Installing F1 GTN 750/650 into Xtreme Prototypes Gates Learjet Model 25

[Cruachan 705]

Hi,

Has anyone had any luck installing these units into the Xtreme Prototypes Gates Learjet Model 25?

I appear to have covered all the bases but without any luck so far.

panel.cfg:

// First optional panel ------------------------------------

[Vcockpit03]
Background_color=36,36,36
size_mm=1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
// no_luminous=1
texture=$GLJ25_02_G_C
// gauge00=Lear_45_XML!PFD,248,119,536,800
gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,248,119,536,525,UNIT1.VC      <----- entry added
gauge01=F1GTN!GTN650,248,644,536,275,UNIT1.VC     <----- entry added

I've run the Flight1 GTN Series ConfigP3D tool and the necessary files have been added to the XP_Gates_Learjet_25_v2r1 and the XP_Gates_Learjet_25_v2r1  \Panel folders (F1GTN.ini and F1GTNSTACK.ini respectively). GTN Stack=Bottom Right

After loading the GLG Model 25 I have tried cycling through the available panels by clicking the button on the right above the gauge and the second click produces a blank rectangular gauge of the correct dimensions to accomodate the GTN 750/650 but nothing else.

Any help would be appreciated, please.

Thanks.

Regards,

Mike

Edit: I should have added that I have these gauges working fine in the A2A_C182, A2A PA24-250 Comanche, A2A PA28-180 Cherokee and the Milviz DHC-2 and 3 Beavers,

[newtie 533]

Hi Mike-

Check your code against this. Comes from the Flight1 File Library System..

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[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8192
SIZE_Y=6144

Day=255,255,255
Night=140,140,140
Luminous=180,180,180

[Window Titles]
Window00=2D Cockpit
Window01=GPS
Window02=Flight1 Garmin GTN750 U1
Window03=Flight1 GTN Stack
Window04=Flight1 Garmin GTN650 U1

// This addon has no main 2D panel (do not edit) -----------

[Window00]
background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=1
ident=MAIN_PANEL
window_size=1.000,1.000
window_pos=0.000,0.000
view_window_rect=8192,6144
nomenu=1

// Default FSX Garmin 500 GPS 2D panel -----------

[Window01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=456,378
position=5
visible=0
always_visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
window_size=0.400,0.550
window_pos=0.580,0.420
sizeable=1
gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500,0,0

[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=937,887
ident=14401
zorder=99
gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,  0,0,937,887,UNIT1.POP
window_pos= 0.660, 0.160
window_size= 0.340, 0.580

[Window03]
size_mm=255,870
Position= 0
window_size= 0.058, 0.243
visible=1
ident=14400
zorder=100
gauge00=F1GTN!GTNStack,  0,0,255,1039
[Window04]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=937,390
ident=14403
gauge00=F1GTN!GTN650,  0,0,937,390,UNIT1.POP
window_pos= 0.660, 0.740
window_size= 0.340, 0.260
zorder=99

// VIRTUAL COCKPIT SECTION STARTS HERE //////////////////////

// Default FSX Garmin 500 GPS display ---------------------

[Vcockpit00]
Background_color=36,36,36
size_mm=1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$GLJ25_01_G_C
gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500,211,248,670,586

// Dummy radar display -------------------------------------

[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=36,36,36
size_mm=1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$GLJ25_05_G_C
gauge00=XPGLJ25v2!dummy_radar_screen,212,270,602,445

// Tail number plaque (do not edit) ----------------------- 

[Vcockpit02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=256
visible=1
pixel_size=256,256
no_luminous=1
texture=$GLJ25_04_G_C
gauge00=XPGLJ25v2!n_number_plaque,0,0,250,100

// First optional panel ------------------------------------

[Vcockpit03]
Background_color=36,36,36
size_mm=1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
// no_luminous=1
texture=$GLJ25_02_G_C
// gauge00=Lear_45_XML!PFD,248,119,536,800
gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,248,119,536,525,UNIT1.VC
gauge01=F1GTN!GTN650,248,644,536,275,UNIT1.VC

// Second optional panel -----------------------------------

[Vcockpit04]
Background_color=36,36,36
size_mm=1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
// no_luminous=1
texture=$GLJ25_03_G_C
gauge00=Lear_45_XML!EICAS,248,119,536,800

// System gauges (do not edit) ----------------------- 

[Vcockpit05]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=256,256
visible=0
pixel_size=256,256
texture=$GLJ25_03_G_D
gauge00=XPGL25v2_Sound!FBGS_XMLSound, 18,5,1,1,SimObjects\\Airplanes\\XP_Gates_Learjet_25_v2r1\\sound\\extra#48
gauge01=XPGLJ25v2!misc_systems, 20,5,1,1 

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Cheers,

Mark

[louisgr 2]

Hi Mike,

I never had to run the Flight1 GTN Series ConfigP3D tool. All I did is change the original panel.cfg and it works fine. There are no other files like F1GTN.ini and F1GTNSTACK.ini. Remove these files and see if it works perhaps ?

cheers

Louis

[Cruachan 705]

Hi Mark, Louis

Thanks for your quick responses. I’ll take a look and try your helpful suggestions later on today and report back. Real world stuff getting in the way.....yet again! Lol!

