its the value and the appropriateness of the platform in todays market.  

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[Farlis 2,276]

1 minute ago, TheFlightSimGuy said:

The point is not the money, its the value and the appropriateness of the platform in todays market.  

To that I can only say that I agree and disagree with your points at the same time.

I agree because the base package of P3D hasn't improved considerably over the last decade. Compared to the newer iterations of for example XP it looks like ######.

I disagree because as a basic OS for a simming platform it is unrivaled. No other platform offers this much capability to be improved through add-ons. That is worth quite a lot to me.

[HiFlyer 9,332]

9 hours ago, Glynn said:

No Bob, he's trolling as usual

It's getting really old on this forum, that people keep yanking the world troll out at the drop of a hat. And troll apparently now means anyone who makes a statement somebody else disagrees with.

I feel like I'm watching the forum getting slowly herded towards severe groupthink on certain subjects.

[CrownCityMisfits 58]

12 minutes ago, Farlis said:

No other platform offers this much capability to be improved through add-ons. 

Some people think that's a negative because addons get quite expensive. It's understandable to want your sim to shine right out of the box.

But I agree with you and think it's a positive. I prefer an open market when it comes to sim features. Competition amongst 3rd party devs results in the consumer having a wide variety of quality options. Furthermore, LM can focus more on core code than superficial improvements.

I will be sticking with P3D for the foreseeable future. Onward!

[TechguyMaxC 516]

What's the point of complaining about default textures when we ALL go out and buy replacement textures (ORBX Global or various regional texture packs)?  That's the whole point of a platform.  You're not limited by its out-of-box configuration.  

[TheFlightSimGuy 514]

1 hour ago, Farlis said:

I disagree because as a basic OS for a simming platform it is unrivaled. No other platform offers this much capability to be improved through add-ons. That is worth quite a lot to me.

Make no mistake, I dont disagree with that statement. It is indeed the most powerful. But think about that, we use really a fraction of the sims capability, because most  of its features are not designed for the kind of simming we need as entertainment users. However, we have created an ecosystem to exist well within that framework and have tolerated it for far too long. 

It was asked by some devs what we want to see in the future, and no one said 90% of what is in this changelog. Yet we see XP (which I do not own) enhancing the sim with modern tech like you see in AAA video games and FSW, like it or hate it, has a early access spec sheet that looks frankly gorgeous in the right conditions out of the box.

Meanwhile, all we got in P3D was 64 bit and a slighting intriguing light system. P3D is the best we have right now, as I said, I will continue to use it likely for about another year, then it will be on to the "next gen".

[WarpD 824]

Unless a miracle happens and DTG suddenly learns how to write games as well as Rockstar... FSW is never going to be the sim you think it is going to be.  Ever.

 

P.S.  - It's also not actually possible, but... hey... dream on!