Pmdg Rain Effects P3d V4

[aussiesim737 3]

6 minutes ago, Paul_Smith said:

Are you sure it has been left out? Perhaps you just haven't fund the UI toggle yet? LM are pretty adamant that it is one of the key new features of P3D v4. 

 

 

yeah that feature is the over all particle effect of the snow and rain system for the simulator, this does not include the windshield effect we are talking about.  I think some people were under the belief the New 3D rain/snow system was implying windshield rain effects.

[wedgantilles 76]

It deifinitely is present you can play around with it the options is just where they said in their news. The previous rain was just the same effect what ever the wind direction/speed was. With this new version the rain actually changes depending on the wind strength and directions.

So as said by other it's nothing with the windshhield rain, and I believe it still is not possible due to the same reason thn before, that it would eat up on things they need to render the complex cockpit of their jets. PMDG knows how to do it as the JetStream had it, but it had a much less complex cockpit that allowed it.

In FSW sure there is a rain on windshield but they also only have GA aircrafts and it seems not working near the reality, from a couple of test I did it seem on the ground it falls down the windshield while in the air it goes upward supposedly due to airstream. But I think in the reality it would be dependent on the airflow and that with the single engine at full throttle even not moving the airflow should impact the rain on the windshied.

[vin747 316]

Just to throw some spice into the mix: (fast forward to 5 min to see rain effects)

(p.s - rain effects start 5 mins into the video)

The above video shows what's possible in a 64-bit sim if you modeled everything correctly.. the video shows not just VC rain drops, but heavy rain battering the windshield, and the wipers keep scrubbing them off, but rain keeps lashing on the screen.. if this is not immersion, i dont know what is!

So, i don't take FPS as an excuse for not having VC rain.. Other sims have it and the video above is a study level heavy duty aircraft that has VC rain.. 

[wedgantilles 76]

29 minutes ago, vin747 said:

The above video shows what's possible in a 64-bit sim if you modeled everything correctly.. the video shows not just VC rain drops, but heavy rain battering the windshield, and the wipers keep scrubbing them off, but rain keeps lashing on the screen.. if this is not immersion, i dont know what is!

So, i don't take FPS as an excuse for not having VC rain.. Other sims have it and the video above is a study level heavy duty aircraft that has VC rain.. 

It has really nothing to do with 64 bits. It has to do with the simulator limitations you need the simulator to provide technology that makes it possible to do raineffects. On the current FSX/P3D engines those are simply textures that makes it, but it takes animations out of the maximum number of animations, which one big aircraft makes it impossible unless you sacrifice other important things.

Honestly in the video the effect looks nice but I think it is completely unrealistic, I highly doubt that at more than 200 kmh the rain just gets on the window and stays just like "dots" which is shown on the video. With the speed there should be "rays" of water, even more as I believe the fornt windhield are water repelent.

[aentwis 61]

I agree with you Aurelien, I know what I see in my car at 160km/h and faster when it is raining. The droplets stream across the windscreen in the airflow across the windshield. That effect is not visible here at all when the rain stops. The shield would dry rather quickly in a 220KTAS airstream...

Andrew

[anden145 2,273]

1 hour ago, vin747 said:

Just to throw some spice into the mix: (fast forward to 5 min to see rain effects)

(p.s - rain effects start 5 mins into the video)

The above video shows what's possible in a 64-bit sim if you modeled everything correctly.. the video shows not just VC rain drops, but heavy rain battering the windshield, and the wipers keep scrubbing them off, but rain keeps lashing on the screen.. if this is not immersion, i dont know what is!

So, i don't take FPS as an excuse for not having VC rain.. Other sims have it and the video above is a study level heavy duty aircraft that has VC rain.. 

You do realize, that the above video you've linked to, is from X-Plane. Not FSX/P3D, right?

[vin747 316]

Yes, i know it is from XP11.. I participate in their forums like 24/7.. 

But the point of the video is to demonstrate what kind of cool effects you can make if you have a modern sim.. don't get hung up on "oh the droplets will look different at 200 kmph".. well, you have no droplets at all in P3D, do you?  what's the point of having ultra advanced ActiveSky for weather modeling when basic things like VC rain are not modeled? Seems silly to me.. after all, FS9 had it. 

Complaining about the droplet modeling, sounds like "grapes are sour" argument to me.. get the droplets first in P3D and then we can talk about how to better model them.. 

Anyway, i brought this up to the aerosoft guys as well, and they said if P3D makes a universal option for VC rain, they will adopt it.. I think P3D should do it, since even arcade sims like FSW have it.. 

[Captain Kevin 586]

1 hour ago, aentwis said:

I know what I see in my car at 160km/h and faster when it is raining.

I just Googled the conversion. Where do you live that you can actually drive that fast.

[pete_auau 1,152]

Germany  is one  place  you can  travel that fast, you  can  drive  as  fast  as  you like   as  long  as  you  don't  get  caught:0

[harvester21 34]

Its not about not getting caught. There is simply no speed limit here in Germany on certain stretches of highway. There where there are speed limits people mostly stick to those limits because fines are quite high if caught. Also you lose points on the license, and when you lose enough points, you lose the license for a period of time.

[Captain Kevin 586]

11 minutes ago, harvester21 said:

Also you lose points on the license, and when you lose enough points, you lose the license for a period of time.

LOSE points?!?!?!?! How many points do you start off with. I'm only curious because around here, you don't start off with any points, so if you start GETTING points on your license, that's not good. Other than that, same basic principle that if you have too many points on your license, your license gets suspended.

[harvester21 34]

You're right Kevin, 

You gain points. 8 being the max.

[wedgantilles 76]

29 minutes ago, Captain Kevin said:

LOSE points?!?!?!?! How many points do you start off with. I'm only curious because around here, you don't start off with any points, so if you start GETTING points on your license, that's not good. Other than that, same basic principle that if you have too many points on your license, your license gets suspended.

Depends on the county I guess, in France it is the same we start with 6 points as a young driver and after three years you have the normal 12 points, and if you lose them all you lose your licence.

[warbirds 555]

So if you lose your license do you still get rain effects on your windscreen? 

[harvester21 34]

18 minutes ago, warbirds said:

So if you lose your license do you still get rain effects on your windscreen? 

 

Hahaha!