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Navdata EDDF ILZ Z Rwy 25L

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I flew the NGX into EDDF this morning on the ILS Z Rwy 25.  My Navigraph and Navigraph charts are up to date. The approach on the plate showed a long, even downwind with a squared off base to final.  In the FMS it was a lot different with a completely different shape and completely different fixes.  I'm not at my sim so I can't provide a screenshot, unfortunately.  Is anyone else seeing this? 


Gregg Seipp

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Hi,

Which STAR did you select? If you selected a conventionnelle STAR ending at the IAF MTR or CHA, then they are followed by "short" ILS Z 25L/ILS Z 25R/ILS 25.

The "square-shape" procedures are RNAV transitions ROLLIS 25N/S, KERAX 25N/S and PSA 25N/S which follow the STAR RNAV leading to the these waypoints.

I found the Lido a bit confusing at first with the different procedures superposed but once you have done several approaches you eventually get used with it.


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1 hour ago, Budbud said:

Which STAR did you select? If you selected a conventionnelle STAR ending at the IAF MTR or CHA, then they are followed by "short" ILS Z 25L/ILS Z 25R/ILS 25.

The "square-shape" procedures are RNAV transitions ROLLIS 25N/S, KERAX 25N/S and PSA 25N/S which follow the STAR RNAV leading to the these waypoints.

I found the Lido a bit confusing at first with the different procedures superposed but once you have done several approaches you eventually get used with it.

I think I get your point.  I was flying the UNOK2B which ends at CHA.  Looks like it does turn to a short ILS.  So, on the ILS Z 25L it appears there's a built-in set of STARs?...that feeds into the square ILZ Z 25L approach?  I'll have to look for that in the FMS.

 


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