Saitek X-56 not working in Prepar3D V3

[FredAir 0]

So, I've had the Saitek X-56 Rhino for a while, and it's worked without problems, until about a week ago. Neither the stick or trottle quadrant is working in P3D at the moment, but the wierd thing is it's working in the Saitek program. I've tried most of the usual stuff like changing USB port, I've also done a troubleshooting in Windows, with no results. I am using FSUIPC 4 and I have disabled my controllers in P3D. Very wierd problem, seems like it should be an easy fix.

 

Thanks in advance

/Fred

[vgbaron 3,620]

If you look in your fsuipc.ini file I think you'll find that the ID#'s have changed. Look for a program called JoyID - I beleive there is a link on the FSUIPC forum. This can help get it sorted.

Vic

[David Roch 1,982]

Fred,  you say you have disabled controllers in P3D.
It can't work!

Or am I wrong?

[FredAir 0]

1 hour ago, vgbaron said:

If you look in your fsuipc.ini file I think you'll find that the ID#'s have changed. Look for a program called JoyID - I beleive there is a link on the FSUIPC forum. This can help get it sorted.

Vic

Thanks for the fast response. I downloaded JoyID and it did not work, could possibly be me doing something wrong.. Do you by any chance have a link to that thread on the FSUIPC forums?

[FredAir 0]

12 minutes ago, David Roch said:

Fred,  you say you have disabled controllers in P3D.
It can't work!

Or am I wrong?

When using FSUIPC you should disable your controllers in P3D, otherwise P3D will override FSUIPC, at least that's what froogle said in his video

[David Roch 1,982]

No, you have to remove buttons and keys assignments and let the controllers ON.

[FredAir 0]

8 minutes ago, David Roch said:

No, you have to remove buttons and keys assignments and let the controllers ON.

Now I feel a little stupid I must say, so do I have do delete the axis assignments in P3D to make them work in FSUIPC?

 

[David Roch 1,982]

Never stupid :-)

Yes, disable the axis as well.

 

[vgbaron 3,620]

Well, fwiw, I have all my controls mapped through FSUIPC5 - SaitekX55 Rhino, CH Yoke, Ch Throttle Quadrant, CH Rudders and I have ALL joysticks disabled in P3Dv4 with no issues. Bewen running that way for years.

Fred, when you say JoyID didn't work - do you mean the program failed to run or you didn't see anything?

You might want to post your FSUIPC.INI file. Also what version of FSUIPC are you using?

Vic

[Pete Dowson 558]

4 hours ago, David Roch said:

No, you have to remove buttons and keys assignments and let the controllers ON.

No, it is always best to disable controllers. No need to delete any assignments whatsoever. FSUIPC assignments bypass all of the P3D joystick input code.

It sounds like the OP is using an older version of FSUIPC as earlier problems with both X-55 and X-56 were resolved a while back, as well JoyIDs. And he/she only needs to look at the About screen in FSUIPC Options, or on most any of the documentation, or in the place where he/she downloaded FSUIPC from, to find a link to my Support Forum, which is the best place to go for Support of FSUIPC, surprisingly.

Pete

 

 

[David Roch 1,982]

:-)) Indeed!
I am using FSUIPC for almost a century (huh!) but didn't know that.
Thank you for your input Pete.

So Fred, you have the solution, get the latest FSUIPC and you'll use your X-56 flawlessly as I do.
FSUIPC + SPAD Next are doing a perfect job with P3D v3 and v4.

 

 

[FredAir 0]

On 2017-07-27 at 10:39 PM, vgbaron said:

Well, fwiw, I have all my controls mapped through FSUIPC5 - SaitekX55 Rhino, CH Yoke, Ch Throttle Quadrant, CH Rudders and I have ALL joysticks disabled in P3Dv4 with no issues. Bewen running that way for years.

Fred, when you say JoyID didn't work - do you mean the program failed to run or you didn't see anything?

You might want to post your FSUIPC.INI file. Also what version of FSUIPC are you using?

Vic

Well I did not see any change after downloading JoyID. I'm using FSUIPC version 4 in P3D V3, do you think it would be a good idea to change over to FSUIPC version 5?

