GTN 750 + default Cessna 172

[Wickerman88 1]

On 5/27/2018 at 8:31 PM, Bourrinopathe said:

Hopefully this will be fixed with the upcoming REP version.
With the latest version the .acf is not modified correctly and the 3D models for the static elements are not attached to the aircraft file.
If you're familiar with the Plane Maker you can attach the rep_statics.obj (in \Standard\Misc Objects), then the wheel chocks and other objects should be displayed correctly.

Otherwise, please wait for a fix.
The mod is still compatible with the default 172 (latest XP stable version).
Thanks!

Same problem here with the newest version of REP.

Also I'm not able to move the mixture lever with this version and the newest REP Version, so I can't start the engine.

[Dolev Ravid 1]

hi guys, 

i would like to install the GTN 750 with my REP 172, but didn't liked the fact it has two GTN's 

how do i build it to be able only on the upper side? 

any help ? 

 

[Bourrinopathe 138]

@Wickerman88 Thanks for the report. I've just checked on my versions (XP 11.25b1, REP 3.4.5a1) and I have the same issue.
A line of code for the manipulator (control command) of the mixture lever in the cockpit .obj file is probably not updated correctly by the REP installer (which alters the cockpit .obj).

I'll have to check with Claudio from SimCoders to fix this problem as it's bound to the REP installer.
You can still use the mixture lever by assigning a physical axis if you have one available.
Otherwise, I'd suggest only using the 172 REP version or the 172 GTN version from this mod (still fully compatible with the latest XP version, stable or beta).

Same issue for the additional objects from the REP. They're added to the .acf using the installer. The current REP version does not update the .acf from the mod.

You can use the .acf from this archive (it's the version from the mod, with the REP objects (wheelchocks, covers, etc.)).
Make sure to keep a backup of your original file first!
(note that this doesn't fix the mixture lever issue).

I'll notify Claudio about the issues. Hopefully they will be fixed in a future version, or I'll update the mod description and remove the REP compatibility to avoid further issues.

Also, please note that SimCoders does not develop the Reality Expansion Packs on Windows and thus does not use the GTN from Reality XP (windows only).
So please, don't bother them with details as they can't cross-check if the mod is compatible with any windows-only content.

Thanks for chiming in 😉
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@Dolev Ravid The only way to modify a virtual cockpit instruments layout in X-Plane (at this time) is to edit different files (.acf, .obj) and add your own 3D models if required (just as I did).
It's unfortunately a time-consuming process and does not allow easy placement for any configuration as you have to edit the files for each version you'd want to use. Just move a button, and you have to do it all over again.

So, if you really want to use a GTN 750 + GNS 430 (for example), you'll have to modify the required files.
You can attach/remove and place instruments to the panel using the Plane Maker, but you'll have to modify the *_cockpit.obj to make the instruments interactable (pushing buttons, turning knobs, etc.).
Depending on the instruments, you'll also have to check that the dynamic surfaces (instruments displays and such) are configured correctly.
To my knowledge, there's also no existing plugin that allows importing and exporting .obj with the specific code for the current X-Plane version (including the recent manipulators) (maybe AC3D plugin is updated by now).

That's mostly why there are not a lot of instruments modifications floating around 😉
Nevertheless, if you're really stubborn, you can modify your own cockpit (almost) to your liking.

Edited July 4, 2018 by Bourrinopathe

[Wickerman88 1]

Thx for reply, so I'll wait for an update. I don't have an axis for the mixture

[Wickerman88 1]

REP 3.4.5 is out,

edit

Bugs are still there (no wheel chocks, no tie downs, Mixture lever doesn't move).

Do we have to wait for an update of your mod?

Edited August 7, 2018 by Wickerman88

[Bourrinopathe 138]

Thanks for the report Wickerman. I just sent another message to SimCoders. Hopefully they'll take a look at what could go wrong with the installer.

