Flying Trees at LOWS!

[Cruachan 705]

Hi,

So, any thoughts on what have I may have overlooked or done incorrectly?!

Thought everything was fine until I saw this!

Scenery: Digital Design's LOWS Salzburg W.A. Mozart P3D4

Scenery positioned at the top of the P3Dv4.1 Scenery Library.

I saw something similar at ORBX's Monument Valley. Corrected by running their FTX Global Vector AEC. Perhaps I should do the same here although this is not their scenery. Does it matter?

EDIT: Thought I would try a manual AEC correction but LOWS doesn't appear to be listed.

Mike

[Cruachan 705]

Hmm, This may not be quite as straightforward as I first thought:

Winter

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Conflict with another scenery, perhaps?

Mike

[spesimen 135]

one thing that can help when trying to track down a problem like this is simple airport scanner ..it's from the people who make ADE....it will show you all of the sceneries that are loading at that airport so you can hopefully find which one is conflicting..

 http://www.scruffyduck.org/simple-airport-scanner/

usually when i see something like this it is one of a few things

1. orbx freeware airport that i didn't know i had (there are packs for NA and Europe that cover quite a few airports nowadays)

2.mytraffic bgl for that airport ... may not apply for you..a lot of these have issues with add-on airports though, since they are designed to fix the parking at the default airports..

3. vector stuff in orbx...even if the AEC tool doesn't show the airport listed as having an official elevation correction, sometimes there are is another .bgl in there that conflicts..this is pretty rare case

good luck!

cheers,-andy crosby

[Cruachan 705]

Hi Andy,

Thanks. Plenty food for thought.

However, the Simple Airport Scanner doesn't seem to work with P3Dv4.1

All relevant areas are greyed out and it doesn't allow manual input description of the path to scenery.cfg

Regards,

Mike

[spesimen 135]

1 hour ago, Cruachan said:

Hi Andy,

Thanks. Plenty food for thought.

However, the Simple Airport Scanner doesn't seem to work with P3Dv4.1

 

ah, sorry i didn't notice the version. seems that they have a beta version on their support forum that looks to be meant for v4 .. don't know if that includes 4.1 it looks a little older.

check this link

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/simple-airport-scanner-1-70-beta.440300/

cheers,-andy crosby

[GSalden 4,657]

I had floating taxiway lights after installing Salzburg V4.

Un-reinstall fixed it...

[Cruachan 705]

3 hours ago, GSalden said:

I had floating taxiway lights after installing Salzburg V4.

Un-reinstall fixed it...

Hi Gerard,

I'll certainly give it a shot - you never know your luck. However, my gut feeling is that what I'm seeing seems more like a conflict with another Scenery. Not only are the trees floating but they are oversized suggesting a viewpoint much closer to the objects than should exist while flying at LOWS.

No one else seeing this?

Regards,

Mike

[Cruachan 705]

Hi Andy,

Problem resolved! No reinstallation necessary. The Simple Airport Scanner v.1.70 Beta proved to be very helpful in identifying the source of the conflict.

So, I set about disabling the following files by adding an 'OFF' extension to the filename:

ORBX

FTX_EU\FTX_EU_GES_05_scenery\ADE_FTX_GES_LOWS.bgl.OFF

My Traffic Professional

My Traffic Professional\My Traffic\scenery\BR2_LOWS.BGL.OFF

Not sure about this one. I am assuming Digital Design have provided their own traffic. Having said that things seem very quiet (apart from a few service vehicles) at LOWS whether My Traffic Pro is active or not.
 

AND, for good measure I have taken the opportunity to disable the Black Marble 3D Bridge coverage for this scenery area. Not too keen on the appearance of the BM Bridges in situations such as this and particularly when they conflict with any 3rd Party Bridge provision in custom scenery areas. I determined which files to disable by using the TmfViewer from the SDK to display the content of worldlc.bgl and by matching the top down view in the sim with the same view in Google Earth Pro. Quite straightforward when you know how .

Black Marble Bridges

Prepar3D v4\CDS\CDSBMV\Scenery

bdx5014.BGL.OFF
bdx5015.BGL.OFF
bdx5114.BGL.OFF
bdx5115.BGL.OFF
bdx5214.BGL.OFF
bdx5215.BGL.OFF

This, of course, does not affect Black Marble Vector nor Night Environment which is absolutely superb!