And here's my .ini file as you requested

[General]
UpdatedByVersion=4969
History=JQO6B0E6VM2QGYDDE3WH9
InitDelayDevicesToo=No
Annotate=Yes
NewInterceptTextMenu=No
UseSystemTime=No
UseMidMouseBtn=Yes
MouseWheelMove=No
MouseWheelTrim=No
MouseWheelTrimSpeed=1
JoystickTimeout=20
PollGFTQ6=Yes
BlankDisplays=No
FixControlAccel=No
FixMachSpeedBug=No
NewDeleteVehiclesForAES=No
AutoScanDevices=Yes
VisibilityOptions=No
OneCloudLayer=No
CloudTurbulence=No
CloudIcing=No
GenerateCirrus=No
SuppressCloudTurbulence=No
MaxIce=-4
MinIce=-4
UpperWindGusts=No
SuppressWindTurbulence=No
SuppressWindVariance=No
WindTurbulence=No
TurbulenceRate=1.0,5.0
TurbulenceDivisor=20,20,40,40
SuppressAllGusts=No
MaxSurfaceWind=0
WindLimitLevel=200
WindDiscardLevel=400
WindAjustAltitude=No
WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000
SmoothBySimTime=No
WindSmoothing=No
WindSmoothness=2
WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes
PressureSmoothness=0
TemperatureSmoothness=0
DisconnTrimForAP=No
ZeroElevForAPAlt=No
ThrottleSyncAll=No
WhiteMessages=No
ShowPMcontrols=No
SpoilerIncrement=512
MagicBattery=No
RudderSpikeRemoval=No
ElevatorSpikeRemoval=No
AileronSpikeRemoval=No
ReversedElevatorTrim=No
ClockSync=No
ClockSyncMins=5
ClearWeatherDynamics=No
OwnWeatherChanges=No
TimeForSelect=4
LoadFlightMenu=No
LoadPlanMenu=No
PauseAfterCrash=No
BrakeReleaseThreshold=75
SaveDataWithFlights=No
ZapSound=firework
ShortAircraftNameOk=Substring
UseProfiles=Yes
EnableMouseLook=No
DelayedMouseLookZoom=No
WideLuaGlobals=Yes
AxesWrongRange=No
TCASid=Flight
TCASrange=40
AxisCalibration=No
DirectAxesToCalibs=No
ShowMultilineWindow=Yes
SuppressSingleline=No
SuppressMultilineFS=No
AxisIntercepts=No
DontResetAxes=No
ThreadAffinityMask=x0
LuaAffinityMask=x0
InitDelay=0
GetNearestAirports=Yes
LogOptionProtect=Yes
OOMcheck=Yes
OOMcheckInterval=10
TimeForLuaClosing=2
WeatherReadFactor=2
WeatherRewriteSeconds=1
CustomWeatherModify=No
SimConnectStallTime=20
InitialStallTime=10
NormalStallTime=1
LuaRerunDelay=66
Console=No
FSVersionUsed="Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v3",3.4.22.19868
SimConnectUsed=3.4.0.0

[Traffic Limiter]
AirportPreference=50
PlannedAirportsPreference=50
GroundPreference=50
NearerPreference=50
TargetFrameRate=0
TrafficLimit=0

[JoyNames]
AutoAssignLetters=No
0=Saitek Pro Flight X-56 Rhino Throttle
0.GUID={35FAD9F0-E63B-11E6-8004-444553540000}
3=Saitek Pro Flight X-56 Rhino Throttle
3.GUID={35FA3DB0-E63B-11E6-8003-444553540000}
2=Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals
2.GUID={4BB41F10-4121-11E5-8001-444553540000}

[Axes]
PollInterval=10
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=1R,256,D,4,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Throttle }-
1=1U,256,D,4,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Throttle }-
2=3Y,256,D,6,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Mixture }-

[Buttons]
PollInterval=25
ButtonRepeat=20,10

[AutoSave]
Next=1
Interval=60
Files=10
SaveOnGround=No
AutoSaveEnabled=No

[GPSout]
GPSoutEnabled=No
Port=COM1
Speed=4800
Interval=2000
PosTo6Decimal=No
SimModeIndicator=No
Sentences=

[GPSout2]
GPSoutEnabled=No
Port=<none set>
Speed=4800
Interval=2000
PosTo6Decimal=No
SimModeIndicator=No
Sentences=

[WideServer]
WideFSenabled=Yes

[Sounds]
Path=C:\Program Files (x86)\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v3\Sound\
Device1=Primär ljuddrivrutin
Device2=Högtalare (ASUS ROG Spitfire)

[Profile.Boeing_777]
1=PMDG 777-FS2 FedEx Express

[JoystickCalibration]
AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes
ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes
ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes
ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=No
ReverserControl=66292
Reverser1Control=66422
Reverser2Control=66425
Reverser3Control=66428
Reverser4Control=66431
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=66731
RudderTrimControl=66732
CowlFlaps1Control=66162
CowlFlaps2Control=66163
CowlFlaps3Control=66164
CowlFlaps4Control=66165
SteeringTillerControl=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
Aileron=-16264,-330,-146,16383
Elevator=-16384,-100,512,16383
Rudder=-16384,0,512,16383
LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16
RightBrake=-16384,16383/16
Throttle=-16384,16191

