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Hi Guys,

Im reinstalling everything from scratch, now that Prepar3d version 4.2 is out, I would like to know whats would be the best option, 

Keep Windows 7 Professional or Move to Windows 10,

now I guess not of all addons are Windows 10 Compatible right?

Thanks in Advance!


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W10 works perfectly for me. In fact I noticed increases in performance when I upgraded. I can't think of 1 single add-on that won't work on W10.


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Neal McCullough

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Hi Folks,

Win10 without a doubt - just don't do the "upgrade" - do the full OS wipe - - - I had to go back an reinstall clean after attempting the upgrades - on multiple machines...

Regards,
Scott


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I use Win10. I have orbx, pmdg, captainsim, pro atc x, pilot2atc, pfpx, majestic, gsx, simplecam, pta, fsrealtime (I've probably forgotten something). No problems at all.

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If you plan to network with other PCs I do not recommend W10. I could not make a W10 client talk to my W7 P3D server. I tried and tried, and eventually gave up. I am back with W7.

No doubt others will give you the opposite advice!


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Win 10 without doubt. It is already 2,5 years old. Why would you stick to an OS that was released in 2009?

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Just now, kiek said:

Win 10 without doubt. It is already 2,5 years old. Why would you stick to an OS that was released in 2009?

Same reason, some people stick with a flightsim platform, which is 10 years old :laugh:

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1 hour ago, Anders Bermann said:

Same reason, some people stick with a flightsim platform, which is 10 years old :laugh:

I agree wholeheartedly with this.

Rafikihd,

However, I believe that Win 7 is better for particularly FS2004 and elderly hardware. In your case, whilst your hardware was recently superceded with the last round of Intel CPUs, it is still more than competent to handle  P3Dv4 and I think Win 10 would be a better choice ... think DX11/12 at least, which I believe is not available for Win7.

There are lots of divided opinions on this subject on this and other forums and I think each side of the argument/debate has its merits.

Generally, as a personal opinion, I would go with "old OS with old Hardware and new OS with newer hardware"

Whichever OS you opt for, PLEASE follow Scott613s advice and do a clean install preferably with a re-format prior if that is convenient. (I have a dedicated 256gb SSD for the OS/Antivirus only and reformat with any change of OS of which I have done a few in the last couple of months)

Regards

Tony

 


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My System. Motherboard. ASRock Taichi X570 CPU Ryzen 9 3900x (not yet overclocked). RAM 32gb Corsair Vengeance (2x16) 3200mhz. 1 x Gigabyte Aorus GTX1080ti Extreme and a 1200watt PSU.

1 x 1tb SSD 3 x 240BG SSD and 4 x 2TB HDD

OS Win 10 Pro 64bit. Simulators ... FS2004/P3Dv4.5/Xplane.DCS/Aeroflyfs2...MSFS to come for sure.

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3 hours ago, betelgeuse said:

If you plan to network with other PCs I do not recommend W10. I could not make a W10 client talk to my W7 P3D server. I tried and tried, and eventually gave up. I am back with W7.

No doubt others will give you the opposite advice!

Just to give the opposite advice lol! 

Running 4 win 10 boxes on a 777 simavionics setup using a combo of simconnect/widefs with no issues

I was weary of leaving windows 7 but haven't regretted it ever 

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Thank you guys for all your answers!

Apparently Windows 10 is the option, hopefully it will also help performance wise, lets see.


SIM: P3DV5.3 CPU: Intel Core i7-4790k @ 4.0GHz GPU: GTX1060 6GB  OS: Windows 10 64Bits RAM: XPG DDR3 1600 16GB (2x 8GB) Display: Samsung LC27JG50QQLXZX 27´

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Win 10 Pro or Enterprise. They will allow you defer 'feature' updates (Service Packs and major updates) for up to a year and 'quality updates' (security updates) for up to 35 days.

I've been running Enterprise in this way for quite some time with no problems at all.

Cheers,

Mark

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If you like the prospect of having Microsoft force updates on your PC that can break your sim, then go for WIndows 10.  They did exactly this in Oct of last year and it took until Dec to get a fix in place...plus they force driver updates that can cause issues.  You have to go to great lengths to stop the auto-updates from surprising you. 

The only reason I would ever recommend you update is if you upgrade to a new CPU/chipset that doesn't support Win 7.  Win 10 has given me many hours of throbbing headaches, and it does not function any better as an OS base for FSX or P3D than Win 7.  Why risk it on a currently functioning machine?

Regards

 

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System1 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS @ 6.0GHz, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@30Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU, 1.2Gbps internet
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys2 (MSFS/XPlane): i9-10900K @ 5.1GHz, 32GB 3600/15, nVidia RTX4090FE, Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, EVGA 1000P2
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, 2x TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Portable Sys3 (P3Dv4/FSX/DCS): i9-9900K @ 5.0 Ghz, Noctua NH-D15, 32GB 3200/16, EVGA RTX3090, Dell S2417DG 24" GSync
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  Win 10 has given me many hours of throbbing headaches

OMG! Its too late now, I bought Win 10.

 

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Win 10 Pro or Enterprise

I bought The Home Edition, is it really bad?


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21 minutes ago, rafikihd said:

OMG! Its too late now, I bought Win 10.

I bought The Home Edition, is it really bad?

It's not really bad...it's what I have on my primary sim PC.  But it does not have the update deferral mentioned up-thread, so you have to go to some lengths to protect your config once you get it all set up.

I highly recommend the free utility OOShutup.  I use OO Software's defrag and drive image/backup software, and they're pretty good.  OOShutup allows you to put the clamps on updates pretty effectively, at least until MicroShaft figures out how to patch that out as well.

It's not the end of the world, but without some affirmative action on your part you may find yourself wishing for it to come a bit sooner late one night when you're trying to back out of an unwanted update to a dysfunctional nVidia driver (but hey, it's optimized for the latest FPS shooter).  ;-)

Regards

 

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Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

System1 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS @ 6.0GHz, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@30Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU, 1.2Gbps internet
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys2 (MSFS/XPlane): i9-10900K @ 5.1GHz, 32GB 3600/15, nVidia RTX4090FE, Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, EVGA 1000P2
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, 2x TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Portable Sys3 (P3Dv4/FSX/DCS): i9-9900K @ 5.0 Ghz, Noctua NH-D15, 32GB 3200/16, EVGA RTX3090, Dell S2417DG 24" GSync
Corsair RM850x PSU, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog HOTAS, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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Will Keep that in Mind W6KD,

 

Thank you anyways for the info!


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