Advice needed, possible new rig?

[paulwain 24]

EXPERT ADVICE!! What you think? Any changes - upgrades or downgrades? I’m not 100% knowledgable in computer specs etc but from the research I’ve done I think this should be more than enough for good smooth performance and graphics? 

Any help guys would be appreciated  I’m ready to click buy 🙊total
Cost is just under £3000 

Overclocked CPU
Overclocked Intel® Core™ i9-7900X Ten Core (3.30GHz @ up to 4.6GHz)

Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X299-E GAMING: ATX, USB 3.1, SATA 6 GB/s, WIFI - RGB Ready

Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2133MHz (4 x 8GB)

Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready!

1st Hard Disk
NOT REQUIRED

1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG PM961 M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3000MB/R, 1700MB/W)

Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i V2 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler

USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORT

Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit

[vortex681 806]

Any reason why you're going for an i9-7900x? There isn't currently a flight sim that could efficiently use that many cores and you could save a huge amount of money going for an i7-8700K which is probably the best CPU for simming at the moment. With the money you save you could buy another SSD (a second drive is always a good idea) and faster memory (3200MHz).

[paulwain 24]

2 hours ago, vortex681 said:

Any reason why you're going for an i9-7900x? There isn't currently a flight sim that could efficiently use that many cores and you could save a huge amount of money going for an i7-8700K which is probably the best CPU for simming at the moment. With the money you save you could buy another SSD (a second drive is always a good idea) and faster memory (3200MHz).

Thank you for your reply 

And no particular reason I just thought It would be good. So for P3D You think 8700K is the best? If it is then it takes £500 off so massive price difference.

 

and I was thinking of a second SSD drive but I don’t know if I will see any benefit of doing so? I only have one now unless you can convince me 😂

[vortex681 806]

26 minutes ago, paulwain said:

So for P3D You think 8700K is the best? If it is then it takes £500 off so massive price difference.

 

and I was thinking of a second SSD drive but I don’t know if I will see any benefit of doing so? I only have one now unless you can convince me 😂

The 7900x is a great CPU if you really need it for true multi-core apps but for P3D, single-core performance is still probably the most important factor and that's where the 8700k shines. Plus, overclocking it to 4.9 or 5.0GHz shouldn't be too difficult.

With regards to second drives, I'm a big believer in not putting all of your eggs in one basket. Plus, it's always useful to be able to back up important data in the event that your primary drive fails (less likely with modern SSDs but certainly not impossible). At the very least I'd go for a large HDD in addition to your SSD. Unless you're using your system exclusively for P3D, you'll probably be surprised at how quickly you fill up a single 1TB drive.

[martin-w 3,234]

I would agree with Vortex re CPU and also agree regarding the rapidity in which drives fill up.

In addition, why a 1000 watt PSU?

Given that components are getting more power efficient, you don't need 1000 watts unless you're contemplating SLI.

I'm a big fan of EVGA PSU's currently. Very reliable, great price and a ten year warranty. 

Regarding RAM, if you go for the 8700K (recommended) you would benefit from more speed. 3200 MHz or 3400 MHz is the sweet spot. GSkill Ripjaw V or Trident Z I would recomend. 

[BlueStar 323]

I bought a new system from Jetline back in the summer and have been extremely happy with it.  The only changes I made was going to Intel SSDs and air cooling.  I've always felt the bigger the power supply the better. :)

[scottb613 1,188]

Hi Folks,

Also like EVGA and they have a handy power supply calculator... Many need less power than they think - LOL - although Tim Allen would probably disapprove...

https://www.evga.com/power-meter/

Regards,
Scott

[paulwain 24]

Guys I really appricate your help and opnions 

So thanks to you ive made a few changes what you think?

*Updated** 

Overclocked Intel® Core™ i7-7800X Six Core (3.50GHz @ up to 4.6GHz)

Added an extra SSD Drive - 500GB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3200MB/R, 1900MB/W)

Power Supply: Changed from 1000w TO CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Processor Cooling: Changed  To LIQUID Corsair H100i V2 Hydro Cooler w/ PCS Liquid Series Ultra Quiet Fans

 

Anything else I need to consider, or shall I go ahead and press BUY 

[westman 257]

The price difference is huge.

memspeed you can run the I9 x299 and I5-I7 Z370 easy up to 3800-4000mhz

IPC on same FRQ very little diff bettween them if any.