The compatibility process does not happen on my end, and, to my knowledge, my mod is still fully compatible with XP 11.25 (stable and beta).
Something with REP's installation script fails to add the static objects and modify the mixture lever animation code.

Please try using these files (make a backup copy of your files first):

C172 GTN (v1.0) REP (v3.4.5) compatibility (temporary) fix

I manually updated the files the REP installer failed to modify.
Your Skyhawk should be compatible with the future REP updates as long as they do not modify those files. Just drop the REP folder in the plugins folder as usual.

Please let me know if this fix helps.

[Wickerman88 1]

thx, it works...mixture is moveable and the chocks are visible.

I will make an flight the next days to test the rest 🙂

[Bourrinopathe 138]

Thanks for the confirmation and glad it worked 😉

I'm currently working with Claudio from Simcoders to update the REP installer. We're getting there.
The culprit might have been some typos in the installation script.
One more thing to fix and it should be updated on the store as soon as possible.
Next time you'll download the REP 172 from the store, the installer should work on my GTN mod.

[Wickerman88 1]

Thx, I also posted this in Claudio's board...

Do I need the fixed installer later on or can I stay with you temp fix?

[Bourrinopathe 138]

You should be fine with the temp fix. No need to reinstall your REP.

[Bourrinopathe 138]

Minor update:
- updated RealityXP.GTN.ini file to include the latest improvements (RXP GTN 750/650 Touch X-Plane v2.5.3) 

The updated file is already included in the mod archive shared in this thread.

You can just copy-paste the content of the ini to update your existing version (backup your own settings if necessary):
 

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[GTN]
; comma separated list of gauges
gauges = GTN_650_2, GTN_750_1

[GTN_750_1]
; comma separated list of read only settings.
locked = CopilotSide, RadiosPair, AutoNavSource, FuelType
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, PANELS
; is the master device if true.
MasterDevice = false
; connects GPS to copilot side if true.
CopilotSide = false
; selects COM/NAV Radios '1' or '2'.
RadiosPair = 1
; uses computer time if true, simulator time otherwise.
ComputerTime = false
; reduce screen update rate by half.
ReduceRate = false
; integral lighting rheostat index (0 to 3) or percent (-100 to 0)
Rheostat.Display = 0
; integral lighting rheostat index (0 to 3) or percent (-100 to 0)
Rheostat.Buttons = -75
; connects GPS to Autopilot if true.
LinkOto = true
; connects GPS to HSI if true.
LinkHsi = true 
; connects GPS to HSI course motor if true.
LinkCrs = false
; connects GPS to OBS input if true (LinkHsi/OBS or AutoNavSource/OBS).
LinkObs = false
; connects GPS to VOR if true.
LinkVor = false
; connects CDI key to NAV/GPS switch if true.
AutoNavGps = true 
; enables automatic GPS/VLOC selection.
AutoSelect = true 
; selects VLOC NAV '1' or '2'. '0' selects same source as 'RadiosPair'.
AutoNavSource = 0
; sets device power source: ALWAYS_ON,AVIONICS_BUS,MAIN_BATTERY
PowerSource = AVIONICS_BUS
; connects GPS to Shadin Air Data computer if true.
UseAirData = true 
; connects GPS to Shadin Fuel Data computer if true.
UseFuelData = true 
; connects GPS to Audio Panel if true.
UseAudioPanel = true 
; connects GPS to Transponder if true.
UseTransponder = true 
; connects GPS to RYAN 9900BX if true.
UseRyanTcad = true 
; sets TCAD sound alerts volume in percent: 0 to 100.
RyanTcadVolume = 50
; sets TCAD maximum number of targets to X-Plane AI Traffic Count.
UseTcadAiCount = true
; enable device failures if true.
UseFailures = false
; uses Simulator GPS commands if true.
UseSimGpsCmds = false
; updates Simulator GPS flight plan if true.
LinkSimGps = false
; saves the active route as a Simulator flight plan if true.
AutoSavePln = false
; sets transponder VFR code (octal default: #1200).
VFRcode = #1200
; sets fuel type: AVGAS,JETA,JETB,DIESEL
FuelType = AVGAS
; sets ownship icon type: 
; AUTO,LOW_WING,HIGH_WING,KIT_PLANE,TURBOPROP,TWIN_ENGINE,SINGLE_JET,BUSINESS_JET,2BLADES,3BLADES,4BLADES,ARROW
OwnshipIcon = HIGH_WING
; selects the default database: 0: 'Garmin (North America)', 1: 'Jeppesen (Worldwide)'
NavDbType = 1
; sets TAWS type: TERR,TAWS_B,TAWS_A
TawsMode = TERR
; sets TAWS surface: HARD,HARD_SOFT,WATER,ANY
TawsSurface = HARD_SOFT
; TAWS minimum runway length (feet)
TawsMinLength = 40
; TAWS approach air speed (knots), -1 (auto detect Vref: 64)
TawsApprSpeed = 64
; TAWS maximum flap extension speed (knots) or -1 (auto detect Vfe: 110)
TawsFlapSpeed = 110
; TAWS maximum gear extension speed (knots) or -1 (auto detect Vle: 0)
TawsGearSpeed = 0
; sets voice type: MALE,FEMALE
VoicePref = FEMALE
; sets master sound volume in percent: 0 to 100.
MasterVolume = 100
; mute sound when simulator window looses focus if false.
NoAudioFocus = false
; selects the CPU running the trainer process: 1 to 32
; 0: last core, -1: automatic.
CpuAffinity = -1

