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36 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

That is a ridiculous comment. The RELEASE version is 2.0 - the beta version being worked on is 2.2. And, regardless, not saying it is a beta would not be dishonest.

I suggest you rethink your comment.

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Actually, it says beta in the bug reporting forum on this site. Regardless, the software is updated monthly if not sometimes weekly, so I'm missing your point.

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Every time i read a thread like this, i think that there's potential for a developer who could create the "perfect" atc addon to be very successful if they could pull it off...

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4 minutes ago, regis9 said:

Every time i read a thread like this, i think that there's potential for a developer who could create the "perfect" atc addon to be very successful if they could pull it off...

If you could take every ATC program that has been written and combine them, you might be fairly close to a perfect program. None of them are perfect and a lot of it comes down to the service that the developer provides after the sale.

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Agreed.  Frankly I'd be happy with a modified default ATC that allowed you to fly sids/stars, did a better job of vectoring you, used a shorter downwind leg, and changed between FAA and ICAO terminology/procedures (ie FL changes) depending on where you are.  The voices in the default ATC are still by far the best out there to me in terms of sounding natural and being easy to work with to create new phrases.


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Always been a big fan of VoxATC for my VFR flying and occasional IFR flights in my light aircraft (A2A C172, Cherokee etc). One of the main features with VoxATC, the fact that it generates its own traffic can also be a pain I have noticed. The aircraft often do not behave like you expect, they can suddely just dissapear and although VoxATC base its traffic on your realistic AI flightplans the proportions can be way off. Say that 10 airlines traffic an airport and there are 5 parking spaces. Many times it could be that VoxATC places the same airline at all five gates. This might not be a problem at larger airports but having 5 Air France jets occuping all five gates at Tahiti airport is a bit unrealistic :)

Anways, lately I have returned go good old default ATC and for those VFR flights its not that bad and espcically with EditVoicepack 5, a voice recognition software and a headset. 

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22 minutes ago, mikced76 said:

Always been a big fan of VoxATC for my VFR flying and occasional IFR flights in my light aircraft (A2A C172, Cherokee etc). One of the main features with VoxATC, the fact that it generates its own traffic can also be a pain I have noticed. The aircraft often do not behave like you expect, they can suddely just dissapear and although VoxATC base its traffic on your realistic AI flightplans the proportions can be way off. Say that 10 airlines traffic an airport and there are 5 parking spaces. Many times it could be that VoxATC places the same airline at all five gates. This might not be a problem at larger airports but having 5 Air France jets occuping all five gates at Tahiti airport is a bit unrealistic :)

Anways, lately I have returned go good old default ATC and for those VFR flights its not that bad and espcically with EditVoicepack 5, a voice recognition software and a headset. 

 Mike    

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I use PRO ATC X and have done for a year or so, never had any problems with it and has been spot on, very impressed with it. Plus regular updates and support. If SierrsDelta approves of it that's a good endorsement in itself. :happy:

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"Plus regular updates and support"....

No news since May beta release. My main problem now is the in flight save that does not work on P3dV4. And now, I'd like support for FSL320 integration. 


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15 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

VOX ATC always sounds to me like a  robot in a 1950's movie. 

Hi Bob, VOX ATC just uses the Windows text-to-speech (TTS) engine, so it will sound like whatever TTS voice or voices you have selected. Any program that uses TTS, flightsim or otherwise, is in the same boat.

So firstly, it's not fair to single it out for specific criticism - it's just the nature of the technology, that it still sounds a little different from recorded vocals. The upside is that the range of spoken phrases that can be used is very wide. With human-recorded ATC, it's not like it necessarily flows smoothly when sentence fragments are combined,

The second point that should be clarified regarding this comment is that TTS voices vary massively in quality, and some of the modern ones are really excellent. Go to http://www.deskshare.com/text-to-speech-voices.aspx and download on of the Ivona voices to hear an example of what good TTS sounds like (you can get a one month free trial from this site, to test the TTS voices out).

I use a combination of Ivona voices and Cereproc voices with VOXATC, and the results are excellent. Note that I'm pretty new to VoxATC, and was sceptical prior to trying it for the first time a couple of weeks ago.

Cereproc voices actually sound the best, but there's no free trial. But if you download Emma from Ivona, you'll get a good idea of what you can achieve here (you can only borrow her temporarily, she's my normal FO so I need her back!).

As for the OP:

- I previously used RC4

- I now use VoxATC, and am very pleased with my purchase. But I also needed to buy a few extra voices, which does get expensive. As noted above, the standard windows TTS voice and the free voices available from VoxPOP for use with this program are pretty average.

- I use PilotEdge for GA flying when I want to talk to a real controller.

 

 

 

 


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There's a thread in the VOXATC AVSim forum that explains how to add more voices that are "hidden" in Win 10. One can also add language packs  from the Win10 Control Panel (like Canadian English) to add additional voices. But unless something was changed in VOXATC 7.41, it doesn't like Win10 non-English language packs.

As to payware voices, Cereproc and Ivona voices both work. Stay away from installing older Windows SAPI 5 voices into Win10. They sound terrible. The VOXATC add-on voices are a better option for free lower quality voices.

MS speech synthesis and speech recognition in Win10 are both top notch in my opinion... better than Apple's Siri, for example.

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PRO ATC is not reliable with many add on sceneries. especially Aerosoft.  Is rarely accurate on finall approaches and has to be ignored most of the time!!  It needs alot of work still . . . .

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2 hours ago, Mark Niebauer said:

PRO ATC is not reliable with many add on sceneries. especially Aerosoft.  Is rarely accurate on finall approaches and has to be ignored most of the time!!  It needs alot of work still . . . .

Please send a PM with reference your support post on the ProATC-X forum as you may have a different user name.

Aerosoft scenery is no different to any other.

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