Aerosoft CRJ 700/900 Released!!!

[thepilot 577]

1 hour ago, JYW said:

My yoke won't disappear either.

Other issues I had in two flight today;-

• AP busting altitude (while descending).
• Set V/S value not being held while descending in VS.
• ILS: Was established on LOC, with GS shown on the PFD as armed, GS failed to activate and just remained armed.
• Although TOD was shown on the MFD, I can't find anyway to see any cue for the advisory VNAV (a glidepath cue), despite going over the manuals for this (I might have missed it). Surely advisory VNAV isn't simply a TOD annunciation?

And I'll say (moan) again, that the lack of key assignments for the AP is a kiler for me - this is an aircraft where you're never away from the speed, altitude, VS and heading knobs and where you're also needing to keep an eye on your manual thrust control, espcially during descent and approach.   Fiddling around with the mouse constantly kept my eyes away from the instruments / outside visual.  Extremely subjective but I just didn't enjoy my flights with the CRJ because of this.  Very very odd that Hans has provided comprehensive custom key assignments for the MCDU buttons but not for the AP!

Unfortunately my CRJ is getting hangared until we have at least a LUA script to be able to assign some AP commands.

 

Yikes, that's bad. Looks like the only Bombardier plane I'll be flying in FSX/P3D will continue to be the Q400.

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Every time a forumer express a critic or report a fact against a game, there is immediately the developer which joins the thread  and start to play the victim role, detailing about his family at home with 7 children to feed, the 24*7 job urgent matters to accomplish to save the world .etc...

I think it is time to take critics on board and start to release finished products, just like when there was no web therefore no chance to update the alphas. It is also time to read posts, carefully

This is not intended to offend at all, I want to be clear, but customers nowdays are the less respected part of the chain but they are the only ones which pay you all.

[Skywolf 992]

Has anyone tried this in VR - how is it?  Can't wait to buy this bird soon.

[JRBarrett 3,070]

1 hour ago, JYW said:

My yoke won't disappear either.

Other issues I had in two flight today;-

• AP busting altitude (while descending).
• Set V/S value not being held while descending in VS.
• ILS: Was established on LOC, with GS shown on the PFD as armed, GS failed to activate and just remained armed.
• Although TOD was shown on the MFD, I can't find anyway to see any cue for the advisory VNAV (a glidepath cue), despite going over the manuals for this (I might have missed it). Surely advisory VNAV isn't simply a TOD annunciation?

And I'll say (moan) again, that the lack of key assignments for the AP is a kiler for me - this is an aircraft where you're never away from the speed, altitude, VS and heading knobs and where you're also needing to keep an eye on your manual thrust control, espcially during descent and approach.   Fiddling around with the mouse constantly kept my eyes away from the instruments / outside visual.  Extremely subjective but I just didn't enjoy my flights with the CRJ because of this.  Very very odd that Hans has provided comprehensive custom key assignments for the MCDU buttons but not for the AP!

Unfortunately my CRJ is getting hangared until we have at least a LUA script to be able to assign some AP commands.

I've never had the AP bust an altitude in descent during beta testing using managed speed mode, but never tried it using v/s

As a selected altitude is being approached in descent, the pilot has to start reducing power slowly prior to reaching it - as soon as the green ALTS starts flashing in the PFD. This is especially true if a 290 knot descent was being used.

The glideslope capture issue was definitely seen during beta, but it seemed to be fixed in the last couple of test versions. I found that if the aircraft did not automatically start descending when the G/S dot reached the center, that pressing the APP button twice would get it started down. First press unselects approach mode, and the second press re-enables it.

This is a workaround, but it appears that the G/S capture still needs work.

Advisory VNAV is one of the areas in this aircraft that probably still needs some work - it was one of the last features to be added during beta.

That said, it is rather limited, even in the real aircraft. You will get a TD dot on the MFD. The altitude constraints you see for upcoming waypoints on the MFD are for "information only" - the aircraft does not automatically level off to make altitude restrictions the way a true VNAV would. The aircraft is descending to make whatever altitude you have dialed into the AP, and if a STAR has a series of restrictions, it is up to the pilot to insure that the aircraft levels off at each one. 

