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man.....I cannot wait to buy it. I can't afford it at the moment but maybe in a few months. 

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This is a very well done aircraft, agree on the sounds ... once triggered they seem to fade out slowly ... very strange, is this accurate to real world version?   External sounds are off with a strange pitch shift as one moves around the aircraft.

But otherwise, the visuals and immersion is very well done ... love the rain effects on windshield and the lighting up of clouds as I fly thru them using HiFi AS4 is very realistic.  VC and external visuals are extremely well done (even the 2048 res VC textures are excellent).  The internal VC lighting is better than the TDFi 717 and it's using their RealLight system.

Flight model definitely feels different than other aircraft and it responds well to turbulence ... lots to learn about this aircraft as I'm currently on aircraft overload with the FF A320, FS A320, and now this gem LS MD-82 ... not sure what I'll do if PMDG release their updates/aircraft soon, and then Aerosoft's A330 ... too many quality aircraft and too little time.

So far, this aircraft has provided a immersion feel in bad weather that I've not experience in any simulator platform and/or aircraft to date (and I have many) ... but I might be bias as I'm a bad weather hunter when I do my flights.

It is missing a cabin.  There are a few other issues but most likely my learning curve on figuring it out (couldn't get it to hold my AP speed).

If they could address the audio issues, I'd give this aircraft a 9 out 10 and a bargain at this price point.  I'm sorta surprised more people aren't posting about this aircraft?

Cheers, Rob.

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Haven't really had much of a chance to test out the plane or admittedly read up through the tutorials. Just hand flew it a couple of circuits to get a feel, but with the parking brake and (and to a much less extent with the parking brake on) does the plane start moving forward? I haven't seen this happen in a long time with the default aircraft. I was just wondering if that's normal. The throttle and joystick is calibrated.

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About the moving with brake off...it depends on your gross weight, in my little bit of flying. Near MTOW, you won't move. If you're nearer to 100k lbs, you will move, which I think is great modeling.

My take on this aircraft after a very little time is positive.

I have the RotateSim version too, so I wasn't completely lost and was able to get airborn...weee. I think it is a better looking aircraft in the VC than the RotateSim version by a large margin. The Rotate version has the upper hand externally, but just by a bit. The sound. Yeah, I'm not liking the sound, but perhaps they'll work on that or a 3rd party sound pack will become available.

Frame rates are interesting, in that initially they were kinda low, but as time went on, they improved. All while just sitting on the ground. I don't know how that could be, but after about 10 minutes I had very good frame rates on the ground at EDDM payware with snow and dawn lighting. This was with High VC textures, High TrueGlass and medium TrueLights.

Going to fly some more and see what's what.

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Thanks RichieFly! Yea I figured that it depends on MTOW. I actually have never started cold and dark, and just had it load up in the ready to fly scenario, so I just assumed it would be close to MTOW. I could be wrong though. But it inching forward even on parking brake is a bit odd to me.

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1 hour ago, Kevin_28 said:

Thanks RichieFly! Yea I figured that it depends on MTOW. I actually have never started cold and dark, and just had it load up in the ready to fly scenario, so I just assumed it would be close to MTOW. I could be wrong though. But it inching forward even on parking brake is a bit odd to me.

I just wrote a long, thoughtful reply and this site bombed and it's all gone. lol

I missed the detail about moving with the brake on. No, that's not right.

Double-check your controller calibration.

I'll post my idle EPR value at a given airfield and temperature. You could compare yours with that as a check to see if idle is idle for you.

 

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Yea I noticed the site has been a bit slow today. I'll tinker with it a bit more when I get home tonight. Thanks again Richie. Yea if you can provide me with the EPR value when at Edwards AFB with only  clear weather that should be good. I know I tried hitting F1 to bring the throttles all the way back to idle, but it might still conflict with the calibration. We'll see.

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Kev,

OK. Here's what I get at Edwards at idle:

1.025 EPR

Good luck!

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Weak sound is a turn off for me. I think the sound is one of the most important immersion aspect to me. If a good plane has weak sound with changing pitch or other things like this, I just don't fly it, period. Will wait until the sounds get better.

MIke

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Has anyone tried the TSS MD-80 family HD sound pack on this release yet?

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I spent a few hours testing performance last night. NGX is my “standard” aircraft, compared to that I got slightly better frames in the Maddog. More importantly to me, frame rate is more consistent, NGX fluctuates a moderate amount (PMDG 747 is better in this regard, the Q400 is near perfect and the original v4 FSL A320 was the worst!)

dynamic lights and true glass may change this situation, I made my assessment when neither was in play. I did fly through some rain later on - enjoyed the true glass effect, but it seemed to cost a couple of frames. 

If you can fly the NGX on your system, you’ll be at least equally happy with performance with the Maddog. Well done, Leonardo.

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After some more flying...

My opinion is the RotateSim MD-80 has the upper-hand as of now. The sounds are much better. The engine dynamics are much better. The exterior model is much better. Systems-wise, it is hard to pick a winner. Both seem good.

I really like the Maddog's touches here and there. Calling the ground crew is fun. The PNF call-outs are very nice too. I still favor the Maddog's VC and lighting. I don't know enough about the flight model of a MD-80 to know the difference. They are certainly comparable to each other. I couldn't tell any difference in taxiing or flying. 

They're both very good and it's great to have a MD-80 in P3D.

For the initial release, I think Leonardo's done a great job. I have no regrets in buying the Maddog X.

Now, back to ground school. The autopilot confuses the heck out of me.

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6 hours ago, Greggy_D said:

Has anyone tried the TSS MD-80 family HD sound pack on this release yet?

Yes we needs sounds.

I turned my engines noise level up to max in P3D that helped.

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10 hours ago, Greggy_D said:

Has anyone tried the TSS MD-80 family HD sound pack on this release yet?

I’d also be interested in this.  I checked out their preview video last night and it didn’t completely impress me but it can be hard to tell from a youtube video sometimes

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I think I'll give TSS a shout to see if either:

  • It works out of the box.
  • If not, are they updating the sound pack?

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18 minutes ago, Greggy_D said:

I think I'll give TSS a shout to see if either:

  • It works out of the box.
  • If not, are they updating the sound pack?

Problem with TSS is that their focus is external sounds.  The internal blend of air /engine noise at different speeds doesn't work as well as internal sounds which are engineered to do just that.

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TSS has a post on FB from a few days ago that indicates they are working on a new MD-8X HD sound pack.

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20 minutes ago, Greggy_D said:

TSS has a post on FB from a few days ago that indicates they are working on a new MD-8X HD sound pack.

Pardon the pun, That sounds great.

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1 hour ago, Greggy_D said:

TSS has a post on FB from a few days ago that indicates they are working on a new MD-8X HD sound pack.

Great news! There newer pilot edition sound packages are excellent.

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14 hours ago, RichieFly said:

Kev,

OK. Here's what I get at Edwards at idle:

1.025 EPR

Good luck!

Yup that's what I get on the left and 1.03 on the right.

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2 hours ago, mpw8679 said:

Great news! There newer pilot edition sound packages are excellent.

Curious how that will work with the Maddog, tempted to try, had the classic.

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New sound package is great, but a plane at this price tag should already has great sound package included...

Mike

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