[Profile.Boeing_737]
1=Boeing 737-883NGX SAS Scandinavian Airlines (Saga Viking)
2=Boeing 737-82RNGX Pegasus Airlines Winglets
3=Boeing 737-86NNGX Norwegian Air Shuttle Winglets
4=Boeing 737-883NGX SAS Scandinavian Airlines (Freja Viking) Winglets
5=Airbus A319 Germanwings D-AGWZ
6=Boeing 737-8K2NGX KLM Royal Dutch Airlines Winglets
7=PMDG 737-900NGX PMDG House

[Buttons.Boeing_737]
0=P3,6,C65759,0     -{FLAPS_DECR}-
1=P3,5,C65758,0     -{FLAPS_INCR}-
2=P3,8,C66079,0     -{GEAR_UP}-
3=P3,7,C66080,0     -{GEAR_DOWN}-
4=P3,10,C65752,0     -{PARKING_BRAKES}-
5=R3,28,C65607,0     -{ELEV_TRIM_DN}-
6=R3,27,C65615,0     -{ELEV_TRIM_UP}-
7=P0,10,C65752,0     -{PARKING_BRAKES}-
8=P0,8,C65759,0     -{FLAPS_DECR}-
9=P0,7,C65758,0     -{FLAPS_INCR}-
10=P0,5,C66080,0     -{GEAR_DOWN}-
11=P0,6,C66079,0     -{GEAR_UP}-
12=R0,27,C65615,0     -{ELEV_TRIM_UP}-
13=R0,28,C65607,0     -{ELEV_TRIM_DN}-
14=P0,4,C65860,0     -{AUTO_THROTTLE_ARM}-
15=P0,3,C65861,0     -{AUTO_THROTTLE_TO_GA}-

[Axes.Boeing_737]
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=0X,256,D,9,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }-
1=0Y,256,D,10,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }-
2=0T,256,D,22,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Spoilers }-
3=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Aileron }-
4=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Elevator }-
5=1R,256,D,3,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Rudder }-
6=1V,256,D,3,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Rudder }-
7=2X,256,D,7,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }-
8=2Y,256,D,8,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }-
9=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Rudder }-
10=3X,256,D,9,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }-
11=3Y,256,D,10,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }-

[JoystickCalibration.Boeing_737]
AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes
ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes
ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes
ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=No
ReverserControl=66292
Reverser1Control=66422
Reverser2Control=66425
Reverser3Control=66428
Reverser4Control=66431
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=66731
RudderTrimControl=66732
CowlFlaps1Control=66162
CowlFlaps2Control=66163
CowlFlaps3Control=66164
CowlFlaps4Control=66165
SteeringTillerControl=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
Aileron=-16384,117,512,16383
Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380
Rudder=-16384,0,64,16383
LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16
RightBrake=-16384,16383/16
Throttle1=-16384,-512,512,16159
Throttle2=-16191,-512,512,16255

[Buttons.Boeing_777]
0=P1,10,C65752,0     -{PARKING_BRAKES}-
1=P3,10,C65752,0     -{PARKING_BRAKES}-
2=P3,6,C65758,0     -{FLAPS_INCR}-
3=P3,8,C66080,0     -{GEAR_DOWN}-
4=P3,7,C66079,0     -{GEAR_UP}-
5=P3,5,C65759,0     -{FLAPS_DECR}-
6=P3,27,C65615,0     -{ELEV_TRIM_UP}-
7=P3,30,C65607,0     -{ELEV_TRIM_DN}-
8=P3,28,C65607,0     -{ELEV_TRIM_DN}-
9=U3,5,C65607,0     -{ELEV_TRIM_DN}-

[Axes.Boeing_777]
0=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Aileron }-
1=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Elevator }-
2=2X,256,D,7,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }-
3=2Y,256,D,8,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }-
4=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Rudder }-
5=3X,256,D,9,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }-
6=3Y,256,D,10,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }-

[Profile.Boeing777_V2]
1=PMDG 777-FHT TNT Airways
2=Boeing 737-9K2NGX KLM Royal Dutch Airlines Winglets
3=Airbus A318 Aerosoft D-AERO (CFM)
4=PMDG 777-21HLR Emirates

[Buttons.Boeing777_V2]
0=P3,6,C65759,0     -{FLAPS_DECR}-
1=P3,5,C65758,0     -{FLAPS_INCR}-
2=P3,8,C66079,0     -{GEAR_UP}-
3=P3,7,C66080,0     -{GEAR_DOWN}-
4=P3,10,C65752,0     -{PARKING_BRAKES}-
5=R3,28,C65607,0     -{ELEV_TRIM_DN}-
6=R3,27,C65615,0     -{ELEV_TRIM_UP}-

[Axes.Boeing777_V2]
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Aileron }-
1=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Elevator }-
2=1R,256,D,3,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Rudder }-
3=2X,256,D,7,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }-
4=2Y,256,D,8,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }-
5=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Rudder }-
6=3X,256,D,9,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Throttle1 }-
7=3Y,256,D,10,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Throttle2 }-

