Resolved Newbee questions about the integration of a 750 in XP11

[cnovak 1]

I recently bought RXP and I am very happy with it. I managed to "install" two GTN750's in the Dash7-150, just above the original 530's. Works very well, but I got a couple of questions:

1. How do the screen coordinates top and left really work? My left panel: frame.rect = 14,1392,228,256 and right panel: frame.rect = 480,1392,228,256. Is the base top & left, the center of the screen? Somehow since they are both on the central console, the 14 left for the left GTN makes no sense to me. Is it maybe a combination of left + width?

2. Only one GTN gets powered on, is this normal? Both use the same power source.

3. The resolution of the GTN in the panel view is poor, in the Dreamfoil Bell 207 the resolution is perfect and everything is perfectly readable. It got nothing to do with the tilt angle. If I look straight from top, the screens are still fuzzy. The Dash7 was recently ported from XP10 to XP11, could this be the issue?

If have tried to attach a screenshot, but couldn't find a way to do it in the forum.

Other than that, I am very happy with it, just want learn more.

 

[RXP 2,336]

Hi,

Sorry for the delay. 

I'd suggest you download the GNS V2 X-Plane User's Manual from our website to view the B58 tutorial. It explains the 'coordinates', although for the GNS, applicable as-is for the GTN too.

As for the resolution, this is unfortunately a limitation in X-Plane: since there is no 'gauge' in X-Plane, our plugin must render the GTN on the panel, were the aircraft modeller as left space for the panel texture (panel.png). Therefore, the smaller this panel texture size, the larger the pixels for the GTN. It is possible to manually edit the aircraft files (act,obj) to remap the panel with a different resolution but it is really deep-tech knowledge I don't even master yet.

As for the power, you might want to look the content of the RXP log files for any info (see user's manual for file/path), otherwise, it is possible there is no 'copilot' power (side were the GTN #2 is connected to by default, you can change this in the settings panel).

[cnovak 1]

16 hours ago, RXP said:

Hi,

Sorry for the delay. 

I'd suggest you download the GNS V2 X-Plane User's Manual from our website to view the B58 tutorial. It explains the 'coordinates', although for the GNS, applicable as-is for the GTN too.

As for the resolution, this is unfortunately a limitation in X-Plane: since there is no 'gauge' in X-Plane, our plugin must render the GTN on the panel, were the aircraft modeller as left space for the panel texture (panel.png). Therefore, the smaller this panel texture size, the larger the pixels for the GTN. It is possible to manually edit the aircraft files (act,obj) to remap the panel with a different resolution but it is really deep-tech knowledge I don't even master yet.

As for the power, you might want to look the content of the RXP log files for any info (see user's manual for file/path), otherwise, it is possible there is no 'copilot' power (side were the GTN #2 is connected to by default, you can change this in the settings panel).

Hi Jean-Luc,

Thank you for your information. Off course, I did not download the GNS manual ;-) Now I understand, page 16 & 17 explains everything, excellent.

As far as the blurriness is concerned, you just confirmed what I thought may be the reason. Makes 100% sense otherwise the GNS/GTN would not scale to the various screen sizes of the users. Not a big issue for me as I run the GTN on an external 10 inch Mimi display link touch screen (no bezel) and that is like the real GTN.

Both GTN's are powered to the same bus, Main Battery. It is random which GTN 750 gets powered on or not, that's confusing me. Am I right, with the current license I may integrate 2 GTN 750's in one plane? I will check about the 'copilot' power as well next time I am on my XP rig.

Thanks a lot for your support.

Christian

[RXP 2,336]

Yes you are right, a product license gives 2 devices of the same type.

I'm not sure what could cause a failure when loading 2 devices though, and it would be best reviewing the GTN logs (see manual for file/path).

Please note the latest update is now live (via check update, or downloading the e-commerce installer from our website).

I'm about to post the release note in the forum but you can read them all already:

 

Edited April 9, 2018 by RXP

[cnovak 1]

1 hour ago, RXP said:

Yes you are right, a product license gives 2 devices of the same type.

I'm not sure what could cause a failure when loading 2 devices though, and it would be best reviewing the GTN logs (see manual for file/path).

Please note the latest update is now live (via check update, or downloading the e-commerce installer from our website).

I'm about to post the release note in the forum but you can read them all already:

 

Thank you for the head ups. I updated to the lasted version and restartet XP. I set both panels power source to "Always On". The right GTN is set to "Copilot". The right GTN changes the cursor while hovering over the button and dials, however it stays always blank.

Here is the content of the logs (can not attach anything in this forum)

18/04/09 19:49:34.530 10860 -    ] # rxpGtnSim64.dll version 2.4.16.0
18/04/09 19:49:34.530 10860 INFO ]
18/04/09 19:49:59.519 05232 INFO ]

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18/04/09 19:49:32.198 10860 -    ] # win.xpl version 2.4.16.0
18/04/09 19:49:32.198 10860 INFO ]

Since I can not attach files, here's my settings for the Dash7-150 (sorry for the mess):

[GTN]

; comma separated list of gauges

gauges = GTN_750_1, GTN_750_2

 

[GTN_750_1]

; comma separated list of render targets.

drawto = WINDOW, PANELS, PANELS

; is the master device if true.

