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I am ready to start building a new PC for my P3Dv4 and FSX-SE.

Here's what I'm looking at, so far:

CPU - Intel I7-7700K  with Corsair Water Cooler H55

MoBo - Gigabyte AORUS GA-Z270X-Gaming K7

Mem - 16GB (2x8) G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4 3000

Video card - EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 8GB
                             or
                  - ASUS ROG Strix GTX 1080 8GB 11GBps
                             or
                 - Gogabyte GTX 1080 Extreme, Water Cooled

Drives - 32gb Optane + 3TB HD (any performance brand).

Power - Corsair CX750M 750W

I'm still debating video card option, the three listed are all similar in performance and price.

Or should I go all out and get the 1080ti. Is it worth the $100 plus extra cost?

Any suggestions, critiques or suggestions welcome.

I'm not planning any huge overclocking, but will play around with some moderate ones.


Pete S.

10th gen CPU I7-10700K, MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge MB, RAM 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB-DDR4 3600, 

2X 1TB Sabrent Rocket Q M.2 Nvme SSD. Enermax RGB CPU Liquid Cooler.(Still waiting on Evga RTX 3080 Video)

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I'm surprised that no one has commented on your post yet. I recently bought a pre-built system from Cyberpower (via Amazon) that comes close to matching your specs above.

However, I have 32GB of DD4 system RAM, and have a 1080Ti 11GB VRAM. I've found that the 7700k with a base rate of 4.2 will automatically kick into high gear (so to speak) with an approximate 5+ clock speed when running P3Dv4 or other high-demand software.

IMO the extra cost for the 1080Ti is money well spent, as the extra video memory really lets me kick up the graphics options a lot higher! :biggrin:


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Bill,

I stayed with the EVGA 1070 FTW with my 7700k because I wanted to stay on air and don't overclock.  The one thing I think is important is having a big enough power supply so I went with an 850 watt Corsair power supply.  I feel that my Noctua NH-U95 will run almost as cool as water without the added overhead.  :smile:

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3 hours ago, n4gix said:

I've found that the 7700k with a base rate of 4.2 will automatically kick into high gear (so to speak) with an approximate 5+ clock speed when running P3Dv4 or other high-demand software.

If you're not overclocking it (that is, running it at its base frequency of 4.2 GHz), according to Intel the max turbo frequency for the 7700K is only 4.50 GHz. How are you getting 5+ GHz?


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20 hours ago, vortex681 said:

If you're not overclocking it (that is, running it at its base frequency of 4.2 GHz), according to Intel the max turbo frequency for the 7700K is only 4.50 GHz. How are you getting 5+ GHz?

Sorry, I forgot to include all the particulars. I have "MSI Afterburner" installed and handling everything for me automatically and dynamically. I don't actually have time to sit down and explore all of the manual options, but I'm throughly satisfied with the "default" configuration.

The only thing I've done is to adjust the fan speeds on the 1080Ti slightly to improve the cooling. Now the temperature is maxing out about 50ºC. Prior to my curve adjustments, temp would rise to 65-70ºC and the alarm would start screeching at me...


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On 26/07/2017 at 9:53 AM, n4gix said:

Sorry, I forgot to include all the particulars. I have "MSI Afterburner" installed and handling everything for me automatically and dynamically. I don't actually have time to sit down and explore all of the manual options, but I'm throughly satisfied with the "default" configuration.

The only thing I've done is to adjust the fan speeds on the 1080Ti slightly to improve the cooling. Now the temperature is maxing out about 50ºC. Prior to my curve adjustments, temp would rise to 65-70ºC and the alarm would start screeching at me...

Hey Bill, thinking about a 7700k-1080ti upgradd myself. What Cyberpower model did you buy? (Or if you could post a link)


13900K@5.8GHz - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR  HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)

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2 hours ago, odourboy said:

Hey Bill, thinking about a 7700k-1080ti upgradd myself. What Cyberpower model did you buy? (Or if you could post a link)

Here is a link to the model I bought. I note that it has increased in price by $200, perhaps due to the 1080Ti's increased costs?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XGXDXZF/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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Thanks Bill. After you posted the link I noticed your other thread discussing this PC . Looks encouraging. I don't think I could save more than a few hundred bucks building and equivalent machine and this is heck of a lot easier and less risky.


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On ‎7‎/‎25‎/‎2017 at 9:18 AM, n4gix said:

I'm surprised that no one has commented on your post yet. I recently bought a pre-built system from Cyberpower (via Amazon) that comes close to matching your specs above.

 

Thanks  Fr.Bill,

I was beginning to think that I smelled bad or something. :laugh:  I'm surprised the 'Auto Notify' system didn't notify me that someone noticed the post!