Many thanks, Andy, for steering me in the right direction. It proved to be an interesting and instructive exercise. ALL is good now!

Regards,

Mike

[spesimen 135]

1 hour ago, Cruachan said:

 

Many thanks, Andy, for steering me in the right direction. It proved to be an interesting and instructive exercise. ALL is good now!

cheers, glad you got it sorted out.

[GSalden 4,657]

6 hours ago, Cruachan said:

Hi Andy,

Problem resolved! No reinstallation necessary. The Simple Airport Scanner v.1.70 Beta proved to be very helpful in identifying the source of the conflict.

So, I set about disabling the following files by adding an 'OFF' extension to the filename:

ORBX

FTX_EU\FTX_EU_GES_05_scenery\ADE_FTX_GES_LOWS.bgl.OFF

My Traffic Professional

My Traffic Professional\My Traffic\scenery\BR2_LOWS.BGL.OFF

Not sure about this one. I am assuming Digital Design have provided their own traffic. Having said that things seem very quiet (apart from a few service vehicles) at LOWS whether My Traffic Pro is active or not.
 

AND, for good measure I have taken the opportunity to disable the Black Marble 3D Bridge coverage for this scenery area. Not too keen on the appearance of the BM Bridges in situations such as this and particularly when they conflict with any 3rd Party Bridge provision in custom scenery areas. I determined which files to disable by using the TmfViewer from the SDK to display the content of worldlc.bgl and by matching the top down view in the sim with the same view in Google Earth Pro. Quite straightforward when you know how .

Black Marble Bridges

Prepar3D v4\CDS\CDSBMV\Scenery

bdx5014.BGL.OFF
bdx5015.BGL.OFF
bdx5114.BGL.OFF
bdx5115.BGL.OFF
bdx5214.BGL.OFF
bdx5215.BGL.OFF

This, of course, does not affect Black Marble Vector nor Night Environment which is absolutely superb!

Many thanks, Andy, for steering me in the right direction. It proved to be an interesting and instructive exercise. ALL is good now!

Regards,

Mike

Hi Kime,

Indeed glad that you have sorted it out.

However, I do not have floating trees and I also have BM vector/bridges, FTX Golbal + OpenLC EU. I do have MT , but have only the aircraft installed as I deleted the airport scenery ( Noc's Live Traffic ). And I did not disable BM 3D bridges ( yet ) ..

So , why did you had this issue and I did not  ?

Regards, Gerard

 

[Cruachan 705]

Hi Gerard,

The culprit turned out to be the component Scenery file of ORBX FTX_EU, namely ADE_FTX_GES_LOWS.bgl. Do you have this file? If you do then I am unable to explain our different experiences at LOWS. Could it be that you haven't installed FTX EU Germany South? Saltzburg is quite near the border so there may be some scenery overlap.

As for the 3D Black Marble Bridges, disabling them for the Digital Design LOWS Scenery is merely a personal preference. In fact I disabled more files than I really needed to at LOWS as I noted serious conflicts at ORBX's FTX LOWI where, in some places, the BM bridges were stacked on top of the ORBX bridges - and I'm not referring to flyovers. I have Iain Gallagher's excellent 'Scotflight for ORBX' installed and saw similar problems there, so made the decision to disable the 3D Black Marble Bridge coverage for the whole of Scotland, just as I have done now for most of Austria.

Regards,

Mike

 

[swiesma 625]

I also have all ORBX stuff installed and LOWS - and have no issues. Simply installed and it works.

[fluffyflops 1,858]

once again all the developer had to do was add it in their release notes. anything in the documentation ?  I bet not.  

[swiesma 625]

Ranty McRantface back in business......

 

:-)

[Cruachan 705]

I've discovered something else at my end:

Not sure this finding is relevant as you can see the only Regions to have migrated correctly are in fact FTX Global and FTX Global openLC Europe.

Now this is a mystery because I had something similar, although not quite as extensive, a couple of weeks ago which forced a reinstall of 6 affected Regions to resolve this issue. As far as I am aware I have done nothing since then to cause a repeat. Such a pain as I'm having to reinstall 16 Regions this time!! A forced re-migration of my unified lclookup from within FTX Central 3 had no positive effect. Same story this time - hence the need to reinstall.

Regards,

Mike