MasterDevice = true

; connects GPS to copilot side if true.

CopilotSide = false

; selects COM/NAV Radios '1' or '2'.

RadiosPair = 1

; uses computer time if true, simulator time otherwise.

ComputerTime = false

; reduce screen update rate by half.

ReduceRate = false

; integral lighting rheostat index (0 to 3) or percent (-100 to 0)

Rheostat.Display = -100

; integral lighting rheostat index (0 to 3) or percent (-100 to 0)

Rheostat.Buttons = -100

; connects GPS to HSI if true.

LinkHsi = true

; connects GPS to HSI course if true.

LinkCrs = true

; connects HSI OBS to GPS if true.

LinkObs = true

; connects GPS to VOR if true.

LinkVor = true

; connects GPS to Autopilot if true.

LinkOto = true

; connects CDI key to NAV/GPS switch if true.

AutoNavGps = true

; enables automatic GPS/VLOC selection.

AutoSelect = true

; selects VLOC NAV '1' or '2'. '0' selects same source as 'RadiosPair'.

AutoNavSource = 0

; sets device power source: ALWAYS_ON,AVIONICS_BUS,MAIN_BATTERY

PowerSource = AVIONICS_BUS

; connects GPS to Shadin Air Data computer if true.

UseAirData = true

; connects GPS to Shadin Fuel Data computer if true.

UseFuelData = true

; connects GPS to Audio Panel if true.

UseAudioPanel = true

; connects GPS to Transponder if true.

UseTransponder = true

; connects GPS to RYAN 9900BX if true.

UseRyanTcad = true

; sets TCAD sound alerts volume in percent: 0 to 100.

RyanTcadVolume = 96

; sets TCAD maximum number of targets to X-Plane AI Traffic Count.

UseTcadAiCount = true

; enable device failures if true.

UseFailures = false

; uses Simulator GPS commands if true.

UseSimGpsCmds = true

; sets transponder VFR code (octal default: #1200).

VFRcode = #1200

; sets fuel type: AVGAS,JETA,JETB,DIESEL

FuelType = JETA

; sets ownship icon type:

; AUTO,LOW_WING,HIGH_WING,KIT_PLANE,TURBOPROP,TWIN_ENGINE,SINGLE_JET,BUSINESS_JET,2BLADES,3BLADES,4BLADES,ARROW

OwnshipIcon = AUTO

; sets TAWS type: TERR,TAWS_B,TAWS_A

TawsMode = TAWS_A

; sets TAWS surface: HARD,HARD_SOFT,WATER,ANY

TawsSurface = ANY

; TAWS minimum runway length (feet)

TawsMinLength = 1200

; TAWS approach air speed (knots), -1 (auto detect Vref: 120)

TawsApprSpeed = 120

; TAWS maximum flap extension speed (knots) or -1 (auto detect Vfe: 150)

TawsFlapSpeed = 150

; TAWS maximum gear extension speed (knots) or -1 (auto detect Vle: 165)

TawsGearSpeed = 165

; sets voice type: MALE,FEMALE

VoicePref = FEMALE

; sets master sound volume in percent: 0 to 100.

MasterVolume = 83

; selects the default database: 0: 'Garmin (North America)', 1: 'Jeppesen (Worldwide)'

NavDbType = 1

; selects the CPU running the trainer process: 1 to 32

; 0: last core, -1: automatic.

CpuAffinity = 1

; mute sound when simulator window looses focus if false.

NoAudioFocus = false

 

[GTN_750_1.WINDOW]

; display window if true.

visible = true

; show screen only gauge if true.

nobezel = true

; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS

frame.type = WINDOW

; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)

frame.rect = 22,1666,597,684

; screen only border size (pixels).

border.size = 10

; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).

border.rgba = #000000

; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)

usemouse = true

; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).

popleft = false

; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).

popright = true

; display as popout window if true (requires XP11.1).

undocked = true

; display mouse tooltips if true.

tooltips = false

; freeze display position if true.

locked = true

 

[GTN_750_1.PANELS]

; display window if true.

visible = true

; show screen only gauge if true.

nobezel = false

; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS

frame.type = PANEL3D

; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)

frame.rect = 14,1392,228,256

; screen only border size (pixels).

border.size = 0

; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).

border.rgba = #000000

; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)

usemouse = true

; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).

popleft = false

; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).

popright = true

 

[GTN_750_2]

; comma separated list of render targets.

drawto = WINDOW, PANELS

; is the master device if true.

MasterDevice = false

; connects GPS to copilot side if true.

CopilotSide = true

; selects COM/NAV Radios '1' or '2'.

RadiosPair = 1

; uses computer time if true, simulator time otherwise.

