[P3D v4] Slow loading

[simtom 495]

Hello,

I recently switched from FSX: SE to P3D v4 and I'm still playing around with the settings. I did notice however that P3D loads up much slower then FSX: SE (which has more addons installed). 
Loading time is 2 minutes and then another 30 seconds to initialize.

The add-ons that I currently use with P3D are:
- ENVTEX
- FTX Global
- FTX openLC NA
- URP v1.1

I've also included my settings. I hope someone can clear things up for me as to why the loading times have increased significantly (I guess this probably has to do with the high resolution textures?).

Video (skip to 2:05 to see the initialization):

 

Settings:

 

Scenery library:

[Jim Young 2,356]

See the AVSIM CTD Guide (V4.0 to be released shortly) and follow the directions to set up Process Monitor to monitor only P3DV4.  Once completed, you should be able to see exactly what is loading.  I plan to do the same thing shortly when I find time as my loading times are long too (to the setup screen).

Best regards,

Jim

[simtom 495]

5 minutes ago, Jim Young said:

See the AVSIM CTD Guide (V4.0 to be released shortly) and follow the directions to set up Process Monitor to monitor only P3DV4.  Once completed, you should be able to see exactly what is loading.  I plan to do the same thing shortly when I find time as my loading times are long too (to the setup screen).

Best regards,

Jim

Hello Jim,

Thank you for the tip. I'll try that tomorrow and report back.

[Lenny777 299]

I take it this is not loading from an SSD?

[simtom 495]

Just now, Lenny777 said:

I take it this is not loading from an SSD?

No, it's not. I'm using a WD Black for all my games and simulators.

[Lenny777 299]

Just now, simtom said:

No, it's not. I'm using a WD Black for all my games and simulators.

I'm loading from an WD as well and similar load times. Dang I wish those SSDs would come down in cost!

[Jim Young 2,356]

10 minutes ago, Lenny777 said:

I take it this is not loading from an SSD?

Mine is loading from a Samsung M.2 NVMe 960 EVO SSD, one of the fastest SSD's on the market (if still not the fastest).

Best regards,

Jim

[W2DR 1,859]

56 minutes ago, Lenny777 said:

I'm loading from an WD as well and similar load times. Dang I wish those SSDs would come down in cost!

I, and others, are also seeing the same long load times using SSD drives. Go figure..........

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[1st fltsimguy 466]

You know I've noticed what when I load up P3DV4 first time for the day, it takes a long time to spool up, but if I shut it down and tinker with some addon or something then boot up the sim again, its a lot quicker the second time around.

[Olmba 27]

If you have enable TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=10 (4096 TEXTURE SIZE) and/or have installed AI aircraft, it will influence the loading heavily.

Now and then I have to delete p3d.cfg  and the sim goes back to normal, try and see if that's help?

 

 

 

[AnkH 2,230]

This: TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=10. I only use "9", which I consider sufficient on my rig and it basically doubled loading times. For some sceneries such as Switzerland Professional X, it even takes four times (!) longer to load now (I guess cause this is a photoscenery as basis).

[simtom 495]

1 hour ago, AnkH said:

This: TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=10. I only use "9", which I consider sufficient on my rig and it basically doubled loading times. For some sceneries such as Switzerland Professional X, it even takes four times (!) longer to load now (I guess cause this is a photoscenery as basis).

I haven't added that line to my config, is it something you would recommend?

Something else I've noticed as well are these stutters. I know there's a thread about that but I'm not sure if I'm having the same stutters:

 

[KenG 492]

13 hours ago, simtom said:

Hello,

I recently switched from FSX: SE to P3D v4 and I'm still playing around with the settings. I did notice however that P3D loads up much slower then FSX: SE (which has more addons installed). 
Loading time is 2 minutes and then another 30 seconds to initialize... 

1

Makes perfect sense to me. It is a 64bit app which means it is capable of and does load more into RAM. Loading twice to three times as much into RAM has to come into play somewhere. 

Considering it take 10 to 15 minutes to load our FFS Level D simulator at work, 2.5 minutes is more than tolerable. Go make a cup of coffee.

[simtom 495]

2 minutes ago, KenG said:

Makes perfect sense to me. It is a 64bit app which means it is capable of and does load more into RAM. Loading twice to three times as much into RAM has to come into play somewhere. 

Considering it take 10 to 15 minutes to load our FFS Level D simulator at work, 2.5 minutes is more than tolerable. Go make a cup of coffee.

Yeah, that makes sense. 2.5 minutes seems reasonable then ;)

[simtom 495]

On 6/18/2017 at 11:57 PM, Jim Young said:

See the AVSIM CTD Guide (V4.0 to be released shortly) and follow the directions to set up Process Monitor to monitor only P3DV4.  Once completed, you should be able to see exactly what is loading.  I plan to do the same thing shortly when I find time as my loading times are long too (to the setup screen).

Best regards,

Jim

I did setup the Process Monitor and it looks like Orbx is causing the long loading times, especially the Libraries.