Intrigued to know how the XP GLJ Model 25 Panel finds the F1GTN gauges if all it has to go on are those entries in Panel.cfg? Not at my PC right now to confirm but is there a F1GTN folder or F1GTN.dll file in P3D root? I’m guessing it has something to do with the ‘F1GTN!’ entry and would explain why those aforementioned 2 files may not be required.

Regards,

Mike

[Nyxx 6,993]

From memory you don't run the F1 config tool.

The GLJ docs come with a section to copy and paste into the config. Job Done.

Hope your sorted now when you get the time to look.

[Cruachan 705]

44 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

From memory you don't run the F1 config tool.

The GLJ docs come with a section to copy and paste into the config. Job Done.

Hope your sorted now when you get the time to look.

Hi David,

Thanks. Copying that section from the document was indeed how I started out. Something else is not in play here. Will see what transpires later. Interesting info regarding not needing to use the F1 config tool. I think what persauaded me was having to use it before the F1 red logo appeared against the entry in the aircraft listing of the tool. Apparently this confirms the ‘successful’ installation of the gauges, and yet it seems they ain’t in this instance. Go figure!

Regards,

Mike

[onebob 125]

12 hours ago, Cruachan said:

[Vcockpit03]

Hi Mike, don't have it installed at the moment but do have a copy of the Panel file. looks I installed it into the :Seconf optional panel ...Vccokpit04.. so you could try that

bob

// Second optional panel -----------------------------------

[Vcockpit04]
Background_color=36,36,36
size_mm=1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
// no_luminous=1
texture=$GLJ25_03_G_C
// gauge00=Lear_45_XML!EICAS,248,119,536,800
gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,248,119,536,600,UNIT1.VC

 

[Nyxx 6,993]

1 hour ago, onebob said:

Hi Mike, don't have it installed at the moment but do have a copy of the Panel file. looks I installed it into the :Seconf optional panel ...Vccokpit04.. so you could try that

bob

// Second optional panel -----------------------------------

[Vcockpit04]
Background_color=36,36,36
size_mm=1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
// no_luminous=1
texture=$GLJ25_03_G_C
// gauge00=Lear_45_XML!EICAS,248,119,536,800
gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,248,119,536,600,UNIT1.VC

 

That looks odd and as its just for the 750!

I will copy and paste what I used when I get home but I think it's

[Vcockpit03]
Background_color=36,36,36
size_mm=1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
// no_luminous=1
texture=$GLJ25_02_G_C
// gauge00=Lear_45_XML!PFD,248,119,536,800
gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,248,119,536,525,UNIT1.VC
gauge01=F1GTN!GTN650,248,644,536,275,UNIT1.VC

 

[onebob 125]

55 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

That looks odd and as its just for the 750!

I've just copied my files back into the add-ons folder and in it stalled in p3d v4.1 ok, had the same but remembered  you have to switch on the bat/ Gen and inverters.

bob

[Cruachan 705]

9 hours ago, onebob said:

I've just copied my files back into the add-ons folder and in it stalled in p3d v4.1 ok, had the same but remembered  you have to switch on the bat/ Gen and inverters.

bob

Hi Bob,

I'm afraid that didn't work either:

Mike

 

[Cruachan 705]

Louis: Disabled F1GTN.ini and F1GTNSTACK.ini:

XP_Gates_Learjet_25_v2r1\F1GTN.ini.OFF

XP_Gates_Learjet_25_v2r1\panel\F1GTNSTACK.ini.OFF

Result:
Panels appeared - correctly positioned and sized but with no image content. Gauges appear to be inactive (OFF?)

Renamed those files back to original ---> no change

 

Mark: Tried the panel.cfg from the F1 Library --------> still no change

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Relevant files and locations:

Prepar3D v4 root:

F1GTN_complete.xml
F1GTN_complete.dat

Prepar3D v4\gauges:

F1GTN.dll

F1GTN_Keyboard.ini

F1GTNSVC.dll

gtnInterface.dll

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Checked to make sure everything still working in the Lancair, Duke and DHC-2 Beaver:

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So, despite all best efforts, the continuing no show of the GTN 750/650 in the XP GLJ Model 25 Panel is proving to be very puzzling, to say the least, particularly as others seem to have had success. There must be an explanation, something simple we are missing, but what?

