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FSX OOM even with 1GB Free VAS

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FSXCYYZEGLL
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On 08/11/2017 at 10:24 AM, Jim Young said:

If you monitor your VAS during a flight using the FSUIPC utility as described in the AVSIM CTD Guide, you can see your VAS fluctuating constantly.  On approach it will go down to maybe 200MB's then shoot back up to over 1GB, then suddenly back down to 400MB's.  If you have high settings and using commercial eye-candy scenery, and lots of Autogen, you will be lucky to touchdown and may not even be able to taxi if you do land.  It all depends on the scenario, your views, the weather, the number of AI in the area, and then the settings.  There is no solution.  FSX is an old program that is not optimized to work well with current OS's but still does a pretty good job most of the time.  The eye-candy at airports and some photoscenery and Autogen are not VAS friendly.  They tend to use the space fairly fast.

So from what I understand you are saying even though my VAS indication is clearly showing that it is a full GB away from being at the 4GB limit, that during the approach and taxi in the VAS is spiking which won't be measured by process explorer? And that spike is causing the OOM?

Signed Jon.

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Jim Young
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That is correct.  1GB is not very much especially if you have high settings and flying into an eye-candy airport or scenery and/or heavy weather.  For instance, here is an fsuipc.txt (log) of a flight I took from FlightBeam KSFO to Orbx KSAN in real weather in the PMDG 738:

