J van E

Basic but smooth cockpit views: what are my options?

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I am flying the Q400 but I am often having problems with TrackIR not enabling me to see the top of the overhead or the com radio's. Probably has to do with the light and the distance to my tracker. But even if things would work, I often find it a bit problematic to keep my head up or down that much to actually do things in the cockpit. So I thought it might be time to get a camera addon. I do not like to switch between the views with A because you have to cycle through them all all the time and back again. Kills the immersion. Now in the past, a long time ago, I did own EZDOK and it allowed me to set up views to my own liking and the transition between them was smooth. EZDOK was a pain to use though. So my questions are:

1. Is Chaseplan the addon to get for this? I do think it is a bit (or highly) overpriced though for just the three views I want... (overhead, forward pedestal, aft pedestal)

2. I still must have an old license for EZDOK somewhere: does it work with P3D 4.1 and has it become easier to setup views?

3. Any other options that might be better for me because I only need three extra views with smooth transitions?

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Well, let me answer that myself. As happens more often I found the answer just after posting the question. :happy: I had a look at this video: seems that EZDOK is the (cheapest) way to go for me!

 

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When I went from EZDOC to chaseplane i found I did not need TrackIR anymore its that good.

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For me, the simplest was to just map the F9/F12 keys to a rocker switch. If I need to look up HIGH on an upper panel, I look down, hit F12 rocker to center that and look up - get a full view of the overhead instantly. When done, hit f12 rocker for straight ahead.

 Fast, simple and free.

Vic

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Hi Folks,

I am a TrackIR and ChasePlane user - and ChasePlane is simply amazing... I don't think I've ever seen a program that was easier to use with a more intuitive and polished interface... I won't give up my TrackIR though... Primary flying view utilizes it - all the rest do not... You'll quickly find you'll probably want more than three views... Its so nice to having commonly used instruments just a click away... Transitions can be tailored as if each view was a turn if your head... I structure all my aircraft with three main flows - based on lateral position - PIC - CTR - PNF and these are tied to a hat switch... I use an UPPER CTR and LOWER CTR to accommodate overhead panels... You can have multiple views assigned to the same button and they cycle through on each subsequent button press... Click on the UP HAT - brings up the upper panel... Click on the DOWN HAT - brings up the Autopilot... Click on the DOWN HAT again - brings up the GPS - etc etc etc... I have my "fire" trigger to always bring up the primary flying view with TrackIR so it's extremely quick to get back to the most important view for flying the plane... TrackIR and ChasePlane have completely changed the way I fly - for the better... I've only scratched the surface of its features and in my humble opinion ChasePlane is a must have...

Regards,
Scott

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Not familiar with Chaseplane but with EZdok you can assign views to a joystick button if you wish which eliminates the scrolling.

Also you can adjust the speed of the smooth zoom between views.

Another nifty feature recently added allows you to click the mouse wheel & roll to zoom. Mouse wheel & right button click returns you to original position. Handy for looking at thos far awat difficult spots like the pressurization panel in the Xtreme Labs Lear25D.

Works fine with P3Dv4.1,

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25 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

For me, the simplest was to just map the F9/F12 keys to a rocker switch. If I need to look up HIGH on an upper panel, I look down, hit F12 rocker to center that and look up - get a full view of the overhead instantly. When done, hit f12 rocker for straight ahead.

 Fast, simple and free.

Vic

Yep, rocker switch on my Thrustmaster MFDs for the win.

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ChasePlane looks very nice indeed but I am not interested AT ALL in fancy camera movements and outside views. I never ever leave the VC while flying so those splash effects are wasted on me. I don't make movies either. I simply want to setup a few views for the Q400 to which I can switch smoothly and with a single key/button press. And 40 bucks is way over the top for that imho... Even the 12 bucks for the EZDOK upgrade is almost too much LOL So thanks for all the advice and tips but if I decide to buy something for this it will be the EZDOK upgrade. I rather spend that other money on something I might actually use. :happy:

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I investigated this a few weeks ago and like you had the original EZDOK. I thought the upgrade to P3Dv4 was very fair and it's easier to use than the FSX versions. Quite happy to avoid paying for Chaseplane.

