WOAI traffic in P3D v4

[atco 161]

Yes FAIB and FSP models all work flawlessly as they are fully native. AIA also released an FSX model update pack here in the library they also work.

Don't despair there are large scale efforts within the AI community to update as many models as possible. Doing it properly takes a bit of time though.

Just a word too about these AI packages. As things stand only WOAI are authorised by almost all freeware authors to use their works. Anything else currently is pirateware.

The sad thing is nobody ever asks, if someone who wanted to create one of these packages by co-operation with and working with the freeware AI community we would happily talk about it just like WOAI did. But nobody ever bothers they would just rather rip off.

[jason99vmi 157]

4 hours ago, atco said:

Yes FAIB and FSP models all work flawlessly as they are fully native. AIA also released an FSX model update pack here in the library they also work.

Don't despair there are large scale efforts within the AI community to update as many models as possible. Doing it properly takes a bit of time though.

Just a word too about these AI packages. As things stand only WOAI are authorised by almost all freeware authors to use their works. Anything else currently is pirateware.

The sad thing is nobody ever asks, if someone who wanted to create one of these packages by co-operation with and working with the freeware AI community we would happily talk about it just like WOAI did. But nobody ever bothers they would just rather rip off.

That's awesome news!  I don't like the payware AI packages.  And AIFP makes updating everything a snap. 

Yeah someone in my VA once said "what's wrong with someone just doing the work to update and repackage these AI?"  I said nothing is wrong with it.  IF they sent an email and got permission from the AI model makers and the people who originally created the packages.  But like you said they never do.  Takes 30 secs to write an email!  lol.  

 

[ZKOKQ 984]

11 hours ago, Mr_LoL said:

I've received the links (quick guy) downloading now. 

Ay feedack on this ?

[Mitritch 1]

Right now, there is an effort on Alpha India Group forums, to migrate all  models to FSX format in a legal way, which can be used by everybody. You can read about its progress and struggles here: 

http://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=25472.0

[vgbaron 3,620]

45 minutes ago, Travelling_Wilbury said:

Ay feedack on this ?

Since the product was determined to be using models without permission - all links have been removed. Further discussion of an illegal product will not be allowed.

Thanx!

[ZKOKQ 984]

6 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

Since the product was determined to be using models without permission - all links have been removed. Further discussion of an illegal product will not be allowed.

Thanx!

Fair enough Vic.and rightly so.

[onurair 24]

Did anyone manage to run the AirTrafficManager?

I installed the relevant simconnects but had no luck... Propably it's time to try FSUIPC to manage the amount of AI traffic since it's heavy on fps with max settings.

[Seat* 53]

The development release will work in v4. At left of the site

http://stuff4fs.com/open.asp?Folder=AIFP&JS=TRUE

/Thomas

[onurair 24]

1 hour ago, Seat* said:

The development release will work in v4. At left of the site

http://stuff4fs.com/open.asp?Folder=AIFP&JS=TRUE

/Thomas

I guess that's the tool to edit flightplans and so on. What I mean is the AirTrafficManager (AirTraffic Optimizer) to reduce the traffic.

See this thread: 

 

[jabloomf1230 2,445]

Just use FSUIPC 5 to optimize AI Traffic.

[onurair 24]

16 minutes ago, jabloomf1230 said:

Just use FSUIPC 5 to optimize AI Traffic.

Does the free version has this option enabled or only the payware?

[threexgreen 3,139]

5 hours ago, onurair said:

I guess that's the tool to edit flightplans and so on. What I mean is the AirTrafficManager (AirTraffic Optimizer) to reduce the traffic.

See this thread: 

 

I've been using this too with v3. However, John from Orbx said AI and road traffic have been optimized and no longer hit on the frame rate.

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Forget VAS and OOMs, and FPS is excellent (see the FPS counters in some shots above with all sliders maxxed). Furthermore, AI and road traffic has been super optimised without no FPS impact so you can roads and skies filled to the brim.

http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/135405-prepar3d-v4-64bit-orbx-preview-4k-screenshots/

[onurair 24]

2 minutes ago, Canuck said:

I've been using this too with v3. However, John from Orbx said AI and road traffic have been optimized and no longer hit on the frame rate.

http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/135405-prepar3d-v4-64bit-orbx-preview-4k-screenshots/

Well road traffic is definetly, I can crank it up to 80% without performance loss. But things change when using AI air traffic. I have a huge loss at settings around 50%.
So either we find a way to use traffic optimizer or FSUIPC is the tool to go with v4.

[Clutch Cargo 384]

Just to answer OP's original question, no, WOAI as it stands does not work in P3Dv4.  Missing under-carriage, black textures, invisible aircraft.

Awesome to hear developers they are working to update their aircraft.  Let's give them all the encouragement and support we can guys to give them motivation.

Oh, and about no impact on FPS... definately better with road AI and alot smoother but air traffic is still a big hit.  Tried a payware and it dropped my FPS by 10!  Come-on WOAI when we need you, ha!

Clutch

[threexgreen 3,139]

17 minutes ago, onurair said:

Well road traffic is definetly, I can crank it up to 80% without performance loss. But things change when using AI air traffic. I have a huge loss at settings around 50%.
So either we find a way to use traffic optimizer or FSUIPC is the tool to go with v4.

FSUIPC will work fine no doubt.

7 minutes ago, Clutch Cargo said:

but air traffic is still a big hit.  Tried a payware and it dropped my FPS by 10!

That's a bummer. I don't have v4 yet but everyone was on about AI traffic having been 'super-optimized'...