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FSDreamTeam Hawaiian Airports - Are the Updated for P3D4

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Can someone tell me if the Hawaiian airports have been updated for P3D4?  I tried the newest installers and they do not list P3D4, yet on several sites I see folks saying that they are updated?

If they are updated, can someone advise me on how the heck to get them installed? I posted on the FSDreamTeam forum for these airports last week and haven't heard boo from anyone so its starting to tick me off.

Bryan

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They have replied over on the FSDream Forum Bryan.

 

If it's any help I'm running them in v4 without any problems.

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I see that thank you.

I'm not sure why personalities become so fractious. I have had better treatment.

They mounted a huge defence that their install could not corrupt the scenery.cfg file. So be it. But it did. After using their launcher, if finished and I launched P3D and it would not read the sceneries, none of them, so I shut down P3D via the task manager. The scenery.cfg was totally corrupted.

[General]਍]
Title=Prepar3D Scenery਍ഀ
Description=Prepar3D Scenery Areas Data਍ഀ
Clean_on_Exit=TRUE਍ഀ

[Area.001]
Title=Default Terrain਍ഀ
Texture_ID=1਍ഀ
Local=Scenery\World਍ഀ
Active=TRUE਍ഀ
Required=TRUE਍ഀ
Layer=1

[Area.002]
Title=Default Scenery਍ഀ
Local=Scenery\BASE਍ഀ
Active=TRUE਍ഀ
Required=TRUE਍ഀ
Layer=2

[Area.003]
Title=0000 Base਍ഀ
Local=Scenery\0000਍ഀ
Active=TRUE਍ഀ
Required=FALSE਍ഀ
Layer=3

 

ETC...so I then edited out each of these weird symbols and it fixed the file and it works nicely now again.

Anyway not to rant on. But we are having a bit of a peeing match over there as they defend themselves instead of focusing on how to fix my issues. 

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45 minutes ago, BrianT said:

They have replied over on the FSDream Forum Bryan.

 

If it's any help I'm running them in v4 without any problems.

And again thanks.

I am part way there.  Just not all the scenery is showing, lots of black boxes.

Do you happen to know how to uninstall I can't see where the addon manager will let me do that nor can I find an uninstall file?

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Hi.  If they told you their new installers cannot possibly corrupt your scenery config they are 100 percent correct.  Their new installers use the new addon procedure favored by LM and do not write anything to your scenery config at all.  so, if you have any entries for these sceneries in scenery config you are not running their new installer, but possibly an older version for v3 or fsx.  this would also explain the other problems.  hopefully they can help you uninstall it, since i don't have any older versions installed on my rig.  after they do, go to their site and download and run the new installers.  

 

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 Their installers don't touch the scenery.cfg for V4 at all, so it couldn't have been that. Sounds like you did something wrong along the way, did you let the installer finish and then as with many addons reboot the pc before firing up the sim next?

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17 minutes ago, Dave_YVR said:

 Their installers don't touch the scenery.cfg for V4 at all, so it couldn't have been that. Sounds like you did something wrong along the way, did you let the installer finish and then as with many addons reboot the pc before firing up the sim next?

All I can say is this: and I've been in the "business" for decades. I get that they don't normally affect the scenery.cfg.

 

The installer finished...it didn't seem right as it just asked me what sim I wanted to install it, there was no P3D4. Perhaps I had the wrong installer and that was the issue.

But regardless, it finished. I fired up the sim, it immediately started to say that I was missing scenery layer (started with default stuff), I immediately came scared something was wrong. I used the task manager to shut down P3D.

I immediately went to the scenery.cfg to see what was up and I found the above weird entries.

Its as simple as that, I am not blaming anyone or whatever, but something happened during that installation that screwed up.

I did not reboot the PC before firing up the sim. This was my first install that went into the addons section other than the GTN.

So, i went and downloaded the Addon Manager, installed it, and tried a reinstall, and this time it worked.

ps.- I then had to spend a bloody hour making it work with my setup, as there are file conflicts with Orbx Global (several files needed to be XXX out) and the AEC didn't do the job with one file it should have XXX out to fix elevation issue.  Perhaps the AEC doesn't work properly with files installed via xml addons.

Bryan

1 hour ago, Midnight Music said:

Do the new V4 installers still use Couatl?

Yes they do! Its all a pain in the butt quite frankly. Too complex.

 

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Were the installers freshly downloaded from FSDT?

 

18 minutes ago, 1st fltsimguy said:

All I can say is this: and I've been in the "business" for decades. I get that they don't normally affect the scenery.cfg.