ComputerTime = false

; reduce screen update rate by half.

ReduceRate = false

; integral lighting rheostat index (0 to 3) or percent (-100 to 0)

Rheostat.Display = -100

; integral lighting rheostat index (0 to 3) or percent (-100 to 0)

Rheostat.Buttons = -100

; connects GPS to HSI if true.

LinkHsi = true

; connects GPS to HSI course if true.

LinkCrs = true

; connects HSI OBS to GPS if true.

LinkObs = true

; connects GPS to VOR if true.

LinkVor = true

; connects GPS to Autopilot if true.

LinkOto = true

; connects CDI key to NAV/GPS switch if true.

AutoNavGps = true

; enables automatic GPS/VLOC selection.

AutoSelect = true

; selects VLOC NAV '1' or '2'. '0' selects same source as 'RadiosPair'.

AutoNavSource = 0

; sets device power source: ALWAYS_ON,AVIONICS_BUS,MAIN_BATTERY

PowerSource = ALWAYS_ON

; connects GPS to Shadin Air Data computer if true.

UseAirData = true

; connects GPS to Shadin Fuel Data computer if true.

UseFuelData = true

; connects GPS to Audio Panel if true.

UseAudioPanel = true

; connects GPS to Transponder if true.

UseTransponder = true

; connects GPS to RYAN 9900BX if true.

UseRyanTcad = true

; sets TCAD sound alerts volume in percent: 0 to 100.

RyanTcadVolume = 50

; sets TCAD maximum number of targets to X-Plane AI Traffic Count.

UseTcadAiCount = true

; enable device failures if true.

UseFailures = false

; uses Simulator GPS commands if true.

UseSimGpsCmds = true

; sets transponder VFR code (octal default: #1200).

VFRcode = #1200

; sets fuel type: AVGAS,JETA,JETB,DIESEL

FuelType = JETA

; sets ownship icon type:

; AUTO,LOW_WING,HIGH_WING,KIT_PLANE,TURBOPROP,TWIN_ENGINE,SINGLE_JET,BUSINESS_JET,2BLADES,3BLADES,4BLADES,ARROW

OwnshipIcon = AUTO

; sets TAWS type: TERR,TAWS_B,TAWS_A

TawsMode = TAWS_A

; sets TAWS surface: HARD,HARD_SOFT,WATER,ANY

TawsSurface = HARD_SOFT

; TAWS minimum runway length (feet)

TawsMinLength = 1200

; TAWS approach air speed (knots), -1 (auto detect Vref: 120)

TawsApprSpeed = 120

; TAWS maximum flap extension speed (knots) or -1 (auto detect Vfe: 150)

TawsFlapSpeed = 150

; TAWS maximum gear extension speed (knots) or -1 (auto detect Vle: 165)

TawsGearSpeed = 165

; sets voice type: MALE,FEMALE

VoicePref = FEMALE

; sets master sound volume in percent: 0 to 100.

MasterVolume = 80

; selects the default database: 0: 'Garmin (North America)', 1: 'Jeppesen (Worldwide)'

NavDbType = 1

; selects the CPU running the trainer process: 1 to 32

; 0: last core, -1: automatic.

CpuAffinity = -1

; mute sound when simulator window looses focus if false.

NoAudioFocus = false

 

[GTN_750_2.WINDOW]

; display window if true.

visible = false

; show screen only gauge if true.

nobezel = false

; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS

frame.type = WINDOW

; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)

frame.rect = 3010,2132,830,790

; screen only border size (pixels).

border.size = 0

; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).

border.rgba = #000000

; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)

usemouse = true

; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).

popleft = false

; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).

popright = true

; display as popout window if true (requires XP11.1).

undocked = false

; display mouse tooltips if true.

tooltips = false

; freeze display position if true.

locked = true

 

[GTN_750_2.PANELS]

; display window if true.

visible = true

; show screen only gauge if true.

nobezel = false

; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS

frame.type = PANEL3D

; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)

frame.rect = 480,1392,228,256

; screen only border size (pixels).

border.size = 0

; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).

border.rgba = #000000

; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)

usemouse = true

; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires SHIFT+left mouse button).

popleft = false

; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).

popright = true

Edited April 9, 2018 by RXP

[RXP 2,336]

This sounds easy, here are some remarks:

1) Both GTN_750_1 and GTN_750_2 are set to COM1/NAV1.

You might want to set #2 to COM2/NAV2 instead?

2)

[GTN_750_1]
drawto = WINDOW, PANELS, PANELS
 

one too many 'PANELS' there.

3) 

[GTN_750_2.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = false

Self explanatory!

Either manually change the ini file, or: Plugins | Reality XP | GTN #2 | Show Window.

4) GTN #1 is on AVIONICS_BUS, GTN #2 is ALWAYS_ON.

You might want to try MAIN_BATTERY to compare ? (this depends on how the aircraft electrical system has been configured by the aircraft vendor).

 

 

Edited April 9, 2018 by RXP