Overclocking 4.9-5ghz on one core and the rest at 4.7ghz with HT off, you dont need HT on 10-18 core cpus for the sim.

When run dual GPUs the x299 is little faster , more pcie lanes.

I run a 7920X in the sim 5.0 ghz on p3d main tread the rest at 6cores 4.9 and 5 at 4.8.

shall test the 7980XE in p3d 4.2 next week , had a lot testing 4way SLI ( 4x1080Ti) have 2 asus 1080Ti Strix OC and 5 Galax 1080TI HOF watercooled   http://www.galax.com/en/graphics-card/hof/galax-geforcer-gtx-1080-ti-hof-watercooled.html

Have a ASUS Maximus X Apex Mobo Z370 and a 8600k not tested yet , on the way a binned 8700k 5.4ghz chip

Shall be fun to compare them in P3D V4.2 cant say anyting but now a run the 5.0ghz 7920X in the sim it work much smoother then my old 5.3ghz 7700k

900w from the wall , with 7920X at 5.0ghz with 2x1080ti SLI 

[Ted Striker 338]

Looking forward to your comparison results Westman. Thanks for sharing your tests with us.

Ted

[martin-w 3,234]

2 hours ago, Bluestar said:

  I've always felt the bigger the power supply the better. :)

 

Not really. No harm in having an oversized PSU of course, it's just a waste of money.

There is a case for having a PSU that runs at it's most efficient point in the power curve most of the time and that's usually around 60%. But with modern PSU's, even when heavily loaded they are still VERY efficient, in the upper 90% efficiency range. 

A 750 watt PSU in a modern system is perfectly adequate, with spare capacity, and will be functioning most of the time in it's most efficient band.  

[martin-w 3,234]

2 hours ago, paulwain said:

Guys I really appricate your help and opnions 

So thanks to you ive made a few changes what you think?

*Updated** 

Overclocked Intel® Core™ i7-7800X Six Core (3.50GHz @ up to 4.6GHz)

Added an extra SSD Drive - 500GB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3200MB/R, 1900MB/W)

Power Supply: Changed from 1000w TO CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Processor Cooling: Changed  To LIQUID Corsair H100i V2 Hydro Cooler w/ PCS Liquid Series Ultra Quiet Fans

 

Anything else I need to consider, or shall I go ahead and press BUY 

 

 

No... the i7 8700K!

 

And Z370 motherboard.

 

 3200 MHz or 3400 MHz RAM

 

 

[Charlatan 68]

What Martin said

[vortex681 806]

17 hours ago, paulwain said:

Overclocked Intel® Core™ i7-7800X Six Core (3.50GHz @ up to 4.6GHz)

Don't do it. The 7800x has a max turbo speed of 4GHz so it's already got a significant overclock to get it to 4.6GHz. The max turbo speed for the 8700k is already 4.7GHz before overclocking! Plus, the 8700k has a much larger internal cache (12MB), it costs about the same as the 7800x but the motherboards tend to cost less. It's a no-brainer!

Also, go for the faster RAM.

[Sartanius 399]

On 2/16/2018 at 11:00 AM, paulwain said:

Overclocked Intel® Core™ i7-7800X Six Core (3.50GHz @ up to 4.6GHz)

Added an extra SSD Drive - 500GB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3200MB/R, 1900MB/W)

Power Supply: Changed from 1000w TO CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

Processor Cooling: Changed  To LIQUID Corsair H100i V2 Hydro Cooler w/ PCS Liquid Series Ultra Quiet Fans

As several have said, Paul, go with the i7-8700K.  It has greater legs than the 7800X, which gives you upside flexibility. 

I am also building a system right now and went with the 8700K, the ASUS Maximus X Hero X370 M/B, G.Skill TridentZ DDR4 4000, and the Corsair HX1000i PSU since I'm going with an SLI setup.  My personal philosophy is to go for as much capability as I can when I build a new PC since I only do this every 4 years or so. 

Have fun!  You'll love your new build.