[JoystickCalibration.Boeing777_V2]
AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes
ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes
ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes
ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=No
ReverserControl=66292
Reverser1Control=66422
Reverser2Control=66425
Reverser3Control=66428
Reverser4Control=66431
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=66731
RudderTrimControl=66732
CowlFlaps1Control=66162
CowlFlaps2Control=66163
CowlFlaps3Control=66164
CowlFlaps4Control=66165
SteeringTillerControl=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
Aileron=-16384,117,512,16383
Elevator=-16384,10,512,16207
Rudder=-16384,-16,512,16383
LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16
RightBrake=-16384,16383/16

[Profile.Cessna_182]
1=C182_N6182G
2=C182_D-EXSW
3=C182_G-BDIG
4=C182_VH-DLL

[Buttons.Cessna_182]
0=P3,10,C65752,0     -{PARKING_BRAKES}-
1=P3,8,C65759,0     -{FLAPS_DECR}-
2=P3,7,C65758,0     -{FLAPS_INCR}-
3=P3,1,C0,0     -{Custom control: <0>}-

[Axes.Cessna_182]
RangeRepeatRate=10
0=1X,256,D,1,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Aileron }-
1=1Y,256,D,2,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Elevator }-
2=2X,256,D,7,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: LeftBrake }-
3=2Y,256,D,8,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: RightBrake }-
4=2R,256,D,3,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Rudder }-
5=3X,256,D,6,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Mixture }-
6=3Y,256,D,4,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: Throttle }-
7=3T,256,D,21,0,0,0    -{ DIRECT: ElevatorTrim }-

[JoystickCalibration.Cessna_182]
AllowSuppressForPFCquad=Yes
ExcludeThrottleSet=Yes
ExcludeMixtureSet=Yes
ExcludePropPitchSet=Yes
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
UseAxisControlsForNRZ=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=No
ReverserControl=66292
Reverser1Control=66422
Reverser2Control=66425
Reverser3Control=66428
Reverser4Control=66431
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=66731
RudderTrimControl=66732
CowlFlaps1Control=66162
CowlFlaps2Control=66163
CowlFlaps3Control=66164
CowlFlaps4Control=66165
SteeringTillerControl=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
Aileron=-16384,-153,-146,16145
Elevator=-16384,-80,512,16376
Rudder=-16384,0,512,16383
Throttle=-16384,16191
LeftBrake=-16384,16383/16
RightBrake=-16384,16383/16

[FredAir 0]

On 2017-07-28 at 0:48 AM, Pete Dowson said:

No, it is always best to disable controllers. No need to delete any assignments whatsoever. FSUIPC assignments bypass all of the P3D joystick input code.

It sounds like the OP is using an older version of FSUIPC as earlier problems with both X-55 and X-56 were resolved a while back, as well JoyIDs. And he/she only needs to look at the About screen in FSUIPC Options, or on most any of the documentation, or in the place where he/she downloaded FSUIPC from, to find a link to my Support Forum, which is the best place to go for Support of FSUIPC, surprisingly.

Pete

 

 

Thanks for your response Pete, I saw yesterday that version 5 of FSUIPC is now availible on Simmarket, do you think that I should upgrade to that version instead of using version 4?

[Pete Dowson 558]

3 hours ago, FredAir said:

I saw yesterday that version 5 of FSUIPC is now availible on Simmarket, do you think that I should upgrade to that version instead of using version 4?

FSUIPC5 is the 64-bit version and only runs in Prepar3D version 4. FSUIPC4 is the 32-bit version and it remains the version for FSX, FSX-SE and all Prepar3D versions up to but not including 4.

The assignments in your INI file are a bit mixed up. With several devices you should be using Joy Letters (change the parameter in [JoyNames] so that they don't get misassigned.

Please post details of your X-56 problem in my Support Forum. That is where I do actually support FSUIPC. There are interim updates to FSUIPC 4.969 which might help but I need more information first.

Pete

 

[FredAir 0]

5 hours ago, Pete Dowson said:

FSUIPC5 is the 64-bit version and only runs in Prepar3D version 4. FSUIPC4 is the 32-bit version and it remains the version for FSX, FSX-SE and all Prepar3D versions up to but not including 4.

The assignments in your INI file are a bit mixed up. With several devices you should be using Joy Letters (change the parameter in [JoyNames] so that they don't get misassigned.

Please post details of your X-56 problem in my Support Forum. That is where I do actually support FSUIPC. There are interim updates to FSUIPC 4.969 which might help but I need more information first.

Pete

 

Thank you very much for the answer I'll be sure to check out the FSUIPC forums next time, but if I may I'd just like you to clearify what exactly I need to do with the joy names? Do you want me to change the numbers in front of the controllers, or is it something else that I need to change, if so, what do I change it to?