 

 Hey I totally hear you and I have as well, but we all can make simple mistakes. I too got confused when the addon manager wanted to install to my C:\ drive not knowing what it was going to lead to. So I uninstalled it and put it where I wanted the scenery to go and it's been fine since.

 

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I've just downloaded the installers to check and yes they do give you the option to install into P3Dv4.

 

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9 hours ago, BrianT said:

I've just downloaded the installers to check and yes they do give you the option to install into P3Dv4.

 

Yes they do. For some reason the first attempt by me failed. And perhaps I screwed up.

I do know this by installed the new Addon Manager separately, and first, everything worked as it should after that.

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How are these sceneries in V4? Aside from aggravating Couatl stuff, like pauses on approach, do the aircraft wheels still sink into the tarmac?

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3 hours ago, Midnight Music said:

do the aircraft wheels still sink into the tarmac?

The sceneries look the same.  I still enjoy flying to the islands so I put up with that stuff... and it's just because they are old and are using FS2002 technology to render surface textures to prevent flickering and flashing on and off.  They didn't have many alternatives back then.  P3Dv3 introduced new tools in the 3DSMax materials editor to take care of this z-bias problem.

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Are these airports worth purchasing at this point in time? They were released some time ago and their age will probably show in P3Dv4.

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The ORBX FTX Global Range openLC North America updates the Hawaiian Island Chain but doesn't do a whole lot for the airports.   But ORBX is a big improvement over the default.

An ORBX "Region" release focusing on the Hawaiian Island Chain is WAY OVERDUE....it astounds me no one has done this region head to toe yet....it's ripe for the taking!   I absolutely love flying these islands....there is a lot of freeware stuff out there and also plenty of photoreal scenery, but it all felt kludged and I want something that is all inclusive.  I'd pay more for this region than any other I've purchased so far if it was done right.  

Mark Trainer

 

 

 

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21 hours ago, mtrainer said:

The ORBX FTX Global Range openLC North America updates the Hawaiian Island Chain but doesn't do a whole lot for the airports.   But ORBX is a big improvement over the default.

An ORBX "Region" release focusing on the Hawaiian Island Chain is WAY OVERDUE....it astounds me no one has done this region head to toe yet....it's ripe for the taking!   I absolutely love flying these islands....there is a lot of freeware stuff out there and also plenty of photoreal scenery, but it all felt kludged and I want something that is all inclusive.  I'd pay more for this region than any other I've purchased so far if it was done right.  

Mark Trainer

 

 

 

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Yeah, with openLC NA the islands look pretty good.  And yeah I'd buy both Hawaiian packs just to have those airports again.  I recently took a B736 in BBJ colors on a tour of the islands and it was great fun.

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This is an old topic but still, who cares about Orbx landclass or any landclass scenery for that matter these days? There is a superb photoreal freeware project covering all islands with seasonal variation and autogen. Even Orbx now understand photoreal is the future with its True Earth range.

mike

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3 hours ago, mikced76 said:

This is an old topic but still, who cares about Orbx landclass or any landclass scenery for that matter these days? There is a superb photoreal freeware project covering all islands with seasonal variation and autogen. Even Orbx now understand photoreal is the future with its True Earth range.

mike

Where is this package?

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3 hours ago, mikced76 said:

who cares about Orbx landclass or any landclass scenery for that matter these days?

I do! I hate photoreal scenery. 😀

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hawaii-photoreal com

IT's truly astonishing quality and they have added autogen recently. Make sure you donate so you get the plus version.

Also you can add several other airports (quality freeware) within the main islands that aren't covered by FSDT.

 

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Are the airports better than the FSDT stuff? I see they have PHNL PHOG.

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I use FSDT's instead of the alternative. But the rest of the airports are great.

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This is exactly what I use. These photo scenery packages and FSDT airports along with a few others not FSDT.

Its a beautiful thing, no need for Orbx anything.

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Rafal, there were people that protested and complained when the black and white TV was replaced by color and some called Internet a temporary thing that would not last long :) I am happy Orbx has realised that  it is something of the past to fly over ”fake repeating landscape” with their  fantastic ”True Earth” range of products. I look forward to The UK.

mike

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1 hour ago, mikced76 said:

I am happy Orbx has realised that  it is something of the past to fly over ”fake repeating landscape”

Mike, all about the sim is 'fake' - no real plane, no real clouds or rain to get wet, no real people (even GSXL2 won't change it).
But there is still the question of preference and what you like and what you don't. It, fortunately, is not that we all are clones of each other. 😉

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