Is the extra RAM necessary for P3Dv4? Will it help any?

Thanks for the link to your Cyberpower PC (later in this thread), It is worth considering, I've always build my own PC's but as stated it can be a hassle at times. Perhaps a couple of extra bucks is worth spending, getting a turn key system and preserving what's left of my sanity.


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10th gen CPU I7-10700K, MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge MB, RAM 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB-DDR4 3600, 

2X 1TB Sabrent Rocket Q M.2 Nvme SSD. Enermax RGB CPU Liquid Cooler.(Still waiting on Evga RTX 3080 Video)

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"Drives - 32gb Optane + 3TB HD (any performance brand)."

 

Assuming your going 3TB for storage or placing photo and ORBX  on a separate drive then you you should consider going hybrid . I went sea gate and its perfect , performance is right in the middle between HD & SSD. Not much extra for the hybrid.

 

http://www.seagate.com/as/en/solutions/solid-state-hybrid/


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I'm afraid that Seagate has permanently lost my confidence after three 2 TB drives failed totally in less than three months of use.

In over three decades I've never had a Western Digital HD failure.


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1 minute ago, n4gix said:

I'm afraid that Seagate has permanently lost my confidence after three 2 TB drives failed totally in less than three months of use.

In over three decades I've never had a Western Digital HD failure.

I have 4 and use them because I live in Thailand and they are produced here so they are cheap but cant say I have had any problems and the free back up software that comes with them has saved my butt on multiple occasions :biggrin:


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I just pulled the trigger on this system:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230229&cm_re=cyberpowerpc_intel_core_i7-_-83-230-229-_-Product

CyberpowerPC Desktop Computer Gamer Panzer VR PRO 3770 Intel Core i7 7th Gen 7700K (4.20 GHz) 16 GB DDR4 3000, 3 TB HDD, 32 GB Optane Memory, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, Windows 10 Home 64-Bit

Very similar to the system proposed in th e OP. I was going back and forth and decided this system had a lot of bang for the buck. May decide to upgrade the PSU (currently 650W, likely a no-name) but with 3000 ddr4 and octane memory, should scream.


13900K@5.8GHz - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR  HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)

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On 7/14/2017 at 9:42 PM, Pete S said:

CPU - Intel I7-7700K  with Corsair Water Cooler H55

MoBo - Gigabyte AORUS GA-Z270X-Gaming K7

Mem - 16GB (2x8) G.Skill TridentZ RGB DDR4 3000

Video card -?????????

Drives - 32gb Optane + 3TB HD (any performance brand).

Power - Corsair CX750M 750W

 

OK after reading some posts and checking around I've decided to make some changes to the original list:

Instead of Corsair H55 go with H60 Hydro Cooler

Instead of Asus MB I decided to go with MSI Z270 Gaming M5 MB

Memory will be G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4 3000

Video Card will be EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 TI SC2 Hybrid Gaming

I'll skip the Optane and Use an extra Samsung 250GB SSD that I already have , I don't think Optane will give me enough of a bang for P3Dv4, and I don't really want to put FS on the Boot Drive. I can always do that later if I change my mind.

Change the Seagate to WD Blue 2 TB HDD

Together with a decent Mid Tower case this priced out at around  $1,750 US Plus time to build it.

I already have Windows 10 Home 64, a good keyboard , Mouse etc.. so no sense in spending an extra $400 on things I don't need so this will be a better deal for me.

Now all I have to do is convince my CFO, she doesn't think I need all that, so I will have to educate her!  :ohmy:


Pete S.

10th gen CPU I7-10700K, MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Edge MB, RAM 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB-DDR4 3600, 

2X 1TB Sabrent Rocket Q M.2 Nvme SSD. Enermax RGB CPU Liquid Cooler.(Still waiting on Evga RTX 3080 Video)

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Looks good! I have some concerns about the optane memory option but it feint heart never had a fair maiden.  I didn't mention the purchase to the CFO. It could be a long lonely summer when word gets out. :bengong:


13900K@5.8GHz - ROG Strix Z790-E - 2X16Gb G.Skill Trident DDR5 6400 CL32 - MSI RTX 4090 Suprim X - WD SN850X 2 TB M.2 - XPG S70 Blade 2 TB M.2 - MSI A1000G PCIE5 1000 W 80+ Gold PSU - Liam Li 011 Dynamic Razer case - 58" Panasonic TC-58AX800U 4K - Pico 4 VR  HMD - WinWing HOTAS Orion2 MAX - ProFlight Pedals - TrackIR 5 - W11 Pro (Passmark:12574, CPU:63110-Single:4785, GPU:50688)

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