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I was really glad to find Flysimware recently. I hadn't known about the products from this company until last month. I now have the lear, 441 and MU-2. I might pick up the piston twin too.

 

But what's next for Flysimware?

 

Everyone knows there is a huge vacuum in the flight sim world for realistic high performance business jets. Is there any chance of a modern high performance bizjet by FSW?

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Hi James,

Welcome to the fan club - I doubt we'll see anything with a glass panel from FSW as it adds tremendously to the development hours required to complete and given FSW's attention to detail it would have to be done right...

The next plane is a Falcon 50 - check the FSW website - I think they have some development shots posted - we used to have them here - but thanks to PhotoBucket - they're no longer available...

PhotoBucket - - - :angry::angry::angry:

Regards,

Scott

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Yup, as people have noted, it's the Dassault Falcon 50, which is good news because although there is a Wilco Falcon 7X (FSX/P3D V3), it is not that brilliant. Okay if you desperately must have one, but that's about it (don't be fooled by the 'it's an official Dassault endorsed product', which the Wilco one indeed is, that doesn't mean it's any good, it just means they've thrown Dassault a few quid).

The Fly Sim Ware one on the other hand, if all their other stuff is anything to go by, and given the fact that they make the best LearJet, so are no strangers to Biz Jets, should be pretty good. Personally, I'm fairly sure it'll be an instant buy for me based on their reputation and the fact that I really would like a contemporary triple. Be aware that you'll need Chewbacca to assist you if you are going to fly the Falcon though, otherwise Han will accidentally land it on a taxiway. :biggrin:

In the meantime, if you want a fun thing that's a bit different from those guys, check out their Bell 47 Sioux helicopter, which is pretty cool. It's great for checking out scenery with that big perspex bubble canopy and fun in that it is a piston engined chopper as opposed to the mainly turbine ones these days. Amazingly, a real Bell 47 once set an altitude record of over 18,000 feet, which is pretty impressive for any chopper, let alone one which was designed over 70 years ago.

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Oh wow, a Falcon 50! That is more than enough for me. I have been waiting years for a well done Falcon to show up in a sim.

I have flown Wilco's Falcon but uh.. I'll refrain from saying anything else about it. (If you've got nothing nice to say..)

 

I'll break out my wallet when FSW releases that bird. Very nice!
 

The MU-2 has been a very fun turboprop experience.

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Great news! The quality of this developer's products is improving with every aircraft.

Bill

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1 hour ago, 777200lrf said:

Is the Falcon going to have a fmc and Navigraph update compatibility?

No, like the Lear 35A, it will come with the GNS530 and support for the GTN750 (actually, dual GTN750s mounted in the console between the pilots) if you have the GTN750 from Flight1. Users desiring a FMC will need to add in a third party FMC unit.

The FSW Falcon 50 is being modeled after an early production Falcon 50 and is essentially a steam gauge a/c. A lot of effort is being put into realistic systems simulation.

Al

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2 hours ago, ark said:

No, like the Lear 35A, it will come with the GNS530 and support for the GTN750 (actually, dual GTN750s mounted in the console between the pilots) if you have the GTN750 from Flight1. Users desiring a FMC will need to add in a third party FMC unit.

The FSW Falcon 50 is being modeled after an early production Falcon 50 and is essentially a steam gauge a/c. A lot of effort is being put into realistic systems simulation.

Al

Too bad, every picture of the cockpit I have found there have a dual fmc setup. This Falcon from 1988

 

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Glass is cool, but I'm very pumped about a steam gauge version of the Falcon! Sounds perfect!

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10 hours ago, 777200lrf said:

Too bad, every picture of the cockpit I have found there have a dual fmc setup.

 

 

Yes, I understand, but the issue is that developing an FMC is a huge task and currently beyond what a very small (essentially one person) company like FSW is willing to take on. The dual GPS units (e.g,, GTN750s) will mount in place of the FMCs in the picture.

On a personal note, I  also was initially disappointed that there would not be an FMC in the Falcon 50, but after flying the PMDG 737NGX with an FMC for a while I found I much prefer the GTN750 approach as in the Lear35 -- requires more hands on flying such as when meeting altitude and speed restrictions during SIDs and STARs, etc. I don't fly the PMDG 737 any more.

To each his own.

Al

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Steam gauge w/GTN integration sounds perfect. The WIP pics look excellent. Looking forward to this one.