Spoiler

1109 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61637.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0)
     1109 Initialising SimConnect data requests now
     1109 FSUIPC Menu entry added
     1125 G:\FSX\FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM.FLT
     1125 G:\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\Aircreation_582SL\Aircreation_582SL.AIR
     3234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 0
     3516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3457412
    13328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3384384
    23328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3280272
    33328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3208548
    45531 G:\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG 737-800NGX WL\B737-800WL.AIR
    72781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2947276
    73234 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ...
    73297 User Aircraft ID 1 supplied, now being used
    73391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1911448
    83391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2514584
    93391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2478840
   103578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2108360
   113578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1743840
   144547 Weather Mode now = Theme
   144547 C:\Users\JimY\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\Previous flight.FLT
   144625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1841376
   146641 Aircraft="Boeing 737-832NGX Delta Air Lines Winglets"
   146641 System time = 03/10/2017 15:34:05, Simulator time = 15:31:40 (22:31Z)
   153531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2392108
   163531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2464828
   172375 Weather Mode now = Real World
   173766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1815828
   183766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1675572
   193766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1707452
   203828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1739172
   223703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2437704
   233766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2439196
   243953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2437704
   253766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2439228
   264016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1733536
   273891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1737728
   283953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1606600
   293953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1288244
   303750 Starting everything now ...
   303984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 968360
   305016 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled
   313953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 943516
   324000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 937056
   334078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 981404
   354156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1008408
   364172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 891724
   374219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 839268
   384250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 787052
   394297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 818216
   404344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 819316
   424453 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 803124
   444547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 803648
   454594 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 803248
   474641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 802452
   494750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 792388
   504781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 792816
   514828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 792256
   544938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 822408
   555000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 826684
   565078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 771304
   575109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 771876
   585156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 770764
   595188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 754572
   615297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 748352
   625344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 748840
   635406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 749360
   645422 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 746776
   685641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 747852
   695688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 748452
   705703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 746816
   745891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 743416
   755969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 739012
   766047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 727448
   776094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 706364
   786125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 725016
   796188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 730768
   806250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 744724
   816297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 760428
   826344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1111896
   836375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1109320
   846391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1109808
   866484 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1061232
   876563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1061676
   886609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1060984
   896641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1060236
   906688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1077948
   916719 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1076892
   926797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1073000
   936828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1080044
   946859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1085908
   956891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1045112
   966922 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1059536
   976984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1055676
   987031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1103912
   997094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1106996
  1007125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1110460
  1017188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1120380
  1027234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1070256
  1037281 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1114004
  1047328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1112552
  1057359 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1053456
  1067406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1088968
  1077453 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1086516
  1087516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1127468
  1097547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1126612
  1107609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1125796
  1117672 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1118292
  1127703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1136556
  1137766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1143648
  1147797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1125332
  1157875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1100568
  1167938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1105172
  1177969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1097256
  1188016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1054472
  1198047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1096600
  1208125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1116720
  1218156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1138768
  1228219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1061332
  1238266 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1163240
  1248344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1243796
  1258359 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1266216
  1268406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1276188
  1278469 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1282276
  1288516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1271220
  1298531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1301876
  1308594 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302924
  1318656 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302904
  1328703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302920
  1338750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1311652
  1342156 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 1039 secs = 27.7 fps
  1342156    Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0)
  1348797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1216872
  1358828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1225744
  1368875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1299976
  1378938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302720
  1388984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1311768
  1399016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1305884
  1409078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1306408
  1419125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1323288
  1429156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1286872
  1440094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1258364
  1440125 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 98 secs = 33.0 fps
  1440125    Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0)
  1449281 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1231768
  1459328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1221100
  1469375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1248928
  1489469 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1265136
  1499531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1258792
  1504328 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 63 secs = 31.7 fps
  1504328    Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0)
  1509750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1237240
  1519625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1228864
  1529688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1220860
  1539719 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1214372
  1549766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1230648
  1556172 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented ***
  1559875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1138960
  1565641 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 56 secs = 22.3 fps
  1565641    Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0)
  1569938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1123476
  1579984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1042260
  1590016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1007432
  1600047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1036552
  1610109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1036660
  1620188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1024172
  1630219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1025548
  1640234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 968480
  1651234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1055212
  1651594 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented ***
  1660406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 869500
  1670422 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 876712
  1680547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 844616
  1690563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 727136
  1700594 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 722516
  1710641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 742492
  1720703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 741520
  1730781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 738988
  1740859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 733824
  1751641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 722732
  1752484 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented ***
  1760969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 759476
  1771031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 670892
  1781094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 646892
  1791125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 660092
  1801297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 618588
  1811266 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 648464
  1821313 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 641768
  1831375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 585184
  1841406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 796936
  1851469 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 797476
  1861500 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 799408
  1871547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 798764
  1891188 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented ***
  1891656 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 761636
  1901719 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 789348
  1921813 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 807304
  1931875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 801280
  1951984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 750500
  1962000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 814156
  1982094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 753484
  1992172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 799180
  2002219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 800604
  2012281 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 834944
  2042438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 843764
  2072578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 855260
  2082625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 849856
  2102734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 849868
  2132875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 853384
  2163000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 843504
  2183125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 853364
  2213297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 850120
  2223328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 850124
  2303766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 847488
  2313781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 850124
  2333891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 894160
  2343953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 955804
  2353984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 988472
  2364047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 959492
  2374078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1016296
  2384141 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 987696
  2394188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1016676
  2444484 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1011528
  2454563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 907248
  2472156 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented ***
  2474672 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 903048
  2504828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 904464
  2514875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 895024
  2534969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 894076
  2565125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 893092
  2575172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 894428
  2642531 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented ***
  2645547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 866604
  2655609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 567108
  2675688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 551556
  2695797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 490812
  2705875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 518316
  2715906 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 462868
  2725938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 462812
  2736031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 457976
  2746094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 441936
  2756156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 429932
  2766234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 409216
  2776250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 402360
  2786297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 398472
  2796375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 388712
  2806453 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 378600
  2816531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 374792
  2826563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 361652
  2836609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 343188
  2846750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 326604
  2856734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 319424
  2866813 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 347520
  2876859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 381976
  2886938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 375600
  2897016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396276
  2907109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 373804
  2917109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 371820
  2927203 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 381312
  2937250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 386400
  2947297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 391204
  2957375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 401436
  2967438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 403936
  2977484 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 401344
  2987578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 400076
  2997625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396428
  3007672 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 398420
  3017734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 394984
  3027766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 394612
  3037797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396948
  3047859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396496
  3057953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 395084
  3068000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 379496
  3078078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 316404
  3088141 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 395512
  3098219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 401076
  3108250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 390732
  3118313 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 422240
  3128359 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 422080
  3138438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 417296
  3148500 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 415360
  3158531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 419048
  3168563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 419332
  3178625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 424900
  3188703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 429772
  3198734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 425552
  3208781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 433376
  3218828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 443796
  3228906 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 476240
  3238969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 429060
  3249063 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 435712
  3259078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 445688
  3269172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 446500
  3279188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 446740
  3289266 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 347044
  3299313 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 328032
  3309344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 422336
  3319438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 415644
  3329516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 451264
  3339531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 439512
  3349609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 407520
  3359656 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 448532
  3369688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 411316
  3379781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 410108
  3389828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 409532
  3399844 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 402200
  3409922 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 411916
  3419969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 444544
  3430031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 448060
  3440109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 341388
  3450203 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 350440
  3460234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 452976
  3469328 === Closing session: waiting for DLLStop to be called ...
  3471172 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 1903 secs = 28.7 fps
  3471172    Max AI traffic was 294 aircraft (Deleted 0)
  3474891 === DLLStop called ...
  3474891 === Closing external processes we started ...
  3475891 === About to kill any Lua plug-ins still running ...
  3476047 === Closing global Lua thread
  3477047 === About to kill my timers ...
  3477250 === Restoring window procs ...
  3477250 === Unloading libraries ...
  3477250 === stopping other threads ...
  3477250 === ... Memory checking ...
  3477250 === ... Button scanning ...
  3477344 === ... Axis scanning ...
  3477453 === Releasing joystick devices ...
  3477453 === Freeing macro memory
  3477453 === Removing any offset overrides
  3477453 === Clearing any displays left
  3477453 === NOTE: not calling SimConnect_Close ...
  3477453 === AI slots deleted!
  3477453 === Freeing button memory ...
  3477453 === Closing my Windows ...
  3477453 === Freeing FS libraries ...
  3478453 === Closing devices ...
  3478453 === Closing the Log ... Bye Bye! ...
  3478453 System time = 03/10/2017 16:29:37, Simulator time = 13:48:45 (20:48Z)
  3478453 *** FSUIPC log file being closed
Minimum frame rate was 11.0 fps, Maximum was 89.5 fps
Minimum available memory recorded was 309Mb
Average frame rate for running time of 3164 secs = 28.4 fps
G3D fix: Passes 556509, Null pointers 0, Bad pointers 18, Separate instances 6
Maximum AI traffic for session was 294 aircraft
Memory managed: 1484 Allocs, 1484 Freed
********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********