[GTN_750_1.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = false
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = false
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = WINDOW
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1256,1052,666,634
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true 
; display mouse tooltips if true.
tooltips = false
; freeze display position if true.
locked = false
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = false
; VR mode position and dimension (left,top,width,height) (requires XP11.20)
vrmode.rect = 0,790,830,790
; display as popout window if true.
undocked = false

[GTN_750_1.PANELS]
; display window if true.
visible = true 
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = true 
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANELS
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 0,1024,602,710
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 1
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true 
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = true 
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = false

[GTN_650_2]
; comma separated list of read only settings.
locked = CopilotSide, RadiosPair, AutoNavSource, FuelType
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, PANELS
; is the master device if true.
MasterDevice = false
; connects GPS to copilot side if true.
CopilotSide = false
; selects COM/NAV Radios '1' or '2'.
RadiosPair = 2
; uses computer time if true, simulator time otherwise.
ComputerTime = false
; reduce screen update rate by half.
ReduceRate = false
; integral lighting rheostat index (0 to 3) or percent (-100 to 0)
Rheostat.Display = 0
; integral lighting rheostat index (0 to 3) or percent (-100 to 0)
Rheostat.Buttons = -75
; connects GPS to Autopilot if true.
LinkOto = true 
; connects GPS to HSI if true.
LinkHsi = true 
; connects GPS to HSI course motor if true.
LinkCrs = false
; connects GPS to OBS input if true (LinkHsi/OBS or AutoNavSource/OBS).
LinkObs = false
; connects GPS to VOR if true.
LinkVor = false
; connects CDI key to NAV/GPS switch if true.
AutoNavGps = true 
; enables automatic GPS/VLOC selection.
AutoSelect = true 
; selects VLOC NAV '1' or '2'. '0' selects same source as 'RadiosPair'.
AutoNavSource = 0
; sets device power source: ALWAYS_ON,AVIONICS_BUS,MAIN_BATTERY
PowerSource = AVIONICS_BUS
; connects GPS to Shadin Air Data computer if true.
UseAirData = true 
; connects GPS to Shadin Fuel Data computer if true.
UseFuelData = true 
; connects GPS to Audio Panel if true.
UseAudioPanel = true 
; connects GPS to Transponder if true.
UseTransponder = true 
; connects GPS to RYAN 9900BX if true.
UseRyanTcad = true 
; sets TCAD sound alerts volume in percent: 0 to 100.
RyanTcadVolume = 50
; sets TCAD maximum number of targets to X-Plane AI Traffic Count.
UseTcadAiCount = false
; enable device failures if true.
UseFailures = false
; uses Simulator GPS commands if true.
UseSimGpsCmds = false
; updates Simulator GPS flight plan if true.
LinkSimGps = false
; saves the active route as a Simulator flight plan if true.
AutoSavePln = false
; sets transponder VFR code (octal default: #1200).
VFRcode = #1200
; sets fuel type: AVGAS,JETA,JETB,DIESEL
FuelType = AVGAS
; sets ownship icon type: 
