FSX-MS Goodbye FSX - thank you Windows 10 !

[Skywolf 992]

guys and gals - please wait for the fix on Dec 12.  Lets hope Microsoft releases the patch

[fppilot 4,336]

12 hours ago, charliewards said:

It’s Windows 10, not hardware. And FYI my P3D v4 is working fine... probably because it’s 64 bit.

I am on Windows 10 Home Premium and my FSX is running flawlessly. Saddened to hear of your frustration. Hope you find a solution. This is too great an activity to give up on!

[theohall65 64]

1709 screwed up FSW for me.  Had to re-install FSW to get it working, so I feel your pain molleh.

What is the point of an OS "service" if the updates to the "service" break things which work.

Prior to doing a re-install, I even tried the recommended System Restore option to revert the "service" prior to the update.  Guess what happened? FSW still didn't work.  And as soon as it went to shut down - re-updated to 1709 which broke things.

I was fortunate enough that re-installing the program afterwards fixed it, but lost my profile info, because I forgot to backup the 2 .bin files which aren't stored on the Steam cloud.

Every time I see the Update thing pending, I'm terrified something else won't work.  Really close to reverting back to Windows 8.1 (only $11 US) which doesn't have forced updates.

[bobbyjack 61]

I find it interesting that in the case of FSX, we have a program that we all complain about. It's poorly coded, unfinished, a resource hog, and wouldn't run on most computers when it first came out. Yet most people have run it on every OS between then and now. I have. Compared to all the add ons that people buy, FSX costs next to nothing. Yet some add ons keep not working when the OS changes or updates. We all know this. I have plenty of software that was written well before W 10, but works anyway.No matter the OS or hardware. 

Most updates are security updates, of which I am glad. Microsoft had issued a patch that guarded against the last big hack, months before it happened. Lots of business and individuals were hurt because they did not update.

[jetsmell 45]

I was having problems too but got a Windows update about four days ago and it look's like everything is fixed.

[n4gix 4,947]

Not to throw a spanner into the works, but I have a new Win10 sim computer and even P3Dv4 has issues with the 1709 update...

Here's hoping the Dec 12 update will restore things to normal again.

[Hansaspeed 18]

Every update season I regret using Windows 10. It is a beautiful OS but Microsoft cannot go one major update without breaking something. Microsoft needs to stop trying to be like Apple, it will never happen. Is there any way to disable content updates?

[theohall65 64]

2 hours ago, Hansaspeed said:

Is there any way to disable content updates?

Nope.  You can limit them, but never turn them completely off.

[Orlaam 306]

MS lost my business with Windows 10.  I don't think I'll ever go back.  Windows 10 is like ME and Vista all in one.  My last laptop purchase was a MacBook Pro.  I don't understand what MS are doing.  Windows 7 was great, and so was XP.  Now they're making garbage.  Windows 10 is so slow at my work and I've yet to see a Windows 10 perform fast.

[Hansaspeed 18]

1 hour ago, Orlaam said:

MS lost my business with Windows 10.  I don't think I'll ever go back.  Windows 10 is like ME and Vista all in one.  My last laptop purchase was a MacBook Pro.  I don't understand what MS are doing.  Windows 7 was great, and so was XP.  Now they're making garbage.  Windows 10 is so slow at my work and I've yet to see a Windows 10 perform fast.

The thing is I find Windows 10 to be a great operating system but Microsoft keep ruining it. The UI is amazing, I find it marginally faster then 7, and I feel it has more useful features. Yet Microsoft keep finding ways to bloat it into being useless. They bloat it with extra apps no one needs or wants, they bloat it with updates that break the software we really want to use, and they bloat it with services that do nothing but slow it down. I for one will never by a Windows product for anything other then gaming.

[Orlaam 306]

38 minutes ago, Hansaspeed said:

The thing is I find Windows 10 to be a great operating system but Microsoft keep ruining it. The UI is amazing, I find it marginally faster then 7, and I feel it has more useful features. Yet Microsoft keep finding ways to bloat it into being useless. They bloat it with extra apps no one needs or wants, they bloat it with updates that break the software we really want to use, and they bloat it with services that do nothing but slow it down. I for one will never by a Windows product for anything other then gaming.

Same.  We have it at work.  I'm a nurse and every time I want to go look at someone's MAR to scan a medication I have to logon to Windows and then the program we use to administer the meds.  It's so much slower than my Windows 7 machine here are home.  Just logging on takes way too long.  And yes, it's so bloated.  Netflix, Facebook, and a myriad of apps and junk most people don't want.  I think the UI is childish to be honest.  It just has a lot of problems and they aren't making it any better.

[vortex681 806]

12 hours ago, Orlaam said:

It's so much slower than my Windows 7 machine here are home.

Unless you're comparing OSs on exactly the same machine, any assessment of speed is meaningless. At work, your computer is probably tied into a network being shared by many other machines, is likely to be a slower CPU,  probably has a lot less ram and is almost certainly using integrated graphics. No organisation buys gaming computers to use exclusively in an office environment.

People who think Windows 7 is so wonderful have probably forgotten that it also had its fair share of problems associated with updates. The difference is that it's now been around long enough for them to have been resolved.

[webranger 186]

Has anyone done a reinstall of FSX-SE with any luck?

[charliewards 11]

I don’t understand why Microsoft can’t release a patch sooner than Tuesday (assuming they’ve fixed the problem). Must the company stick to its scheduled patch/update routine? 

[hawkeye71 5]

On 12/9/2017 at 11:40 AM, jetsmell said:

I was having problems too but got a Windows update about four days ago and it look's like everything is fixed.

Which update did you get?