 

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Oracle427    45

Oracle427
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Repeating what was said earlier. 32 bit apps can't page the full 4GB of address space. You'll get 3GB at best.

Secondly, the memory can't be partially allocated. If the application is currentry using 2GB and issues a request for another 500MB, it will be issued. If the application were to requesr for 1.1GB, it will fail right then and there without going above 2GB usage. Your log is showing history not trends nor requested load.

Clearly an oversimplified example, but it's another way of saying that you can only sspeculate the limited information you have. This is much wisdom here in checking the guide and reducing detail sliders. This is the limitation of the platform that so many have learned to cope with over the years.

I don't know if the FSX application provides logging that includes memory allocation. I've never had a reason to look at that, but it is something that I have dealt with at work. However with my systems I know exactly how memory is used our at least how it is designed to be used. FSX is a black box.

Even if you found a log that told you by how much the memory limits were exceeded, the above advice remains exactly the same. Also see definition of insanity. :)

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FSXCYYZEGLL    5

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3 hours ago, Jim Young said:

That is correct.  1GB is not very much especially if you have high settings and flying into an eye-candy airport or scenery and/or heavy weather.  For instance, here is an fsuipc.txt (log) of a flight I took from FlightBeam KSFO to Orbx KSAN in real weather in the PMDG 738:

  Reveal hidden contents

1109 Running in "Microsoft Flight Simulator X", Version: 10.0.61637.0 (SimConnect: 10.0.61259.0)
     1109 Initialising SimConnect data requests now
     1109 FSUIPC Menu entry added
     1125 G:\FSX\FLIGHTS\OTHER\FLTSIM.FLT
     1125 G:\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\Aircreation_582SL\Aircreation_582SL.AIR
     3234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 0
     3516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3457412
    13328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3384384
    23328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3280272
    33328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3208548
    45531 G:\FSX\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG 737-800NGX WL\B737-800WL.AIR
    72781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2947276
    73234 Aircraft loaded: running normally now ...
    73297 User Aircraft ID 1 supplied, now being used
    73391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1911448
    83391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2514584
    93391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2478840
   103578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2108360
   113578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1743840
   144547 Weather Mode now = Theme
   144547 C:\Users\JimY\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX\Previous flight.FLT
   144625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1841376
   146641 Aircraft="Boeing 737-832NGX Delta Air Lines Winglets"
   146641 System time = 03/10/2017 15:34:05, Simulator time = 15:31:40 (22:31Z)
   153531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2392108
   163531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2464828
   172375 Weather Mode now = Real World
   173766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1815828
   183766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1675572
   193766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1707452
   203828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1739172
   223703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2437704
   233766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2439196
   243953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2437704
   253766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2439228
   264016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1733536
   273891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1737728
   283953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1606600
   293953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1288244
   303750 Starting everything now ...
   303984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 968360
   305016 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled
   313953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 943516
   324000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 937056
   334078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 981404
   354156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1008408
   364172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 891724
   374219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 839268
   384250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 787052
   394297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 818216
   404344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 819316
   424453 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 803124
   444547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 803648
   454594 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 803248
   474641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 802452
   494750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 792388
   504781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 792816
   514828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 792256
   544938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 822408
   555000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 826684
   565078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 771304
   575109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 771876
   585156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 770764
   595188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 754572
   615297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 748352
   625344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 748840
   635406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 749360
   645422 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 746776
   685641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 747852
   695688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 748452
   705703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 746816
   745891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 743416
   755969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 739012
   766047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 727448
   776094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 706364
   786125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 725016
   796188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 730768
   806250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 744724
   816297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 760428
   826344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1111896
   836375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1109320
   846391 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1109808
   866484 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1061232
   876563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1061676
   886609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1060984
   896641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1060236
   906688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1077948
   916719 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1076892
   926797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1073000
   936828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1080044
   946859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1085908
   956891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1045112
   966922 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1059536
   976984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1055676
   987031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1103912
   997094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1106996
  1007125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1110460
  1017188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1120380
  1027234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1070256
  1037281 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1114004
  1047328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1112552
  1057359 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1053456
  1067406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1088968
  1077453 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1086516
  1087516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1127468
  1097547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1126612
  1107609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1125796
  1117672 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1118292
  1127703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1136556
  1137766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1143648
  1147797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1125332
  1157875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1100568
  1167938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1105172
  1177969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1097256
  1188016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1054472
  1198047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1096600
  1208125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1116720
  1218156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1138768
  1228219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1061332
  1238266 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1163240
  1248344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1243796
  1258359 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1266216
  1268406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1276188
  1278469 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1282276
  1288516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1271220
  1298531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1301876
  1308594 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302924
  1318656 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302904
  1328703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302920
  1338750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1311652
  1342156 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 1039 secs = 27.7 fps
  1342156    Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0)
  1348797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1216872
  1358828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1225744
  1368875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1299976
  1378938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302720
  1388984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1311768
  1399016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1305884
  1409078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1306408
  1419125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1323288
  1429156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1286872
  1440094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1258364
  1440125 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 98 secs = 33.0 fps
  1440125    Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0)
  1449281 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1231768
  1459328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1221100
  1469375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1248928
  1489469 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1265136
  1499531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1258792
  1504328 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 63 secs = 31.7 fps
  1504328    Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0)
  1509750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1237240
  1519625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1228864
  1529688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1220860
  1539719 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1214372
  1549766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1230648
  1556172 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented ***
  1559875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1138960
  1565641 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 56 secs = 22.3 fps
  1565641    Max AI traffic was 281 aircraft (Deleted 0)
  1569938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1123476
  1579984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1042260
  1590016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1007432
  1600047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1036552
  1610109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1036660
  1620188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1024172
  1630219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1025548
  1640234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 968480