I do enjoy a challenge but, really, this is proving to be a stonker!!

Regards,

Mike

[Hubinwa 27]

Looks like your Radio Master switch is off.

[bakerman 31]

Yep turn Radio Master on and your GTN will get to life

[mattdee 3]

On 30/01/2018 at 0:51 PM, newtie said:

Hi Mike-

Check your code against this. Comes from the Flight1 File Library System..

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8192
SIZE_Y=6144

Day=255,255,255
Night=140,140,140
Luminous=180,180,180

[Window Titles]
Window00=2D Cockpit
Window01=GPS
Window02=Flight1 Garmin GTN750 U1
Window03=Flight1 GTN Stack
Window04=Flight1 Garmin GTN650 U1

// This addon has no main 2D panel (do not edit) -----------

[Window00]
background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,768
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=1
ident=MAIN_PANEL
window_size=1.000,1.000
window_pos=0.000,0.000
view_window_rect=8192,6144
nomenu=1

// Default FSX Garmin 500 GPS 2D panel -----------

[Window01]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=456,378
position=5
visible=0
always_visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
window_size=0.400,0.550
window_pos=0.580,0.420
sizeable=1
gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500,0,0

[Window02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=937,887
ident=14401
zorder=99
gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,  0,0,937,887,UNIT1.POP
window_pos= 0.660, 0.160
window_size= 0.340, 0.580

[Window03]
size_mm=255,870
Position= 0
window_size= 0.058, 0.243
visible=1
ident=14400
zorder=100
gauge00=F1GTN!GTNStack,  0,0,255,1039
[Window04]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=937,390
ident=14403
gauge00=F1GTN!GTN650,  0,0,937,390,UNIT1.POP
window_pos= 0.660, 0.740
window_size= 0.340, 0.260
zorder=99

// VIRTUAL COCKPIT SECTION STARTS HERE //////////////////////

// Default FSX Garmin 500 GPS display ---------------------

[Vcockpit00]
Background_color=36,36,36
size_mm=1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$GLJ25_01_G_C
gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500,211,248,670,586

// Dummy radar display -------------------------------------

[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=36,36,36
size_mm=1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$GLJ25_05_G_C
gauge00=XPGLJ25v2!dummy_radar_screen,212,270,602,445

// Tail number plaque (do not edit) ----------------------- 

[Vcockpit02]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=256
visible=1
pixel_size=256,256
no_luminous=1
texture=$GLJ25_04_G_C
gauge00=XPGLJ25v2!n_number_plaque,0,0,250,100

// First optional panel ------------------------------------

[Vcockpit03]
Background_color=36,36,36
size_mm=1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
// no_luminous=1
texture=$GLJ25_02_G_C
// gauge00=Lear_45_XML!PFD,248,119,536,800
gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750,248,119,536,525,UNIT1.VC
gauge01=F1GTN!GTN650,248,644,536,275,UNIT1.VC

// Second optional panel -----------------------------------

[Vcockpit04]
Background_color=36,36,36
size_mm=1024
visible=1
pixel_size=1024,1024
// no_luminous=1
texture=$GLJ25_03_G_C
gauge00=Lear_45_XML!EICAS,248,119,536,800

// System gauges (do not edit) ----------------------- 

[Vcockpit05]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=256,256
visible=0
pixel_size=256,256
texture=$GLJ25_03_G_D
gauge00=XPGL25v2_Sound!FBGS_XMLSound, 18,5,1,1,SimObjects\\Airplanes\\XP_Gates_Learjet_25_v2r1\\sound\\extra#48
gauge01=XPGLJ25v2!misc_systems, 20,5,1,1 

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Cheers,

Mark

Bingo works just fine thank you

 

[Cruachan 705]

5 hours ago, Hubinwa said:

Looks like your Radio Master switch is off.

Ugh, now I’m beginning to feel a tad foolish....lol

If that’s the answer I’ll be eating my digital hat!!!

.....AND, if this proves to be the solution then I was so close without realising it:

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/530310-installing-f1-gtn-750650-into-xtreme-prototypes-gates-learjet-model-25/?do=findComment&comment=3801845

.....in which I stated, “Gauges appear to be inactive (OFF?)”

Sadly that switch must remain beyond reach for a few more hours......soooo frustrating!

God, how this hobby gets to you. Anyone else feel the same or am I ‘preaching to the converted’?

Mike