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I posted this on another site, but there aren't as many people there as there are here. Basically I'm slightly annoyed with some features of FSX:SE, I think because it's not kept up to date. I was wondering if I should be using xplane instead? Nearly all my life I've used the MS version and loved it, but now I feel it's well out of date. 

I have never used xplane. Does it have things like atc? I can see some great addons for sale, but weather and atc are important for me. Also, is there something like Ultimate Traffic for xplane, so that it looks more real, and there's real AI feature? 

My basic query is, what's in one product that isn't in the other? 

Thanks, Gaz

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Hi Gary,

why don´t you try the demo of XP? XP has a ATC system, which has basically the same limitations like the MS FS ATC. The more accurate your flightplan is, the better it works. For Ai traffic, i use World Traffic, which isn´t easy to install, but if you get it running it works very well.

I would recommend you to try XP and also to test World Traffic. If i remember it correctly it has also a demo mode. Here you can get it: 

http://www.classicjetsims.com/WorldTraffic/

http://www.classicjetsims.com/WorldTraffic/updates.html

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That sounds great! 

I really appreciate you getting back to me. I think I'll give it a go. 

Gaz

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5 hours ago, Gary McCluskey said:

, but weather and atc are important for me

While being one of the most die-hard X-Plane fans, the quoted section above makes me say: "no, X-Plane is currently not for you" 😉.

Cheers, Jan

 

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Weather, I think you will have to wait and see what Active Sky rolls out in the future. Rumor has it that they are developing for XP11 but details are slim. World Traffic for your AI needs is a great program and the aircraft models look really good. Can't comment on the ATC as I don't use it in XP11 or on the Microsoft side, P3D in my case.

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That sounds great! 

I really appreciate you getting back to me. I've bought it now and I find it difficult to get used to the new user interface and joystick sensitivity! I'm going to spend the day training and watching some YouTube videos! 

Thanks! 

Gaz

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2 hours ago, Gary McCluskey said:

joystick sensitivity!

set your artificial stability sliders full left and your sensitivity sliders to about 50%

 

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Hello & Greetings, 

I am a longtime FSX/P3DV4 guy who recently made the leap to XP11 on what is currently an experimental journey. I am exclusively a GA type (former airline person in the real world). Overall, the XP11 platform is quite user friendly with more realistic engine behavior and flight dynamics, or so it seems. While the lack of ATC flexibility including lack of VFR is a bit of a bummer, I've learned older ATC programs like Radar Contact 4 (RC4) and PF3 have XP11 plugins and that offer some promise. 

I have a separate XP11 question that hopefully can be answered: In FSX/P3D the FSUIPC add-on permits specific mappings from keyboard entries to yoke buttons. What I am trying to accomplish in XP11 is to map the 1 and 2 keyboard keys to CH Eclipse Yoke buttons. This is for the purpose of utilizing the RC4 plugin for XP11 ATC comms. I have the XPUIPC installed but I see that is much different than FSUIPC. 

Many thanks. 

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Being brand new to XPlane, maybe I'm not answering your question right, but changing and assigning keyboard and joystick buttons and great, and much better in XPlane, I think.  In the settings menu, there should be both Joystick and Keyboard buttons that let you do it.  I'm sorry if I haven't answered your question - good luck.

Gaz

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10 hours ago, Les Parson said:

What I am trying to accomplish in XP11 is to map the 1 and 2 keyboard keys to CH Eclipse Yoke buttons. This is for the purpose of utilizing the RC4 plugin for XP11 ATC comms. I have the XPUIPC installed but I see that is much different than FSUIPC. 

I think your best bet is using an external software, google for: joystick to key mapper.

One of those programs is for example joy2key

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18 minutes ago, Murmur said:

I think your best bet is using an external software, google for: joystick to key mapper.

One of those programs is for example joy2key

Thanks, I'll check it out.

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15 hours ago, Les Parson said:

What I am trying to accomplish in XP11 is to map the 1 and 2 keyboard keys to CH Eclipse Yoke buttons.

Look at AntiMicro: https://github.com/AntiMicro/antimicro for downloads (releases) and https://github.com/AntiMicro/antimicro/wiki for setup information. Although the website talks about gamepads it works with any plug-in controller. Small, easy to set up and very effective. I use it with my joystick and racing wheel.