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On 11/7/2017 at 7:58 AM, ark said:

Yes, I understand, but the issue is that developing an FMC is a huge task and currently beyond what a very small (essentially one person) company like FSW is willing to take on. The dual GPS units (e.g,, GTN750s) will mount in place of the FMCs in the picture.

On a personal note, I  also was initially disappointed that there would not be an FMC in the Falcon 50, but after flying the PMDG 737NGX with an FMC for a while I found I much prefer the GTN750 approach as in the Lear35 -- requires more hands on flying such as when meeting altitude and speed restrictions during SIDs and STARs, etc. I don't fly the PMDG 737 any more.

To each his own.

Al

Ernie of fsbuild used to create gauges and fmc I think called isg, I wonder if that could be licensed here and placed as an fmc for the Falcon?

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2 hours ago, 777200lrf said:

Ernie of fsbuild used to create gauges and fmc I think called isg, I wonder if that could be licensed here and placed as an fmc for the Falcon?

I can't answer your question (you could email FSW and ask), but my guess would be that at this late stage of development any FMC capability would have to be via an addon FMC by the user, such as the freeware Honeywell FMC by Garrett Smith or the vasFMC, or a payware FMC.  However, I don't have a feel for how well they would work, or whether such addon FMCs require the a/c to have an integrated autothrottle capability which the FSW version doesn't have. Might make for an interesting do it yourself project though for those so inclined.

Al 

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Al, I'm going to take the phrase, "at this late stage of development," as a positive sign that things are going well on the development front! :-)

Looking forward to my three-holer business jet!

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Hi Folks,

Yeah - Ernie’s still around - I think he’s the guy who did the TDFI glass and who MilViz was waiting for to work on the Proline gauges for the infamous King Air and Lear 60...

Used the ISG stuff on many years with FS9 on 2D panels...

Regards,

Scott

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16 minutes ago, scottb613 said:

Hi Folks,

Yeah - Ernie’s still around - I think he’s the guy who did the TDFI glass and who MilViz was waiting for to work on the Proline gauges for the infamous King Air and Lear 60...

Used the ISG stuff on many years with FS9 on 2D panels...

Regards,

Scott

Turns out FSW did contact Ernie a while back, but there was only limited response. I'm also told Ernie's Facebook page has been inactive for quite a while now, which makes me wonder if he is still 'active' as far as new sim products go.

Al

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2 hours ago, rightseat said:

Al, I'm going to take the phrase, "at this late stage of development," as a positive sign that things are going well on the development front! :-)

Looking forward to my three-holer business jet!

My understanding is the bulk of the systems modeling is done, which was a big task. I think the goal is to have things competed by late Dec or sometime in Jan at the latest. Mark has to deal with some unpredictable health issues which slow him down at times. The Falcon 50 is FSW's most complex undertaking. It is a lot of work for one guy, especially given the level of systems depth he wants, which is greater than currently in the Lear35.

Al

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1 minute ago, ark said:

My understanding is the bulk of the systems modeling is done, which was a big task. I think the goal is to have things competed by late Dec or sometime in Jan at the latest. Mark has to deal with some unpredictable health issues which slows him down at times. The Falcon 50 is FSW's most complex undertaking. It is a lot of work for one guy, especially given the level of systems depth he wants, which is greater than currently in the Lear35.

Al

I'm sure we all hope Mark is well, and I am very excited to hear that the Falcon is even MORE complex than the Lear. :-)

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Hi Al,

Hah - Ernie was never really that chatty even on his own support forum...

Thanks for the info - honestly - as long as I can fly realistically - I’m good with a GTN or GNS...

Any new public updates on the Falcon - Facebook makes it even harder for those without accounts to access - so I avoid it like the plague...

Regards,

Scott

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Hi Al,

Yeah - ignore my last - I see the stats...

Yeah - been following Mark”s posts a bit on FSDeveloper and it’s obvious he has an extreme interest in the smallest detail...

Regards,

Scott

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"Let's hope my intervention will not be required for the 50."

Stated that way, I have to agree.

However, being realistic, I’m sure there will be opportunities for improvements.  In this case we have someone who has been working on a complex simulation for over a year essentially single handedly.  In contrast, it is not uncommon, but in fact rather the norm, for larger developers like PMDG, MILVIZ, and FLIGHT1, etc,  to have to put out updates and fixes to their products.  So I won’t be shocked if the same thing happens with the FSW Falcon 50. While I’m sure inputs in support of improvements will be appreciated if needed, no one should feel burdened or obligated to participate in that process.

My 2 cents.

Al

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