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RELEASED: HD Mesh Scenery v4 for X-Plane 11

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The wait is over, and HD Mesh Scenery v4 for X-Plane 11 is now officially released!

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HD Mesh Scenery v4 can be seen as a vastly improved version of the default scenery shipping with XP11. It is using/referencing the exact same set of artwork files (textures, object, autogens, forests) which ship with XP11, so you do not need other art assets to be installed while HD Mesh Scenery v4 will also benefit from any artwork improvements (autogen, texture) coming with future XP11 versions.

The most important advantages of HD Mesh Scenery v4 are

  • The triangle mesh resolution is far higher than in the default mesh and even a bit above the level of the previous HD Mesh Scenery v3::
    • this give – obviously – better DEM (elevation data) representation (slopes, mountains etc.)
    • BUT this also vastly(!) improves the landclass data representation (which in X-Plane is very closely coupled with the triangle size in the mesh). This is most obvious with forest detail.
  • The vector data simplification is less aggressive than in the default mesh (where Laminar needed to do that to limit the overall size of the global scenery). Thus road / railroad bendings are more accurate and the same is true for rivers, shorelines (but where the OSM raw data is bad, this can’t help much either)
  • HD Mesh Scenery v4 also has the new “high buildings” feature included, which I introduced with Laminar in XP11. This puts all (well, with some filtering of not reasonable stuff from OSM)  buildings > 20m “height” or > 5 “building:levels” as some “high building” object (with a more or less correct height – as defined in OSM) in the scenery (“building:levels” are simply multiplied by 4m to get an approximate height). This usually gives most cities a much better look  (New York is a great example, where in OSM almost all buildings already have a height defined). This same approach also “imports” antennas / masts from OSM (as antenna obstacles)
  • OSM data is updated (its “date stamp” is 1st October 2017) . Which makes it newer than current XP11 default mesh data and of course much, much newer than the data in HD Mesh Scenery v3.
  • Most of the Landclass data has seen an update (which already happened with my work for the XP11 default scenery … but HD Mesh Scenery v4 can represent the high res landclass data much better)

Coverage

  • Europe (from the Canaries and Iceland in the west up to Moscow an and most parts of Israel in the East)
  • North America (USA, Alaska, Canada)
  • South / Central America
  • Australia
  • Japan
  • Hawaii and most of the tiny Pacific Islands
  • Australia
  • Himalaya

(Coverage to the north ends at 73 N !)

And a Warning!

  • The scenery requires at least X-Plane 11.00 !!! IT WILL NOT WORK WITH X-Plane 10.xx!

Screenshots

Here are the official screenshots accompanying the release of HD Mesh Scenery v4. Just follow the links to my Google Photos albums:

Official Site

All other (continuously updated) information, download links and important instructions can be found on the official HD Mesh Scenery v4 Site:

http://www.alpilotx.net/downloads/x-plane-11-hd-mesh-scenery-v4/

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Enjoy!

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Great news ! Download of Europe started over the flightsim.com torrents, I expect to start seeding in one hour.

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THX Andras!

Unfortunately my XP11.10RC3 crashes during loading with the new mesh, I think I've to roll back to the latest official build

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18 minutes ago, Wickerman88 said:

THX Andras!

Unfortunately my XP11.10RC3 crashes during loading with the new mesh, I think I've to roll back to the latest official build

It works fine for me with the latest Release Candidate.

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59 minutes ago, Wickerman88 said:

I've not enough RAM, 16GB seems not to be enough with MAX Settings in Autogen :)

Well, I think most regions should work with 16 GB RAM ... but of course, if you want to go in the most sprawling areas (big cities, or mountains with lots of complex forest patterns), then indeed you might find spots where 16 GB might become a tight fit (it might also depend on what else you are running on your machine and which OS you are on).

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Thank you so much Andras for your continued amazing contribution to X Plane. Donation on its way!

cheers

Peter

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is there a single torrent available ? i might put it a few month on my NAS and let it seed with 5-10 mbit. 

Otherwise i´ll try to keep the single ones open

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53 minutes ago, alpha12125 said:

is there a single torrent available ? i might put it a few month on my NAS and let it seed with 5-10 mbit. 

Otherwise i´ll try to keep the single ones open

No, there isn't ... neither planned for the moment.

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1 hour ago, alpilotx said:

No, there isn't ... neither planned for the moment.

What a shame. At least region files which have all the tiles for one region as torrents would be great. Having to download everything tile by tile is a pain. 

But anyways thanks a lot for the great work!

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Also people don´t forget this is donationware ;) 

If you are able to spend 50+ dollars on planes of questionable quality, giving andras some money should be a nobrainer :)

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Thanks Andras.

Can I replace the default X-Plane 11 Global Scenery/Earth nav data with HD mesh v4 to save space or do I need to keep the default xp 11 nav data?

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5 minutes ago, DJJose said:

Thanks Andras.

Can I replace the default X-Plane 11 Global Scenery/Earth nav data with HD mesh v4 to save space or do I need to keep the default xp 11 nav data?

