Video: Milviz boss shows new addons

[boevad 1]

Im one of the saps who prepaid for the KA 4 years ago. I've tried numerous times to get a refund. I don't want to wait anymore. They're response each time was arrogant and condescending. They must have a boatload of sales to treat people like that. 

[MartinRex007 390]

Agree, the video was painful to watch, not the image I had of Milviz!

[Flic1 974]

I have never owned a Milviz product so I am certainly not speaking poorly of them but it has always seemed like they have a ton of products in the pipeline but not many are actually ever finished.  I do recall being interested in the KingAir several years ago and it does not appear it has ever been finished...???  Yet new products get announced?  Maybe I'm missing something.....

[GHarrall 494]

The Beaver is awesome. Fact.

[Nuno Pinto 1,394]

MilViz can make all the addons they wish, until i have the 350 in my hands which i paid for over 4 years ago, i'm not buying anything else from them. Alas, even CaptainSim isn't this bad - They launch updates from time to time, 4+ years is just ridiculous.

Sorry about the rant, but i feel really bad about this. Even the CRJ made it out already :P

[Egbert Drenth 250]

Consider the 350i as a write-off, they are never going to release it.
I bought it more then 3 years ago, since then nothing happened.

It is unbelievable a company is throwing its pretty good reputation to the craps. Their choice.

[Dirk98 354]

I honestly respect what they do besides 350i, I like this lively video and this character Crazycolin. "This is what you'll get when you mess with us" - should be their motto 

Cheers,

Dirk.

PS: and F-105 is also my favorite

[jmig 100]

1 hour ago, Egbert Drenth said:

Consider the 350i as a write-off, they are never going to release it.
I bought it more then 3 years ago, since then nothing happened.

It is unbelievable a company is throwing its pretty good reputation to the craps. Their choice.

I have been a volunteer Beta tester for Milviz ever since I was one of the T-38 pilots who tested the flight model. I also purchased the King Air. I can assure you that the King Air 350i is not a write off, cancelled, vapor ware, etc. It is still on the board as an active development. I asked Colin personally, what was the status on the King Air. He assured me that it will be done. I believe him. He has come across, in my dealings with him, as an honest man. I see no reason to doubt him here.

[groentesoep 22]

29 minutes ago, jmig said:

I have been a volunteer Beta tester for Milviz ever since I was one of the T-38 pilots who tested the flight model. I also purchased the King Air. I can assure you that the King Air 350i is not a write off, cancelled, vapor ware, etc. It is still on the board as an active development. I asked Colin personally, what was the status on the King Air. He assured me that it will be done. I believe him. He has come across, in my dealings with him, as an honest man. I see no reason to doubt him here.

While I don't believe the King Air is vapor ware, it better be a damn good add-on. After waiting this long (almost three years since I paid), my level of tolerance has decreased to very low levels. If I recall correctly the last update I got was from almost a year ago.

[Chock 17,769]

23 minutes ago, jmig said:

I can assure you that the King Air 350i is not a write off, cancelled, vapor ware, etc. It is still on the board as an active development.

If it's been sold to people over four years ago but still not shown up, but not officially cancelled either, then that is vapourware, since the definition of vapourware is 'a software product which is announced to the general public but is never actually manufactured nor officially cancelled'.

Sure, we know sometimes products get delayed, but four years is more than a mere delay, you could create a fairly decent airliner study sim from scratch in that amount of time, let alone a comparitively simpler prop twin. Developers banging out other stuff whilst products they sold long ago are buggy, awaiting patches or are a complete no-show is, frankly, disgraceful behaviour and companies should not be surprised to lose customers for having done that.

The Aerosoft CRJ and Level D 757 may have become a legend in terms of delays, but at least they never took money off people and left them awaiting what they paid for. In the case of that King Air, it is getting on for half a decade which those paying customers have been waiting for their purchase. In almost any other business arena where this kind of thing has gone on, a company would be facing accusations of fraud for having done that sort of thing.

[hs118 707]

27 minutes ago, Chock said:

Developers banging out other stuff whilst products they sold long ago are buggy, awaiting patches or are a complete no-show is, frankly, disgraceful behaviour and companies should not be surprised to lose customers for having done that.

And yet, Carenado continues to make money.

[Ron Attwood 3,464]

3 hours ago, GHarrall said:

The Beaver is awesome. Fact.

Awesome? A mightily over used word. Fact.

It may well come close...some day.

[newtie 533]

57 minutes ago, Henry Street said:

And yet, Carenado continues to make money.

Milviz does as well, rest assured. Some folks may not understand that Milviz adheres to a business model as do most other going concerns. Are you going to allocate limited resources to ac that are not selling like crazy, or are you going to do something else? The KA was a mistake, that is, selling it before it was actually done. I suspect that won't happen again (yes, I bought it too). Will it get done? Probably.

Milviz makes some of the finest aircraft out there; I own just about all of their projects. I, personally, are willing to let them off the KA hook, as long as what they continue to release remains some of the highest quality aircraft available, and they don't make the same mistake twice 

Mark

[Chock 17,769]

1 hour ago, Henry Street said:

And yet, Carenado continues to make money.

Not from me they don't

[newtie 533]

Same here.