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42 minutes ago, J van E said:

ChasePlane looks very nice indeed but I am not interested AT ALL in fancy camera movements and outside views. I never ever leave the VC while flying so those splash effects are wasted on me. I don't make movies either. I simply want to setup a few views for the Q400 to which I can switch smoothly and with a single key/button press. And 40 bucks is way over the top for that imho... Even the 12 bucks for the EZDOK upgrade is almost too much LOL So thanks for all the advice and tips but if I decide to buy something for this it will be the EZDOK upgrade. I rather spend that other money on something I might actually use. :happy:

Hi,

If you use Ezdok 2 be sure to update to the latest version 2.6.0.27. A lot of new features and bug fixes.

http://www.simforums.com/forums/ezca-2-6-for-p3d-v4-1-p3d-4-0-p3d-v3-xx-fsx_topic59058.html

I fly on the Q400, and with Ezdok creates a strong immersion of flight. Can offer you my camera set with the configured effects. You can get it in the cloud:

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/Jkrw/W9trazJpN

 

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There's also SimpleCam that may be more suited. 

http://www.aivlasoft.com/74.html

I moved on from EZDOK to Chaseplane as EZDOK was affecting aircraft flight models and ground handling and I wasn't happy with that. Best of luck! 

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15 hours ago, J van E said:

I am flying the Q400 but I am often having problems with TrackIR not enabling me to see the top of the overhead or the com radio's. Probably has to do with the light and the distance to my tracker. But even if things would work, I often find it a bit problematic to keep my head up or down that much to actually do things in the cockpit. So I thought it might be time to get a camera addon. I do not like to switch between the views with A because you have to cycle through them all all the time and back again. Kills the immersion. Now in the past, a long time ago, I did own EZDOK and it allowed me to set up views to my own liking and the transition between them was smooth. EZDOK was a pain to use though. So my questions are:

1. Is Chaseplan the addon to get for this? I do think it is a bit (or highly) overpriced though for just the three views I want... (overhead, forward pedestal, aft pedestal)

2. I still must have an old license for EZDOK somewhere: does it work with P3D 4.1 and has it become easier to setup views?

3. Any other options that might be better for me because I only need three extra views with smooth transitions?

I use Chase Plane with TIR.

Even if you don't go for all the Chase Plane features, I would recommend it for one main reason. It's updated on a daily basis. The developers are the fastest I know for being "on the case". If something goes wrong or needs improving they fix it.  Updates are downloaded and installed automatically at each sim boot.

I used Ezdock in my FSX days. The program had no support for years. I don't know if it's still the case, however my vote goes to Chase Plane.:cool:

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5 minutes ago, Ebs said:

I moved on from EZDOK to Chaseplane as EZDOK was affecting aircraft flight models and ground handling and I wasn't happy with that. Best of luck! 

Ezdok 2 since version 2.1 does not have any influence on the physics of flight and the motion on the ground. With the release of Prepar3d v4.1 had problems with taxiing aircrafts from A2A and PMDG but it was quickly corrected. In any case, any of the channels of effects can be turned off at any time, and leave only the types of cameras.

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15 minutes ago, Nickbe said:

With the release of Prepar3d v4.1 had problems with taxiing aircrafts from A2A and PMDG but it was quickly corrected

That was the turning point for me (no pun intended!) I appreciate the fact that it was quickly corrected, but why is a camera addon even involved with that? 

Still, I realise both addons have their followers and EZDOK v2 is definitely better compared to v1. If you have the possibility to upgrade from v1 then go for it. But if you have no camera addon, I'd personally recommend Chaseplane. 

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Well Neil above did a vid on chaseplane probably a totally waste of time showing it though given your damming comments.

Handy if you want to do a walkaround prefight also.

 

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Hi Folks,

A picture is worth a thousand words - very nicely done video...

Regards,

Scott

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I use AivlaSoft SimpleCam, extremely easy tool and a wonderful addition to TrackIR. Views configured in seconds, more I do not need. Chaseplane looks great, but for me its an overkill.

