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12 hours ago, Sina Najibi said:

neither PMDG or LM take the responsibility to resolve

LM are already working on this for the next update. Don't know how that's not taking responsibility. It's their sim, not PMDG's.

 

12 hours ago, Sina Najibi said:

Thus there's a button to turn this feature OFF.

You have a button to turn it off, it's in the P3D settings and disables dynamic lighting. That turns the feature off. You're requesting an alternative, not the ability to turn it off (which has existed all along). When you disable stop/start in your car, it turns it off. It doesn't provide an alternative.

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On 8/16/2017 at 4:01 AM, markdf said:

Assuming your normal monitor resolution is 1920x1080, and you apply DSR at 2x, you're already asking it to render at 4k.....

Not quite.  2x DSR is 2x total resolution. So, at 1920 x 1080, total resolution = 2073600 pixels.  So, DSR 2x = 2 x 2073600 =  4147200 pixels.    4k is 3840 x 2160 = 8294400 pixels.   That is 4 x 2073600 pixels.   So to get 4k, you actually have to set DSR 4x.   

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8 hours ago, PMDG777 said:

LM are already working on this for the next update. Don't know how that's not taking responsibility. It's their sim, not PMDG's.

 

You have a button to turn it off, it's in the P3D settings and disables dynamic lighting. That turns the feature off. You're requesting an alternative, not the ability to turn it off (which has existed all along). When you disable stop/start in your car, it turns it off. It doesn't provide an alternative.

While I really appreciate your explanation, with all due respect, I believe what you were saying about "Alternative" is kinda playing with words. Also, we both know disabling the DL through P3D doesn't solve the problem as there's no illumination on ground anymore but for PMDG products not the default simobjects. So I'm not sure why you've mentioned me that there's a button which doesn't solve the problem. I hope I could interpret my concern properly. To wrap it up, that would be much much much appreciated if PMDG could provide a button, an alternate, an option, or whatever you call it to revise the lights so they could work properly with DL off.

Cheers.

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3 hours ago, zap737 said:

Not quite.  2x DSR is 2x total resolution. So, at 1920 x 1080, total resolution = 2073600 pixels.  So, DSR 2x = 2 x 2073600 =  4147200 pixels.    4k is 3840 x 2160 = 8294400 pixels.   That is 4 x 2073600 pixels.   So to get 4k, you actually have to set DSR 4x.   

My bad, I doubled linear dimensions not pixel count, but the overall point remains unchanged that DSR and SSAA are both applying the same method to achieve a similar end goal - therefore the two compound the strain on the card and can thus lead to losing frames - so while I appreciate the math lesson, you are kind of splitting hairs without actually adding anything to the discussion or changing the point I made

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15 hours ago, markdf said:

...you are kind of splitting hairs without actually adding anything to the discussion or changing the point I made

I wasn't trying to change your point, but someone reading your post would be misled.  They would be wondering why, when they set 2 x DSR, they weren't able to get 4K.  When one posts inaccurate information, it causes confusion.

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1 hour ago, zap737 said:

I wasn't trying to change your point, but someone reading your post would be misled.  They would be wondering why, when they set 2 x DSR, they weren't able to set 4K.  When one posts inaccurate information, it causes confusion.

Like I said, I appreciate your correction - I'm just a little too used to people nitpicking just for the sake of it, so apologies if my reply came off a little abrasive, I often come off a lot more blunt than I intend.:/

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21 hours ago, Sina Najibi said:

While I really appreciate your explanation, with all due respect, I believe what you were saying about "Alternative" is kinda playing with words. Also, we both know disabling the DL through P3D doesn't solve the problem as there's no illumination on ground anymore but for PMDG products not the default simobjects. So I'm not sure why you've mentioned me that there's a button which doesn't solve the problem. I hope I could interpret my concern properly. To wrap it up, that would be much much much appreciated if PMDG could provide a button, an alternate, an option, or whatever you call it to revise the lights so they could work properly with DL off.

Cheers.

Wasn't trying to play with words, just pointing out that your analogy wasn't really correct.

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