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Caution from LM re Texture_Size_Exp

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Relating to the discussion about Texture_Size_Exp and High Resolution textures here:

LM has discovered a potential bug which could cause issues per this:

Re: Confusion about High Resolution Terrain textures setting

post by Beau Hollis » 

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. There are actually two places, and one of them does not override the TSE value based on the HRTT setting. As a result, mismatched settings may have some negative side effects. Until we can fix this, please limit your combination of these options to these three combinations:

For default 256:
HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=0
TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=8 (or not set)

For 512:
HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=1
TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=9 (or not set)

For 1024:
HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=1
TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=10

Please do not use these setting combinations as they may cause problems:

HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=0
TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=9

HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=0
TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=10

HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=1
TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=8

Thanks

Beau Hollis
Prepar3D Rendering System Lead

  

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I've been using this one:


HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=0
TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=9

Guess I need to click on HHTT. Doesn't HHTT on and TSE=9 the same thing?


Eric 

 

 

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Yes - but as LM said... try to use the documented settings (only)..

I was using the same settings as you, but have now switched to

HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=1   only.

I see no difference..


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I do not tweak anything in P3D4.  I don't see the point.  A lot of pain for little gain?

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5 hours ago, Greggy_D said:

I do not tweak anything in P3D4.  I don't see the point.  A lot of pain for little gain?

HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=1  or better put HIGH RESOLUTION TERRAIN TEXTURES is a tick box in the setting not a tweak. 

The only real "tweak" there is a manual entry for people with 12GB gtx TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=10

It just pointing out that people should not mix/add both.

These do the same thing.

HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=0 <<< A tick box
TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=9

 


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Interesting, is this related to the blurries some (including me) have been experiencing with v4.1?  I’ll have to check my settings when I get home.


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i don't get it, so using 

HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=1

TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=9 or 10 is wrong? i use 4096 texture resolution

 

 

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1 hour ago, Lbt564 said:

i don't get it, so using 

HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=1

TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=9 or 10 is wrong? i use 4096 texture resolution

 

 

HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=1

is the same as

TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=9

I would suggest not using the TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP line at all, just set HIGH RESOLUTION TERRAIN TEXTURES in the UI.

4096 texture resolution is separate and has nothing to do with this.

 

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1 hour ago, Lbt564 said:

i don't get it, so using 

HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=1

TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=9 or 10 is wrong? i use 4096 texture resolution

 

 

Not wrong but exactly the LM recommendation as stated above.  They said HRT=0 and TSE=9 may cause issues.

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What Beau basically said is that there are specific designed settings. Setting HRTT=0 and TSE=9 is NOT a designed setting. Normally the HRTT=0 would be ignored as the TSE=9 would take precedence - the problem is that the "wrong" settings are NOT being ignored and may cause issues because P3D is trying to set TSE=9 with HRTT=0.

They are working to correct this - so just stick to the designed settings.

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Hey guys 

sorry to bring this topic up again.

I am a little confused

Thou I am wanting to try texture_size_exp=9

i currently have HRT ticked.

now is that the same?

or shall I untick HRT and insert 

TSP =9 only in cfg?

at the moment I am running 2 titans sc 6gb.

cheers

mike

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HRT set = TSP 9 so you are already using it. You could try 10 with hrt set though.

 

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On 12/20/2017 at 7:23 AM, Lbt564 said:

i don't get it, so using 

HIGH_RESOLUTION_TERRAIN_TEXTURES=1

TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=9 or 10 is wrong? i use 4096 texture resolution

 

 

No...that's the right way to do things....


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7 hours ago, vgbaron said:

HRT set = TSP 9 so you are already using it. You could try 10 with hrt set though.

 

Vic

Ok,

thanks mate.

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