Yes, you can ... BUT that is not recommended (nor really supported) as any scenery update (you can trigger via the updater) would overwrite. And also, this way would make it much harder to roll-back (you would need to re-install scenery via the X-Plane installer).

 

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32 minutes ago, alpilotx said:

Yes, you can ... BUT that is not recommended (nor really supported) as any scenery update (you can trigger via the updater) would overwrite. And also, this way would make it much harder to roll-back (you would need to re-install scenery via the X-Plane installer).

 

Thanks.

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38 minutes ago, DJJose said:

Thanks Andras.

Can I replace the default X-Plane 11 Global Scenery/Earth nav data with HD mesh v4 to save space or do I need to keep the default xp 11 nav data?

Couldn't you just uninstall the default scenery tiles that are covered by the hd mesh via the installer to save space? My guess is that it should be enough, if the hd scenery is in the custom scenery folder for those tiles. That way you would avoid the update mess that comes with replacing lots of original X-Plane files.

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The downside of expecting people to seed a release like this, when it's in 50+ pieces is, you'll end up choking a connection if there's too many clients connected, especially on lower-end ISP assigned gear it can be a nightmare. So I really urge you to release in larger, regional torrents that are easier to seed and easier to download.

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40 minutes ago, Sethos1988 said:

The downside of expecting people to seed a release like this, when it's in 50+ pieces is, you'll end up choking a connection if there's too many clients connected, especially on lower-end ISP assigned gear it can be a nightmare. So I really urge you to release in larger, regional torrents that are easier to seed and easier to download.

As you still always have the direct download option too (from 4 mirrors!) the problem shouldn't be that big (you always can fall back to the direct download if the torrent doesn't work for some time).

Additionally it is a support nightmare, if there are more, different file packages floating around the net because that makes it even harder to spread a fixed, new version should that become necessary (because the more different packages there are, the harder it becomes to know which of them might need an update). People tend to forget that ...

And if I managed to work on this for months and take care of the distribution then maybe its not much asked that users invest a little time for downloading (and finally, its still all free. isn't it :cool:). So I urge you to not urge me ...

(and if everybody fails, you even get the whole stuff on USB media from FSPilotshop ... which just became available ... link is on the HD Mesh Scenery v4 page)

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50 minutes ago, alpilotx said:

Additionally it is a support nightmare, if there are more, different file packages floating around the net because that makes it even harder to spread a fixed, new version should that become necessary (because the more different packages there are, the harder it becomes to know which of them might need an update). People tend to forget that ...

 

I don't get that. First off, how is this scenario any different from your current method? Right now, it's even more cumbersome to download, making people MORE likely to upload the files to a third party site where they won't get updated. Making it MORE difficult to get files doesn't DECREASE the risk of unauthorized uploads. Making them smaller and more accessible increases that risk even further. Making larger but fewer packages, means people are more likely to get it from the official source with most seeders / leechers, plus getting the latest files in the first get-go.

Secondly, if you decided to add more tiles to a region, you'd simply just update the primary torrent mirror with a new torrent. You or anybody else would still use the older files to seed, but also download and seed the new files. If you patch a file, they would just re-download said file, even if they had a copy of the old, as it would fail consistency check.

It seems like minimal extra work and support with a HUGE accessibility bonus for the people who want to save a lot of time clicking 40+ individual files and links, waiting for them to load, queue up the torrents etc. Might even be more inclined to donate and support your work -- I would.

Also, this isn't about not being able to seed full stop. I could just be selfish and leech what I needed then stop the torrent, against the idea of torrents. This is about making it viable, which it won't be to seed 20-30-40 files as the amount of incoming connections could easily choke most low-end network gear. And your direct mirrors aren't an answer when they are ungodly slow, have "package" schemes with capped download rates and are STILL in individual packages.

But if the official stance is what you said, I'll just leech and stop the torrents when I'm done, regardless of seed ratio.

EDIT: Also, tell me, how does ordering a USB make it LESS of a support nightmare to have people's files update? Sounds like the absolute worst-case scenario for outdated files, where people most likely won't be updating them.

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I'll  not go into technical detail. However, Andras provides an outstanding contribution to the community - for free. I think it's his and only his decision how to distribute the files. I may or may not find it great to click the numerous files, but considering the time I take for clicking in relation to his time for making the files, I feel I should only be thankful to him. 

Kind regards, Michael

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9 minutes ago, pmb said:

I'll  not go into technical detail. However, Andras provides an outstanding contribution to the community - for free. I think it's his and only his decision how to distribute the files. I may or may not find it great to click the numerous files, but considering the time I take for clicking in relation to his time for making the files, I feel I should only be thankful to him. 

Kind regards, Michael

I agree with this. Andras must have done with enormous efforts to put out his product. If he makes it easier to download, that's great. If this is the way the downlaod is, it's up to us to figure out how to make the best of situation. 

I may just buy the USB stick version. For the price it's very reasonable. Of course, if someone puts the whole package to torrent that'll be great. 120GB for torrent is not that big at all. 

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