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Hello ….. is there a way to use X-Plane 11 mapping as FSX and/or P3d sim? Example, to zoom in/out I use the Spacer Key (holding down) from keyboard while I move the mouse pointer to view around like a camera.

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Brace Thyself!

You'll get tons of opinions on addons what to do etc...  take it all in slowly if you can.  XP is totally different than the FSX you and I are used to.  ATC isn't a strong point of XP11 at the moment.  Weather is alright...  (but yeah it will be getting a lot better once AS brings their engine to xp).  Remember how much time and effort we all spent setting up FSX back in the day... all the tweaks etc...  you'll need to spend a fair bit to learn about addons, controls, sliders, etc etc.  Just don't give up after a day hehe.

AND, the most important thing.  You don't have to switch.  I run P3D v4 alongside XP11 daily.  Literally I'll fly somewhere online in P3D then switch to XP11.  I admit it will get a little expensive if you buy addons for both lol

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49 minutes ago, trisho0 said:

Hello ….. is there a way to use X-Plane 11 mapping as FSX and/or P3d sim? Example, to zoom in/out I use the Spacer Key (holding down) from keyboard while I move the mouse pointer to view around like a camera.

You betcha; I find it very flexible and easy to set-up. I use the mouse wheel to zoom and right-mouse to look around. As a long time FSX/P3D guy, I have been completely addicted to XP11 for about the last two months. I've find it to be a very stable and reliable platform. Of course continued improvement and development is needed for things such as ATC and AI in my view. 

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I just installed the Demo X-Plane 11 and I don't see yet how to handle different views as panning like camera inside cockpit and outside. I will check on that later … 

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Try right mouse button click and hold and drag around.  You have to be in the virtual cockpit for that.  I think it's shift+1 or 2 maybe.

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I wanted to switch to XP when version 10 came out but it just didn't do it for me and I went back to FSX and then on to P3D.  When XP11 came out, I did that again. But, went back to P3D when the 64 bit version became available.  Well, about 18 months later, after long loading times and crashes, I'm now back to XP11.  I'm happy with the move (again) but still miss mostly decent ATC, traffic and seasons although there are options out there.

I like the fact that everything in XP is in place and not scattered all over my PC and that the installation of aircraft and scenery are quite easy.  Also, out of the box, it looks much better to me without having to add as much that I did in P3D.

But, I need to stop switching back and forth.  It takes awhile to get all the addons back each time!

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15 minutes ago, ricka47 said:

I'm happy with the move (again) but still miss mostly decent ATC, traffic and seasons although there are options out there.

That stopped me going to xplane. I read an article on their site where they asked people what updates they want the most of, and poor ATC was the biggest response. I love xplane, but I simply won't use it because ATC is a big thing in both the real and virtual world! 

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  Here is an excellent video on setting up the views for your planes....Its simple....Thats why I switched along with just using one hand to look around the cockpit with the mouse...

 

 

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2 hours ago, Delta111 said:

Thats why I switched along with just using one hand to look around the cockpit with the mouse...

When I used xplane, I loved that feature as well. 

However, the ATC was so rubbish that I switched back to P3Dv4 and use the app called Chaseplane, and you can assign views from all sorts of places from there. I love it...  Its easy to assign a button to looking around, or switching from internal to external for example. I loved it so much I went out and bought a new mouse with loads of extra buttons... Now I hardly use the keyboard for looking around. 

Gaz

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4 hours ago, Gary McCluskey said:

When I used xplane, I loved that feature as well. 

However, the ATC was so rubbish that I switched back to P3Dv4 and use the app called Chaseplane, and you can assign views from all sorts of places from there. I love it...  Its easy to assign a button to looking around, or switching from internal to external for example. I loved it so much I went out and bought a new mouse with loads of extra buttons... Now I hardly use the keyboard for looking around. 

Gaz

The devs are working on an ATC fix as we speak! It will probably be a while before we see it in an update.....

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7 minutes ago, strider1 said:

The devs are working on an ATC fix as we speak! It will probably be a while before we see it in an update.....

If they come out with it, I'm definitive gonna try it. Other than the ATC, I loved xplane. 

Gaz

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