  1651234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1055212
  1651594 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented ***
  1660406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 869500
  1670422 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 876712
  1680547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 844616
  1690563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 727136
  1700594 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 722516
  1710641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 742492
  1720703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 741520
  1730781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 738988
  1740859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 733824
  1751641 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 722732
  1752484 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented ***
  1760969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 759476
  1771031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 670892
  1781094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 646892
  1791125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 660092
  1801297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 618588
  1811266 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 648464
  1821313 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 641768
  1831375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 585184
  1841406 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 796936
  1851469 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 797476
  1861500 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 799408
  1871547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 798764
  1891188 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented ***
  1891656 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 761636
  1901719 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 789348
  1921813 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 807304
  1931875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 801280
  1951984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 750500
  1962000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 814156
  1982094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 753484
  1992172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 799180
  2002219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 800604
  2012281 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 834944
  2042438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 843764
  2072578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 855260
  2082625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 849856
  2102734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 849868
  2132875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 853384
  2163000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 843504
  2183125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 853364
  2213297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 850120
  2223328 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 850124
  2303766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 847488
  2313781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 850124
  2333891 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 894160
  2343953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 955804
  2353984 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 988472
  2364047 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 959492
  2374078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1016296
  2384141 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 987696
  2394188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1016676
  2444484 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1011528
  2454563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 907248
  2472156 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented ***
  2474672 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 903048
  2504828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 904464
  2514875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 895024
  2534969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 894076
  2565125 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 893092
  2575172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 894428
  2642531 *** G3D bad pointer trapped and crash prevented ***
  2645547 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 866604
  2655609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 567108
  2675688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 551556
  2695797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 490812
  2705875 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 518316
  2715906 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 462868
  2725938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 462812
  2736031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 457976
  2746094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 441936
  2756156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 429932
  2766234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 409216
  2776250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 402360
  2786297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 398472
  2796375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 388712
  2806453 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 378600
  2816531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 374792
  2826563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 361652
  2836609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 343188
  2846750 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 326604
  2856734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 319424
  2866813 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 347520
  2876859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 381976
  2886938 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 375600
  2897016 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396276
  2907109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 373804
  2917109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 371820
  2927203 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 381312
  2937250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 386400
  2947297 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 391204
  2957375 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 401436
  2967438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 403936
  2977484 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 401344
  2987578 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 400076
  2997625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396428
  3007672 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 398420
  3017734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 394984
  3027766 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 394612
  3037797 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396948
  3047859 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 396496
  3057953 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 395084
  3068000 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 379496
  3078078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 316404
  3088141 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 395512
  3098219 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 401076
  3108250 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 390732
  3118313 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 422240
  3128359 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 422080
  3138438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 417296
  3148500 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 415360
  3158531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 419048
  3168563 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 419332
  3178625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 424900
  3188703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 429772
  3198734 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 425552
  3208781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 433376
  3218828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 443796
  3228906 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 476240
  3238969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 429060
  3249063 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 435712
  3259078 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 445688
  3269172 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 446500
  3279188 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 446740
  3289266 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 347044
  3299313 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 328032
  3309344 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 422336
  3319438 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 415644
  3329516 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 451264
  3339531 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 439512
  3349609 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 407520
  3359656 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 448532
  3369688 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 411316
  3379781 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 410108
  3389828 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 409532
  3399844 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 402200
  3409922 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 411916
  3419969 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 444544
  3430031 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 448060
  3440109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 341388
  3450203 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 350440
  3460234 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 452976
  3469328 === Closing session: waiting for DLLStop to be called ...
  3471172 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 1903 secs = 28.7 fps
  3471172    Max AI traffic was 294 aircraft (Deleted 0)
  3474891 === DLLStop called ...
  3474891 === Closing external processes we started ...
  3475891 === About to kill any Lua plug-ins still running ...
  3476047 === Closing global Lua thread
  3477047 === About to kill my timers ...
  3477250 === Restoring window procs ...
  3477250 === Unloading libraries ...
  3477250 === stopping other threads ...
  3477250 === ... Memory checking ...
  3477250 === ... Button scanning ...
  3477344 === ... Axis scanning ...
  3477453 === Releasing joystick devices ...
  3477453 === Freeing macro memory
  3477453 === Removing any offset overrides
  3477453 === Clearing any displays left
  3477453 === NOTE: not calling SimConnect_Close ...
  3477453 === AI slots deleted!
  3477453 === Freeing button memory ...
  3477453 === Closing my Windows ...
  3477453 === Freeing FS libraries ...
  3478453 === Closing devices ...
  3478453 === Closing the Log ... Bye Bye! ...
  3478453 System time = 03/10/2017 16:29:37, Simulator time = 13:48:45 (20:48Z)
  3478453 *** FSUIPC log file being closed
Minimum frame rate was 11.0 fps, Maximum was 89.5 fps
Minimum available memory recorded was 309Mb
Average frame rate for running time of 3164 secs = 28.4 fps
G3D fix: Passes 556509, Null pointers 0, Bad pointers 18, Separate instances 6
Maximum AI traffic for session was 294 aircraft
Memory managed: 1484 Allocs, 1484 Freed
********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********

