Process Lasso Opinions?

[Sethos 4,335]

The Prepar3D.cfg where you add the AM is located in C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4

Then you need to add a new section, can just be added at the top; 

[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=

Where in your case, I probably wouldn't do much more than add a 253 mask;

[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=253

That is assuming you have hyper-threading enabled. That just removes your first logical core from the mix and uses everything else. Despite the simulator not actually using that core, I've found that 'removing it' gave me a slightly smoother experience. Though that might be purely placebo. In general, especially when you have so few cores to move around with, I might just refrain from using a mask. AM doesn't do you much good unless you understand what it does, have cores to free up and assign addons and other processes to. 

[newtie 533]

On 7/17/2017 at 7:41 AM, pmb said:

I have been using it (the paid version) for some time but didn't try it in Prepar3d4 (and with my new machine) yet. I agree it is powerful and the developer is very active, but I was a bit lost in-between the host of options and settings (and suggestions by various people on how to exploit them - just take core unparking named above as an example).

Sometimes it's better to keep things simple, at least for a layman like me.

Kind regards, Michael

I used it a while back but no longer do so. Every change you make to any aspect of P3D it's going to affect something else. Experienced simmers eventually come to the conclusion that optimizing P3D is a reductive process, not an additive one.

However, I do start and run ASN and UT2Live through command line entries to assign to cores; no background running app required or necessary in order to do this.

Cheers,

Mark

[Hilkiah 4]

8 minutes ago, Sethos1988 said:

The Prepar3D.cfg where you add the AM is located in C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4

Then you need to add a new section, can just be added at the top; 

[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=

Where in your case, I probably wouldn't do much more than add a 253 mask;

[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=253

That is assuming you have hyper-threading enabled. That just removes your first logical core from the mix and uses everything else. Despite the simulator not actually using that core, I've found that 'removing it' gave me a slightly smoother experience. Though that might be purely placebo. In general, especially when you have so few cores to move around with, I might just refrain from using a mask. AM doesn't do you much good unless you understand what it does, have cores to free up and assign addons and other processes to. 

Thanks!

Will try and see.

[vgbaron 3,620]

I have it but no longer use it. For me I saw no really noticeable difference so it was just one less program to run. After lots of experimenting, I turned off HT and do not use AM. FOR ME - the sim runs much better.

After a while I personally find trying to cut a few nanoseconds off a load time,etc is really counter productive. I believe that systems that are not tuned properly might show a large improvement but if you have your system right on the edge, not so much.

As with all tweaks and settings, each system is different.

Vic

[lownslo 592]

6 hours ago, newtie said:

I used it a while back but no longer do so. Every change you make to any aspect of P3D it's going to affect something else. Experienced simmers eventually come to the conclusion that optimizing P3D is a reductive process, not an additive one.

However, I do start and run ASN and UT2Live through command line entries to assign to cores; no background running app required or necessary in order to do this.

+1.  It's a nice app with great support but unnecessary.  Anything PL can do that simmers need can be done with command line.

Greg

[ricka47 611]

On 7/17/2017 at 8:04 AM, GSalden said:

PL is great tool and I use icw my Fs addons.

Do not use it with the P3D.exe file ! Use an AM in the P3D.cfg file for that.

I'm curious what difference it would make to change the affinity for P3D within PL instead of via the cfg file?

[jimcarrel 688]

P3D is still going to internally run an AFM, so you are stacking.

[GSalden 4,656]

2 hours ago, ricka47 said:

I'm curious what difference it would make to change the affinity for P3D within PL instead of via the cfg file?

There are multiple topics where you can find all info.

 

[ricka47 611]

16 minutes ago, jimcarrel said:

P3D is still going to internally run an AFM, so you are stacking.

Gotcha - thanks!

[Hilkiah 4]

On 7/18/2017 at 3:40 PM, Sethos1988 said:

The Prepar3D.cfg where you add the AM is located in C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4

Then you need to add a new section, can just be added at the top; 

[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=

Where in your case, I probably wouldn't do much more than add a 253 mask;

[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=253

That is assuming you have hyper-threading enabled. That just removes your first logical core from the mix and uses everything else. Despite the simulator not actually using that core, I've found that 'removing it' gave me a slightly smoother experience. Though that might be purely placebo. In general, especially when you have so few cores to move around with, I might just refrain from using a mask. AM doesn't do you much good unless you understand what it does, have cores to free up and assign addons and other processes to. 

Here's an update.

I set my AF=85, which if I understand correctly, will only use the 4 physical cores and not the Logical cores...  I can confirm the number since Lasso shows 0,2,4,6 being used.

Then I set Chaseplane to use cores 5,7 (in lasso).  I then set active cloud and pro ATC to use 1, 3 (in lasso).  Thus far, this is the smoothest experience since I started tweaking..  The only other thing I did was enable 'classify as high performance process' for p3d and chaseplane

I hope this helps.

 

Edited July 19, 2017 by Hilkiah
correction

[Patriot3810 182]

i use it for x-plane 11, without it i get about 45fps, with setting 8 true cores of my 16 threads i get between 50-60fps, i don't use it in p3d for some reason p3d 4 hammers 2 of my ryzen cores, 2 and 4 and i get around 50fps, of course i would need to go through and tell you everything i have installed.

[Mihai MB 0]

I found a promotion for the Process Lasso Pro version: https://www.mocasoft.net/forums/topic/process-lasso-pro-free-license/

this is a legal giveaway

I hope there is no problem that I have put a link

[jimcarrel 688]

Free for 30 days, then must register to continue......just filling in the blanks.

[lownslo 592]

1 hour ago, jimcarrel said:

Free for 30 days, then must register to continue......just filling in the blanks.

Not exactly.  What it says...

"30 days of free updates.
Must activate within those 30 days."

Giveawayoftheday is offering this app today as well: https://www.giveawayoftheday.com/

And the developer, Bitsum, has a 50% discount available as well.  A very good deal for an app that's been around for quite a few years and has helped a lot of folks.

Greg

[fluffyflops 1,858]

On 7/19/2017 at 8:12 PM, Hilkiah said:

Here's an update.

I set my AF=85, which if I understand correctly, will only use the 4 physical cores and not the Logical cores...  I can confirm the number since Lasso shows 0,2,4,6 being used.

Then I set Chaseplane to use cores 5,7 (in lasso).  I then set active cloud and pro ATC to use 1, 3 (in lasso).  Thus far, this is the smoothest experience since I started tweaking..  The only other thing I did was enable 'classify as high performance process' for p3d and chaseplane

I hope this helps.

 

Perfect thanks I tried that today, works well