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12 Dec 2017 Win 10 Update experiences?

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Rob McCarthy at Lockheed Martin is reporting that the 12 Dec 17 update (KB4054517) to Win 10 version 1709 (Fall Creator's Edition) has finally solved the "Error creating child window" problem on 32-bit versions of P3D running under Win 10 64.

Any other experiences (good or bad) after installing this update?  Are FSX, FSX-SE, and/or P3Dv3 working again after several months of butt pain surrounding these errant Win 10 updates?

Inquiring minds want to know...

Regards


Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
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I downloaded and installed this afternoon and immediately ran a flight in the PMDG737 from FSDT KLAX to FB KSFO.  Previously, I got an almost immediate creating child window crash while the 737 was loading.  If not, I clicked on the FMC and it was an immediate crash.  I had also a message in the 737 FMC that the Nav data was out of date.  Well, today, all of these issues went away with the update. I tried my hardest to create a crash by clicking on the menu items and the 737 FMC and other things that caused the crash 100 % of the time but could not get it to crash.  I did note a couple of anomalies during the flight in that a couple of times the sim appeared to be crashing, went white, and froze with the rotating icon and then suddenly, in seconds, continued with the flight.  It was like Windows 10 was accessing the freeze, found a solution, and fixed it so the sim could still continue on its flight.  I do not recall ever seeing this before.  I always got the rotating icon, the screen went white, and then crashed with the ntdll.dll as the faulting module.  So happy to see this update.  Hopefully they will not break it again.

Best regards,

Jim


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1 hour ago, Jim Young said:

I downloaded and installed this afternoon and immediately ran a flight in the PMDG737 from FSDT KLAX to FB KSFO.  Previously, I got an almost immediate creating child window crash while the 737 was loading.  If not, I clicked on the FMC and it was an immediate crash.  I had also a message in the 737 FMC that the Nav data was out of date.  Well, today, all of these issues went away with the update. I tried my hardest to create a crash by clicking on the menu items and the 737 FMC and other things that caused the crash 100 % of the time but could not get it to crash.  I did note a couple of anomalies during the flight in that a couple of times the sim appeared to be crashing, went white, and froze with the rotating icon and then suddenly, in seconds, continued with the flight.  It was like Windows 10 was accessing the freeze, found a solution, and fixed it so the sim could still continue on its flight.  I do not recall ever seeing this before.  I always got the rotating icon, the screen went white, and then crashed with the ntdll.dll as the faulting module.  So happy to see this update.  Hopefully they will not break it again.

Best regards,

Jim

Was this using P3Dv3, FSX, or FSX-SE?

 


Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

System1 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS @ 6.0GHz, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@30Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU, 1.2Gbps internet
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys2 (MSFS/XPlane): i9-10900K @ 5.1GHz, 32GB 3600/15, nVidia RTX4090FE, Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, EVGA 1000P2
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, 2x TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Portable Sys3 (P3Dv4/FSX/DCS): i9-9900K @ 5.0 Ghz, Noctua NH-D15, 32GB 3200/16, EVGA RTX3090, Dell S2417DG 24" GSync
Corsair RM850x PSU, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog HOTAS, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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9 hours ago, w6kd said:

Was this using P3Dv3, FSX, or FSX-SE?

 

FSX (boxed). 

 


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Working fine for me. FSX-SE


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The comments posted here seem to be very positive so far regarding the latest MS OS update. I too experienced the "Child Window" error via version 1709 update. For that reason, I rolled back to Win 10 version 1703 and disabled the update function. Because of that, I was able to enjoy a stable P3D version 3.xx sim experience.

I am still somewhat "Gun shy" to enable the update function and let this latest MS update install. I may wait for a while and monitor this topic for further "reassuring" comments noting this latest MS update is user friendly for us who still sim in the 32 bit environment. 

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I'm running FSX boxed with 1709 update and all seems well with one exception - feel there/wilco ERJ145.  FPS around 5 to 10 while PMDG/A2A planes run no problem 20 plus.  I recognize the 145 is old and support is long gone but just thought I'd throw this issue out to masses in case anyone has any thoughts/experience.

thanks

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