; AUTO,LOW_WING,HIGH_WING,KIT_PLANE,TURBOPROP,TWIN_ENGINE,SINGLE_JET,BUSINESS_JET,2BLADES,3BLADES,4BLADES,ARROW
OwnshipIcon = HIGH_WING
; selects the default database: 0: 'Garmin (North America)', 1: 'Jeppesen (Worldwide)'
NavDbType = 1
; sets TAWS type: TERR,TAWS_B,TAWS_A
TawsMode = TERR
; sets TAWS surface: HARD,HARD_SOFT,WATER,ANY
TawsSurface = HARD_SOFT
; TAWS minimum runway length (feet)
TawsMinLength = 40
; TAWS approach air speed (knots), -1 (auto detect Vref: 64)
TawsApprSpeed = 64
; TAWS maximum flap extension speed (knots) or -1 (auto detect Vfe: 110)
TawsFlapSpeed = 110
; TAWS maximum gear extension speed (knots) or -1 (auto detect Vle: 0)
TawsGearSpeed = 0
; sets voice type: MALE,FEMALE
VoicePref = FEMALE
; sets master sound volume in percent: 0 to 100.
MasterVolume = 100
; mute sound when simulator window looses focus if false.
NoAudioFocus = false
; selects the CPU running the trainer process: 1 to 32
; 0: last core, -1: automatic.
CpuAffinity = -1

[GTN_650_2.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = false
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = false
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = WINDOW
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 1256,419,664,280
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true 
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = false
; VR mode position and dimension (left,top,width,height) (requires XP11.20)
vrmode.rect = 0,350,830,350
; display mouse tooltips if true.
tooltips = false
; freeze display position if true.
locked = false
; display as popout window if true.
undocked = false

[GTN_650_2.PANELS]
; display window if true.
visible = true 
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = true 
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANELS
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 0,271,602,268
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true 
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = false
 

 

[GCBraun 2,390]

Hi, I have just installed the mod with the latest REP package and the AP does not seem to be following the GPS, even though I have set CDI to GPS and activated NAV on the AP panel.

Anything special I need to do?

Thanks

[Bourrinopathe 138]

Hi,

You might want to check if the GTN unit you're using as main navigation device is set to Master in the GTN plugin settings.
I left it undefined by default so the user can choose which unit is set to Master.

Edited August 29, 2018 by Bourrinopathe

[GCBraun 2,390]

That was it. Thanks a lot!

[X P Flyer 4]

On 2/16/2018 at 3:42 AM, Bourrinopathe said:

SPECIAL THANKS
Thanks to Laminar Research for their community-friendly flight simulator.
Special thanks to Austin Meyer and Massimo Durando.
Huge thanks to Reality XP president, Jean-Luc, for his invaluable help and inputs for this mod, and for the fantastic products and support.
SimCoders for making their REP compatible with this mod.
Community member Bluebell2, for sharing an original GTN 750 mod that inspired this one.
The awesome X-Plane and AVSIM community and testers for helping and supporting this mod and similar projects.
Keep being awesome, keep sharing awesomeness 😉

 

(extract the content of the archive in your aircraft folder)
(readme file included)

And a Special Thanks to YOU that allowed me to use your mod and have a beautiful C172 cockpit!