 

Ok well I'll start turning some sliders down and also try and get you guys an fsuipc log, plus several of the other pieces of advice given on this forum, thanks for all the help it just really confused me how it would simply always OOM at Toronto even without approaching the 4GB limit, but the spiking makes sense i guess.

 

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spilok    1,132

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Only 1 answer.  I had the same and began questioning my involvement in my beloved hobby: Flight simulation.  I was miserable, day after day.  I was ready to move on to something other than Flight simulation.  Then, after reading about the many happy simmers out there, I decided to do what they were doing.

The answer, and the only answer in my humble opinion, is to go to a 64 bit program:  Prepar3d version 4.1   Absolutely NO MORE OOM's.

End of story.

Stan

 

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On 11.11.2017 at 1:31 AM, spilok said:

Only 1 answer.  I had the same and began questioning my involvement in my beloved hobby: Flight simulation.  I was miserable, day after day.  I was ready to move on to something other than Flight simulation.  Then, after reading about the many happy simmers out there, I decided to do what they were doing.

The answer, and the only answer in my humble opinion, is to go to a 64 bit program:  Prepar3d version 4.1   Absolutely NO MORE OOM's.

End of story.

Stan

 

It is uneconomical and unreasonable to pay a whole lot of bucks for a swap when you can fix the broken thing easily and constrain yourself to the KISS principle. Just read the AVSIM FSX Config Guide and don't run every feature and addon at once and at peak quality.

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On ‎11‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 3:23 PM, pracines said:

it is totally worth the cost to buy P3D and re buy PMDG products,

Why re buy PMDG? I can't afford to pay twice for 747, MD-11 and T7

Patricio Valdes

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It's your decision.  Yes, it's more money, but now I am finally enjoying my flight simming experience.  Kinda like a good steak....costs more, but a cheap steak isn't worth it at all.  You can't escape the fact that a 64 bit program is what is necessary for flight simming today.  Too much great scenery, great planes, great eye candy.  32 bits can't cut it.  The longer you wait to move, the more it will cost because you'll still be investing good money in FSX.   Just my opinion...take it for what it's worth.

Stan

 

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Jon, if you don't already have it, get FSX:SE - it's built with a more efficient and better-optimised compiler and includes a fix to flush all levels of detail in the terrain cache. It's usually significantly cheaper in sales after Christmas. As has already been suggested, use DX10 preview mode with Steve's DX10 Scenery Fixer. Also, you've probably already read it as you have PMDG aircraft but this is worth another read: https://support.precisionmanuals.com/kb/a108/vas-management-stopping-out-of-memory-oom-errors.aspx

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+2. It's simply not possible to use the PMDG 777 (or, for that matter, most any complex aircraft) with the sliders set that high and avoid the OOM problem. As spesimen said above, non-contiguous memory space is an issue that can't be overcome. And FSX is notorious for poor memory management.....Doug

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On ‎11‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 3:23 PM, pracines said:

The OOM solution is a 64bit flight sim - if you must fly the PMDG 777, then Prepar3D version 4 (64-bit) is your only option.

I thought AVSIM FSX Configuration Guide is the solution so far. 

Regarding on Prepar3D v4 (64-bit), will work with all FSX Add-on payware and freeware? It sounds like we can add some sceneries only and to purchase aircrafts again as PMDG, Level-D, and others ......

Going back to AVSIM FSX CG is the right option if not the best and with huge savings.

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On ‎11‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 7:31 PM, spilok said:

Prepar3d version 4.1   Absolutely NO MORE OOM's.

If we load FSX with only the airports in flight I guess we don't have OOM, do we?

Patricio Valdes

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10 minutes ago, trisho0 said:

If we load FSX with only the airports in flight I guess we don't have OOM, do we?

Airports only load if in a certain radius of your aircraft.  Photoscenery will load no matter where in the world it is located and whether you have a flight plan over it or not.

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15 minutes ago, Jim Young said:

Photoscenery will load no matter where in the world it is located and whether you have a flight plan over it or not.

You mean the Default sceneries right? Not the scenery payware correct?

Patricio Valdes

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When I ran Process Monitor during a flight I did not see any of my FSDT or any other payware airport scenery loading.   I did see some stuff from Orbx loading, like at Friday Harbor but that's from the bgl's in the Scenery/World/Scenery.

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