No external lights illuminating ground when dynamic lighting disabled

[Ioan92 63]

33 minutes ago, Cargostorm said:

Try 2x MSAA in the sim and 2x SGSS in the Nvidia Inspector. That should help without making dynamic lighting on a slide show.

Try 8x MSAA + either 8x Supersampling or 2x Sparse Grid Supersampling in the inspector and turn on Nvidia FXAA.

Then fire up Photoshop, get the DDS tool and batch add mipmaps to all your textures.

[stufer 30]

3 hours ago, Cargostorm said:

Try 2x MSAA in the sim and 2x SGSS in the Nvidia Inspector. That should help without making dynamic lighting on a slide show.

Thanks for that suggestion Chris, I'll certainly give it a try. I haven't tried using NI with this sim yet so it may be worth having a look at some of the settings in there.

Cheers

Stu

[Cargostorm 151]

23 minutes ago, stufer said:

Thanks for that suggestion Chris, I'll certainly give it a try. I haven't tried using NI with this sim yet so it may be worth having a look at some of the settings in there.

Cheers

Stu

At least with my setup it is a good compromise. I have still texture shimmering, but not as bad as with 8x MSAA alone and not an fps impact as with any of the SSAA modes.

[Butleger 3]

Hello dear!

I understand that paid not a lot of money to demand the fulfillment of all my wishes.But... Agree that the right decision for the PMDG team, if they gave us Simmern, choice. If anyone uses dynamic light, please, here such textures. Do not use - other textures. And there would be no problems. Frankly, I don't want to dance shamanic dances with a tambourine, changing MSAA and SSAA...

Not all have top-end computers, and the product from PMDG is really nice and the bulk is very popular.

Please, listen to us, the users of Your great product. And that is to fly only in the afternoon... Which is not good for us.

[gboz 157]

So us SSAA, SGAA users now seem to have the choice of a black runway
or low teen FPS. Wonderful.

gb.

[Ioan92 63]

I agree with the both of you, this is a poor design choice. What happened to the lighting system used on the FSX 777 anyway? There was nothing wrong with it. You could increase the price of the addon to 200$ and add support for non dynamic lights and I would buy it. Again.

[PMDG777 231]

1 hour ago, gboz said:

So us SSAA, SGAA users now seem to have the choice of a black runway
or low teen FPS. Wonderful.

gb.

Or not use SSAA like the majority of others, and have a lit up runway and good performance

[Ioan92 63]

21 minutes ago, PMDG777 said:

Or not use SSAA like the majority of others, and have a lit up runway and good performance

Eh, the lighting is pretty dim anyway. Guess having it all dark isn't such a disaster.

[anden145 2,285]

Basically you have the following options:

• Dynamic Lighting
• SSAA setting
• Good performance

You can only choose two of them at a time.

Take your pick... I'm not sure, that I agree with the term 'poor design choice'. They've made this on purpose and I suspect there's a reason why they've scrapped the old system in favor of the new.
There must be a reason why it's not possible to incorporate both systems. My guess would be, that it likely would mean two different models and base-texture sets. That would drive up the download size of the aircraft considerably. I'm certain that they didn't made the choice just so they could antagonize their customers... 

This whole discussion reminds me of the AA + Clouds + bad performance, which has intensely discussed some time ago... 

[JoeFackel 760]

I'm having an other issue regarding dynamic lightning: yesterday i installed the NGX and made a short check. I'm using EZDOK and TrackIR and when i turn the head the dynamic lightning of the landing lights, taxi lights etc. seems to turn off in different angles.

Will do further tests but maybe someone else has also seen this.

[gboz 157]

7 hours ago, Ioan92 said:

Eh, the lighting is pretty dim anyway. Guess having it all dark isn't such a disaster.

Yes I agree, its quite dark.

gb.

[Butleger 3]

By the way, the default aircraft in P3D v4 present external lights illuminating ground when dynamic lighting is disabled. Why PMDG team does not give us a choice?

[Terblanche 28]

On 7/12/2017 at 6:59 PM, Anders Bermann said:

I'm using 2xMSAA with no FXAA... 

Do you have a 4K monitor ...?

[LRW 42]

On 7/13/2017 at 9:19 AM, JoeFackel said:

I'm having an other issue regarding dynamic lightning: yesterday i installed the NGX and made a short check. I'm using EZDOK and TrackIR and when i turn the head the dynamic lightning of the landing lights, taxi lights etc. seems to turn off in different angles.

Will do further tests but maybe someone else has also seen this.

Yes, this happened to me today.  I landed at KMSP 30L and had no illumination of the runway.  When I turned off onto the taxiway the ground was partially illuminated but the landing light on the right side would blink off and on.  I switched to an external view and the landing light went dark each time the anti-collision light blinked on.  It was like the anti-collision light was trying to cast a shadow that was overriding the landing light.  At a different place (passing terminal B on the way to C) with only the taxi light, the ground wasn't illuminated unless I switched to an external view and panned around toward the front of the aircraft. When I panned toward the back the ground went dark again.  I shut down for the night and didn't try any variations of settings.

[PMDG777 231]

20 minutes ago, LRW said:

Yes, this happened to me today.  I landed at KMSP 30L and had no illumination of the runway.  When I turned off onto the taxiway the ground was partially illuminated but the landing light on the right side would blink off and on.  I switched to an external view and the landing light went dark each time the anti-collision light blinked on.  It was like the anti-collision light was trying to cast a shadow that was overriding the landing light.  At a different place (passing terminal B on the way to C) with only the taxi light, the ground wasn't illuminated unless I switched to an external view and panned around toward the front of the aircraft. When I panned toward the back the ground went dark again.  I shut down for the night and didn't try any variations of settings.

Hmm  I've never seen that before. Was this at a third party scenery or a default airport? Is it the same at default?