There should be a small asterisk * symbol in the PFD called the "snowflake" that appears once initial TD is reached that should show if you are above or below the ideal path to reach your next altitude restriction (you use it much like you would a glideslope indication) BUT in the last version I tested, it did not seem to be working yet.

You should also get a magenta colored "banana" arc in the MFD during descent to show where the aircraft is going to reach the selected altitude. It is similar to the "green banana" found on Boeing aircraft. That always seemed to be quite accurate in beta. Because descents are typically done in IAS speed mode (speed on pitch) if the arc shows you are going to reach your decent point too soon, you would increase power to reduce your descent rate - if the arc shows you will overshoot your descent restriction you would decrease power to increase your descent rate. This seems counterintuitive to pilots not used to an aircraft that has no real VNAV.

Also, in descent, it is the pilot's responsibility to reduce speed to 250 knots or less at 10,000 feet. The aircraft will definitely not do it for you. 

I never use V/S in descents until below 10,000 feet, with the speed stabilized at or below 250 knots. Once you go to V/S mode, you have to manually control thrust to keep your speed from increasing. Speed brakes are helpful and effective. I fly on Delta CRJs as a passenger coming into Detroit quite often, and I have noted that the speed brakes are often up for the entire descent from 10,000 feet on down when landing on the 03 or 04 runways from the MIZAR star, because they have to lose quite a bit of altitude in a relatively short distance.

[DaveCT2003 1,820]

2 hours ago, GHarrall said:

yoke is hidden by clicking the speed placard above the MFD

 

You can also use Control-Q.  Manual says Control-W, but it's one of the few changes we didn't get in before release.

 

[CaptBmckay 22]

The day has finally come!

http://www.aerosoft.com/en/fsxp3d/flight-simulator-x-steam/aircraft/1638/crj-700/900-x

[carlito777 712]

Just finished a flight from EDDL to EDDM. Overall I can say that it is a nice aircraft which still needs some work. But it is absolutely flyable. So no need for harsh criticism. Every major aircraft release has its problems. It will get there eventually. A couple of problems I had:

1. Right after takeoff I had a really hard time engaging the AP. I was climbing out with the throttle set to TOGA. Speed was increasing extremely fast and it was rocketing towards 200 knots. Maybe I just didn't pitch up sufficiently. The FD was giving all kinds of weird instructions even though I had selected Speed mode with speed set to V2+10, Nav with FMS1 as the nav source. I really had to battle her to get into a stable climb. Tried to hit the AP button a couple of times but in the beginning it just disengaged the AP automatically. Wouldn't stay on.

2. On the STAR into EDDM it just missed a turn in NAV mode. It just kept flying straight instead of doing a turn. I switched to Heading mode but it wouldn't follow the dialed heading. Had to disengange and re-engage the AP for it to work.

After that the landing was uneventfully. Did nicely capture the localizer as well as the glideslope. Was fun flying her by hand the last 1000 feet.

All in all, I think the CRJ has quite some potential. Visually she is great. The FMS and AP certainly needs some work. If you can't live with some small bugs here and there, then wait a couple of weeks before buying. But I'm confident they will get there. It's a nice add-on at a very fair price.

 

[JRBarrett 3,070]

5 minutes ago, carlito777 said:

Just finished a flight from EDDL to EDDM. Overall I can say that it is a nice aircraft which still needs some work. But it is absolutely flyable. So no need for harsh criticism. Every major aircraft release has its problems. It will get there eventually. A couple of problems I had:

1. Right after takeoff I had a really hard time engaging the AP. I was climbing out with the throttle set to TOGA. Speed was increasing extremely fast and it was rocketing towards 200 knots. Maybe I just didn't pitch up sufficiently. The FD was giving all kinds of weird instructions even though I had selected Speed mode with speed set to V2+10, Nav with FMS1 as the nav source. I really had to battle her to get into a stable climb. Tried to hit the AP button a couple of times but in the beginning it just disengaged the AP automatically. Wouldn't stay on.

2. On the STAR into EDDM it just missed a turn in NAV mode. It just kept flying straight instead of doing a turn. I switched to Heading mode but it wouldn't follow the dialed heading. Had to disengange and re-engage the AP for it to work.

After that the landing was uneventfully. Did nicely capture the localizer as well as the glideslope. Was fun flying her by hand the last 1000 feet.

