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Hello,

I am planning to order another CyperpowerPC computer build (I did one about 6 years ago) for use for P3DV4.  Here are the specs without any upgrades:

Windows 10 Home

Intel® Core™ Processor i7-8700K

GeForce® GTX 1080 Ti 11GB GDDR5X

16GB ADATA XPG Z1 3000MHz RAM

CyberpowerPC Z370 SLI Xtreme ATX RGB Motherboard

250GB WD Blue M.2 SATA SSD

2TB SATA3 7200 RPM HD

Cooler Master MasterBox 5t Gaming Case

I was going to add the overclocking they provide (30%) and looking at a 500GB SSD instead of the 250GB.  I think it comes with a 800 watt PSU.  So my question is, are there any upgrades that I should do now so that I do not have regrets in the near future?

Appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

Ken

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Looks pretty solid.  Would be tempted to change the SSD for a 500gb model tho

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Looks good.

I second the suggestion that a 500GB SSD would be worthwhile. I read the Samsung 960 and Crucial Mx500 are going to be good performers.

What cooling solution are you opting for?

 

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I agree with the others, if you plan on putting your sim(s) and addons on the 250 gig, it may get a little tight down the line.  

Do you know whose Z370 motherboard that is?  Asus?  ASRock?  Gigabyte?  Intel reference?  Etc.?
I'm also not sure I'd pay for a SLI board, if I were not planning on running SLI, unless the cost was the same.  It may well be the same though, I don't know.  I've always avoided SLI and FS


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14 hours ago, Mace said:

I agree with the others, if you plan on putting your sim(s) and addons on the 250 gig, it may get a little tight down the line.  

Do you know whose Z370 motherboard that is?  Asus?  ASRock?  Gigabyte?  Intel reference?  Etc.?
I'm also not sure I'd pay for a SLI board, if I were not planning on running SLI, unless the cost was the same.  It may well be the same though, I don't know.  I've always avoided SLI and FS

The web site says MSI Z370


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Right now the build includes this motherboard: MSI Z370 - A PRO ATX RGB Motherboard, but there are other ones to choose from.

My dilemma now what kind of SSD/HDD combination I need.  I'm thinking about a 500gb SSD for Windows 10, then a 1TB SSD for P3Dv4 and a mechanical HDD for storage.  I am confused on the whole M.2 SATA/PCIe setup and the order page doesn't really help me at all.

I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

Ken

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You might consider a slightly larger PSU to give you a bit of headroom in the event you add another 1080TI in SLI later on.  Not sure it's critical at this stage, but maybe something to consider.



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15 hours ago, supernova48 said:

Right now the build includes this motherboard: MSI Z370 - A PRO ATX RGB Motherboard, but there are other ones to choose from.

My dilemma now what kind of SSD/HDD combination I need.  I'm thinking about a 500gb SSD for Windows 10, then a 1TB SSD for P3Dv4 and a mechanical HDD for storage.  I am confused on the whole M.2 SATA/PCIe setup and the order page doesn't really help me at all.

I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

Ken

 

 

It's not too confusing to be honest. I have a Samsung 960 Evo. 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-MZ-V6E500BW-500GB-Express-Solid/dp/B01M20VBU7/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1518014813&sr=8-2&keywords=960+evo

What are you confused about. They simply attach directly to a slot on the motherboard. In regard to my Asus board, a slot underneath the PCH heat sink. 

 

You don't need a separate drive for flight sim. Not these days. 

I have the 500 gb 960 Evo above, and then a 1 TB 850 Pro SSD.

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Get yourself a cheap 120GB for system and core apps, 500 for the rest and a mechanical if you need some storage. I moved to all SSD cause they are so cheap these days and that includes my storage drives.
 


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3 hours ago, PaulGR said:

I moved to all SSD cause they are so cheap these days and that includes my storage drives.

Cheap? It's all relative, I suppose!


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12 minutes ago, vortex681 said:

Cheap? It's all relative, I suppose!

I paid $107 for Samsung 850 500GB on Cyber Monday.
Got a crucial 250GB for $63

That is cheap.


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23 minutes ago, PaulGR said:

I paid $107 for Samsung 850 500GB on Cyber Monday.
Got a crucial 250GB for $63

That is cheap.

Whilst 500GB isn't a bad size for the OS and maybe one or two games (I wouldn't personally go for anything smaller), you really need much bigger drives for storage and then they're not cheap. A 1TB SSD, which I would consider to be the smallest useful size as a storage drive, is going to cost at least £250 here in the UK. For the same price you could get an 8TB HDD. Storage doesn't need to be fast and HDDs offer much, much better value/capacity for your money.

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32 minutes ago, vortex681 said:

Whilst 500GB isn't a bad size for the OS and maybe one or two games (I wouldn't personally go for anything smaller), you really need much bigger drives for storage and then they're not cheap. A 1TB SSD, which I would consider to be the smallest useful size as a storage drive, is going to cost at least £250 here in the UK. For the same price you could get an 8TB HDD. Storage doesn't need to be fast and HDDs offer much, much better value/capacity for your money.

I can’t argue with this. If someone has a lot of storage then your approach is a no brainer. 

 


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On 2/6/2018 at 4:57 PM, supernova48 said:

Right now the build includes this motherboard: MSI Z370 - A PRO ATX RGB Motherboard, but there are other ones to choose from.

My dilemma now what kind of SSD/HDD combination I need.  I'm thinking about a 500gb SSD for Windows 10, then a 1TB SSD for P3Dv4 and a mechanical HDD for storage.  I am confused on the whole M.2 SATA/PCIe setup and the order page doesn't really help me at all.

I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

Ken

If I had to do it over, I would simply get a 1 TB SSD, and a 3 TB external hard drive for backups.  You may only need 500 GB, depends on your needs with your sim/scenery/aircraft, etc.

Instead, what I did was buy two M.2 SSD's (one 250, and one 500) -- the Samsung 960's martin linked to above -- and then a 3 TB external hard drive.  At least that part I did ok on.  :)    What I am getting at, is that I don't know that my more expensive M.2 SSD drives were needed, over a "regular" SSD.  I probably should have bought 1 large SSD and been done with it.  It's only money though.  You can't take it with you.

I said get at least 500 GB in whatever you get, because I can easily see my 500 GB M.2 SSD getting crowded (it's nowhere near full now, but I could see it happening, running multple sims, advanced AI aircraft, the SDK, design projects, and scenery).

The 3 TB external drive is great though.  i hook it up when i need it, leave it on the shelf when I don't.  Big enough for full backup images of the entire system.


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9 hours ago, Mace said:

 

   What I am getting at, is that I don't know that my more expensive M.2 SSD drives were needed, over a "regular" SSD. 

 

The only thing I've noticed to be honest is boot times are faster and any background stuff fires up quicker. 

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