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2 hours ago, Nickbe said:

Hi,

If you use Ezdok 2 be sure to update to the latest version 2.6.0.27. A lot of new features and bug fixes.

http://www.simforums.com/forums/ezca-2-6-for-p3d-v4-1-p3d-4-0-p3d-v3-xx-fsx_topic59058.html

I fly on the Q400, and with Ezdok creates a strong immersion of flight. Can offer you my camera set with the configured effects. You can get it in the cloud:

https://cloud.mail.ru/public/Jkrw/W9trazJpN

 

Thanks, I will have a look at it if I get EZDOK!

2 hours ago, Ebs said:

There's also SimpleCam that may be more suited. 

http://www.aivlasoft.com/74.html

I moved on from EZDOK to Chaseplane as EZDOK was affecting aircraft flight models and ground handling and I wasn't happy with that. Best of luck! 

I'll check that out too. And btw I am not planning on using any of the shaing effects etc. so I doubt if it will affect the flight model and ground handling...? EDIT Ah, Nickbe answered that already. EDIT 2 SimpleCam is VERY simple and even costs CHF 9.90... You can do that with default P3D settings already afaik (see Nemo's post and my reply below).

2 hours ago, charlie130 said:

I would recommend it for one main reason. It's updated on a daily basis.

I can understand you see this as positive but I am inclined to see it as negative. I want something that simply works. :happy: If it is being updated on a daily basis I get the feeling something is wrong LOL

2 hours ago, Nemo said:

Maybe this helps  http://forum.simflight.com/topic/80948-go-to-specific-vc-view-on-button-press/

it describes how to quick access different VC views using FSUIPC.

Will look at that too but I do suppose transitions won't be smooth...? What's more interesting is that it describes how to use default P3D settings to switch between views. No smooth transitions though. 

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48 minutes ago, J van E said:

I can understand you see this as positive but I am inclined to see it as negative. I want something that simply works. :happy: If it is being updated on a daily basis I get the feeling something is wrong LOL

Not that it's improved all the time, being worked on all the time with an active developer that want's it to be leagues ahead of anything else. Also has an english support forum right here.

 

It's because something is wrong!!!!!.....wow!

 

Yer chaseplane never works, crashers all the time and it's pants! UI is terrible and costs way too much.:blink: Don't buy it. :dry: One minute you say you want the very best then the next you don't want to pay for something that's "expensive". The very best is not normally the cheap option in the world I live in sadly.

I've use chaseplane for 10 months now the only time it's not worked in all that time was when the servers went down because until now you have to be connect to the internet. Crashers = 0. something must be wrong!:huh:

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1 hour ago, Nyxx said:

One minute you say you want the very best then the next you don't want to pay for something that's "expensive".

I can't remember having said that I want the very best... :happy: 

1 hour ago, Nyxx said:

I've use chaseplane for 10 months now the only time it's not worked in all that time was when the servers went down because until now you have to be connect to the internet.

Ah, yes, that's true too. I own PrecipitFX but I am not a fan of the way they let you install their software. One more reason to not get it then. :happy:

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37 minutes ago, J van E said:

I can't remember having said that I want the very best... :happy: 

It was when you was talking about the Q400.

Anyway don't buy it it's rubbish just like PTA is:biggrin: 

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1 hour ago, Nyxx said:

It was when you was talking about the Q400.

Anyway don't buy it it's rubbish just like PTA is:biggrin: 

Ah, ok, yes, the Q400.

Hahaha, don't be surprised if I buy ChasePlane one of these day! :laugh:

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Ok, as you all may know I am very fickle. To prove this to you all I can tell you I just bought ChasePlane. :cool: The various video’s I watched convinced me of its ease of use. Besides, the price wasn’t too bad in euro’s and I got a discount because I own PrecipitFX. Another thing I thought of was that whenever LM releases an update the devs of ChasePlane may react quicker to any changes. 

Bit of a letdown then that I can’t look around with the mouse of change the view with the control, hahaha! Fooled around with it for 10 minutes but I got nowhere. But well, am sure I am doing something stupid and that I will be able to enjoy my purchase for years to come. 

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