All in all, I think the CRJ has quite some potential. Visually she is great. The FMS and AP certainly needs some work. If you can't live with some small bugs here and there, then wait a couple of weeks before buying. But I'm confident they will get there. It's a nice add-on at a very fair price.

 

If the aircraft is lightly loaded, it will climb quickly on takeoff - especially the 900 which has the most powerful engines of the series.

If you are light, try setting a FLEX temperature on the PERF INIT page to reduce your engine thrust on takeoff. I typically use 50 degrees C

Very important to enable TOGA mode when taking the runway. Either use a key/button assignment, or press the button on the side of the virtual throttles. If you have enabled the mode correctly, you should see "TO TO" on the top left of the PFD. After leaving the ground, the flight director command bars may pitch you up as much as 20 degrees - which is correct.

I typically preselect HDG (preset to runway heading) and SPEED in the initial climb, before engaging the autopilot. Be sure to reduce thrust to CLB by 1500 feet AGL 

[carlito777 712]

13 minutes ago, JRBarrett said:

If the aircraft is lightly loaded, it will climb quickly on takeoff - especially the 900 which has the most powerful engines of the series.

If you are light, try setting a FLEX temperature on the PERF INIT page to reduce your engine thrust on takeoff. I typically use 50 degrees C

Very important to enable TOGA mode when taking the runway. Either use a key/button assignment, or press the button on the side of the virtual throttles. If you have enabled the mode correctly, you should see "TO TO" on the top left of the PFD. After leaving the ground, the flight director command bars may pitch you up as much as 20 degrees - which is correct.

I typically preselect HDG (preset to runway heading) and SPEED in the initial climb, before engaging the autopilot. Be sure to reduce thrust to CLB by 1500 feet AGL 

Thanks for the tips, Jim! I just replicated the takeoff from EDDL with the same STAR and now it worked nicely. Must have been some form of user error on my side when I tried it the first time. I really start to like the CRJ...

[captain420 3,099]

This looks much better than the CRJ for X-Plane. I'm not surprised though. Seems like most aircrafts look better on FSX/P3D. Can't wait to get my hands on this.

[Dean33 69]

Is see comparisons to PMDG 737 study level sims. CRJ 700/900 will never compete so it's not fair to try - and the price is way different.

For me the question is how does it compare to the TFDI 717 - which I now find most acceptable. 

Would any early purchasers like to compare with the 717 based on initial experiences please?

[Farlis 2,287]

2 hours ago, Mark II said:

Every time a forumer express a critic or report a fact against a game, there is immediately the developer which joins the thread  and start to play the victim role, detailing about his family at home with 7 children to feed, the 24*7 job urgent matters to accomplish to save the world .etc...

I think it is time to take critics on board and start to release finished products, just like when there was no web therefore no chance to update the alphas. It is also time to read posts, carefully

This is not intended to offend at all, I want to be clear, but customers nowdays are the less respected part of the chain but they are the only ones which pay you all.

What you expressed was neither fact based nor constructive criticism. It was bollox. Nothing else.

Alpha release.... hogwash!

[CFIJose 5,485]

3 hours ago, GHarrall said:

Did you load a default AC VC first? It seems to work ok if you do that.

I have had it happen a couple of times trying to reload......

I can't believe that it works now. All I had to do was restart the computer.

Now if someone could help me get my TQ6 to work with the throttle on the CRJ I' be a happy simmer. I hope I don't have to buy FSUIPC again.

[JRBarrett 3,070]

1 hour ago, carlito777 said:

Thanks for the tips, Jim! I just replicated the takeoff from EDDL with the same STAR and now it worked nicely. Must have been some form of user error on my side when I tried it the first time. I really start to like the CRJ...

Easy to overlook setting the FD to TOGA mode before takeoff. Without doing that, the command bars won't give the correct information during the initial climb phase.

[RudiJG1 172]

45 minutes ago, DJJose said:

Now if someone could help me get my TQ6 to work with the throttle on the CRJ I' be a happy simmer. I hope I don't have to buy FSUIPC again.

You might want to. I have the same throttle and since I won't fly without FSUIPC and since I bought version 5 weeks ago, I'm having no problems with throttle setup in the new CRJ. Without FSUIPC, I can't get the hardware to work either.