PC12 Checklist Procedure

[LZScout 5]

I'm really beginning to love the Carenado PC12 with all of Bert's and Autogyros' mods added. I've taken the checklists I can find (Carenado's supplied and the actual PC12 POH) and rewritten them to match the "flow" of the checklist found in the video "Flight Video Productions - The Pilatus PC-12 Flight Video" (https://www.fspilotshop.com/flight-video-productions-the-pilatus-flight-video-p-545.html). In doing so, besides my earlier issue of having to select "INGITION" to ON instead of "AUTO" (in order to start the engine), I found another discrepancy.

In the POH, Section 4.8 "Before Takeoff", item #14 calls for DC Amps Battery(s) be checked for 15 Amps maximum. It also states "if greater than 15 amps, delay takeoff until indication at or below 15 amps". Carenados' "Normal Procedures" checklist says the same thing.

The only places that I see an "Amp" readout on the panels of the virtual cockpit are:

1. The Overhead Panel

2. The EIS Panel

According to the POH, The BATT 1 and BATT 2 indicators show the voltage and current of the relevant battery. A positive BAT current (amp) indicates battery charging rate.

The GEN 1 and GEN 2 – AMP/VDC indicators are in the EIS. A current sensor installed near the generator 1 contactor will detect any current drawn from the generator and send the amps reading to the indicator. A positive GEN current indicates generator output.

 

What I’ve noticed in the Carenado PC12 is that both the overhead battery readouts and the EIS panel readouts are always the same with the Aircraft engine running and with both generators on. When you turn on a switch that draws current, each amp readout increases. In any case, with both avionics switches on, and with the Pitot heat on, the amp readouts show 39 amps.  This seems to violate the checklist requirement. Is anyone else getting something different? I am running my setup with Autogyro’s electrical mod.

[Bert Pieke 7,584]

It would be nice if the PC12 were simulated that accurately... it is not 

[LZScout 5]

If we could only have the talent to build it the way it should be.....

[Bert Pieke 7,584]

You can actually fine tune the AMP readouts to your liking!

In the GaugePC12 folder (in your panel.XX folder), open the Gauge_BATT1V4.xml file with Notepad.

You will find the following Update section:

             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_FUEL_PUMPS_RH,number) 5 *
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_FUEL_PUMPS_LH,number) 5 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_LANDING,number) 5 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_TAXI,number) 5 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_STROBE,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_BEACON,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_NAV,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_WING,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_PROBES,number) 3 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_LH_WSH,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_RH_WSH,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_COOLING_SYS,number) 5 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_HEATING_CABIN,number) 15 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_CABIN_FLOOD,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_COCKPIT_DOME,number) 2 * +
             (A:PROP DEICE SWITCH, BOOL) if{  10 +  }
             (A:AVIONICS MASTER SWITCH, bool) if{  20 +  }
             (A:AUTOPILOT MASTER,BOOL) if{  10 +  }
             (A:GENERAL ENG ANTI ICE POSITION:1, BOOL) if{  10 + }                         (>L:GENAMPS,number)    

 

This is where the AMPS readout is calculated.

You can reduce any of the individual AMP loads as you like..

For example, if you would like Avionics master to draw 5 amps, rather than 20.. change:

(A:AVIONICS MASTER SWITCH, bool) if{  5 +  }

etc

 

 

 

[scottb613 1,188]

Hi Folks,

Yeah - I've had this plane for a while but only started to grow on me as well - the mods plus dual RXP GNS installs are making the plane very enjoyable...

Need some new paints - Red and Cream anyone - WIP ?

Plus it really needs the Pilatus logo...

Regards,
Scott

[gregmorin 199]

looking forward to your paint Scott!

Greg

[briansommers 74]

I love red and cream. I'll get that one when it's ready.

[scottb613 1,188]

Hi Folks,

Thanks - yeah - I'm merely tracing the original blue and grey scheme Carenado supplied - even so all the vector (black) stripes need to be hand drawn over again for a good smooth anti-aliased line...  Thinking black and silver with white lines may be good as well - once done with my template - it's easy to change colors...

Regards,

Scott

[LZScout 5]

On 11/16/2017 at 11:14 AM, Bert Pieke said:

You can actually fine tune the AMP readouts to your liking!

In the GaugePC12 folder (in your panel.XX folder), open the Gauge_BATT1V4.xml file with Notepad.

You will find the following Update section:

             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_FUEL_PUMPS_RH,number) 5 *
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_FUEL_PUMPS_LH,number) 5 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_LANDING,number) 5 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_TAXI,number) 5 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_STROBE,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_BEACON,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_NAV,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_WING,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_PROBES,number) 3 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_LH_WSH,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_RH_WSH,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_COOLING_SYS,number) 5 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_HEATING_CABIN,number) 15 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_CABIN_FLOOD,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_COCKPIT_DOME,number) 2 * +
             (A:PROP DEICE SWITCH, BOOL) if{  10 +  }
             (A:AVIONICS MASTER SWITCH, bool) if{  20 +  }
             (A:AUTOPILOT MASTER,BOOL) if{  10 +  }
             (A:GENERAL ENG ANTI ICE POSITION:1, BOOL) if{  10 + }                         (>L:GENAMPS,number)    

 

This is where the AMPS readout is calculated.

You can reduce any of the individual AMP loads as you like..

For example, if you would like Avionics master to draw 5 amps, rather than 20.. change:

(A:AVIONICS MASTER SWITCH, bool) if{  5 +  }

etc

 

 

 

Thanks Bert, I will give it a try. I always appreciate how you go the extra mile to help us out. It helps me learn too!

[LZScout 5]

I've taken Bert's hint and modified the GAUGE_BATTV4.xml file using Notepad++. As stated by Bert, it is located in the GaugePC12 folder in the panel folder. In order to keep the Amp readout on the overhead panel to a maximum of 15 amps for takeoff, I took a few liberties in changing some of the values. Some might say they aren't realistic, I've no idea if they are or aren't. It's what I had to do to make it work the way Carenado designed it. You can see the values I changed in the list below when compared to Bert's list (above) of the original values. The last value (A:GENERAL ENG ANTI ICE POSITION:1, BOOL) if{  0 +  } is tied to the Interial Separator. This value was originally 10 amps in the "ON" position. I changed it to zero figuring if it took any current at all, it was only when it opened or closed, and would not be constant. The lines in BOLD type are the ones I selected as being appropriate before takeoff (except WING which I just changed since it was a light like the others).

             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_FUEL_PUMPS_RH,number) 5 *
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_FUEL_PUMPS_LH,number) 5 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_LANDING,number) 1 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_TAXI,number) 1 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_STROBE,number) 1 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_BEACON,number) 1 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_NAV,number) 1 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_WING,number) 1 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_PROBES,number) 1 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_LH_WSH,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_RH_WSH,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_COOLING_SYS,number) 5 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_HEATING_CABIN,number) 15 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_CABIN_FLOOD,number) 2 * +
             (L:ASD_BTN_PC12_COCKPIT_DOME,number) 2 * +
             (A:PROP DEICE SWITCH, BOOL) if{  10 +  }
             (A:AVIONICS MASTER SWITCH, bool) if{  3 +  }
             (A:AUTOPILOT MASTER,BOOL) if{  10 +  }
             (A:GENERAL ENG ANTI ICE POSITION:1, BOOL) if{  0 +  }                        (>L:GENAMPS,number)    

If the original numbers are real values, I've no idea how the requirement for 15 amp max is met, unless it has something to do with power settings. Again, we are quite likely limited by the Carenado design.

 

Lantz