Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 crash was deliberate?

[TheFamilyMan 280]

Read all about it:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/05/14/aviation-experts-theory-mh370-crash-was-a-murder-suicide/

Last thing you'd want to think about ever happening...

Edited May 15, 2018 by TheFamilyMan

[overspeed3 410]

Almost from the beginning, I thought the crash of flight MH370 was a deliberate act on one, or both of the pilots.  I always thought it strange that there was not a single cell phone call from any of the passengers that there may have been something very unusual going on, or that the aircraft had seriously deviated from the planned route...  But, a sudden and deliberate drop of cabin pressure could account for that silence. 

Hijackers could not silence everyone so quickly, including emergency radio transmissions by the pilots. 

Later, when some personal facts came out about one of the pilots, including (perhaps an unverified report)  re: a previous flight sim by him into the middle of the Indian Ocean, that made me really suspicious.... 

If there is a more plausible explanation and the pilot(s) are not at fault, I'd like to hear it.      

 

[amalishkin 10]

cell phone call? at 30000 feet? 

unless black boxes found and confirm, all this is suggestions and speculations and personal theories...

[SierraHotel 976]

Were you aware that the Captain was an avid and enthusiastic member of the flight sim fraternity? And went out of his way to help other enthusiasts? So we have yet another unsubstantiated theory based loosely on the quickly gathered "experts" opinions packaged as 60 minutes (of what?) and fed to the sheep. Give me a shout when they find the black box!

[John_Cillis 2,406]

Since one can only speculate on this, there can be a million reasons other than a deliberate act that something could have happened, something catastrophic and instantaneous.  Loss of pressurization, possibly from a strike of foreign debris into the cockpit, is a possibility.  Debris that high?  Always possible a fragment of a meteor could have hit the cockpit windows.  But it also could have been one of the pilots, but you would think some type of note or manifesto would have been left behind.  There have been mysterious disappearances of aircraft before, rare but it has happened.  At this point so many years later I do not think about this accident that much unless someone mentions it here.  Then it just puts my thoughts with the passengers and crew and I remind myself that out of the 3 or 4 hundred commercial flights I've flown as a passenger, only a handful have had trouble and in all cases the passengers and crew with me were unharmed.

John

Edited May 15, 2018 by Cactus521

[KevinAu 441]

1 hour ago, amalishkin said:

cell phone call? at 30000 feet? 

unless black boxes found and confirm, all this is suggestions and speculations and personal theories...

Certainly possible these days. If that aircraft had onboard wifi, like most do now, and if their subscription area covered the oceans, cell phones with wifi calling enabled with some providers could make and receive calls airborne. I’ve taken phone calls while sitting in the cabin at cruise over the onboard wifi.

[KevinAu 441]

I think the only thing that I have seen that speaks confidently to anything is that the aircraft was under control of somebody who knew how to fly when it made contact with the ocean. And I say that from the type of damage apparent on the piece of inboard aileron that was recovered.

I wonder how much investigation was put into determining which passengers also were pilots or even had flightsims. Cockpit security in many countries is not taken as seriously as it is here in the US. Even these days, access can be completely up to the discretion of the crew, regardless of security directives, in these other countries. It’s happened before, where a mentally ill flightsimmer tried to take over an airliner in flight, in Japan many years ago. It is entirely possible that the crew allowed someone into the cockpit who then subsequently took over the aircraft.

Edited May 15, 2018 by KevinAu

[Mike777 163]

13 minutes ago, KevinAu said:

I think the only thing that I have seen that speaks confidently to anything is that the aircraft was under control of somebody who knew how to fly when it made contact with the ocean. And I say that from the type of damage apparent on the piece of inboard aileron that was recovered.

I saw the same report.  But I don't understand how that shows intentional suicide/murder.   It seems to me that a gradual water landing suggests not only that someone who knew what he was doing was flying the plane, but also that he was trying to accomplish a successful water landing.  It would make more sense to me as a suicide/murder if the aircraft went nose-down at high speed into the water.

Mike

[Matthew Kane 1,343]

22 minutes ago, Mike777 said:

I saw the same report.  But I don't understand how that shows intentional suicide/murder.   It seems to me that a gradual water landing suggests not only that someone who knew what he was doing was flying the plane, but also that he was trying to accomplish a successful water landing.  It would make more sense to me as a suicide/murder if the aircraft went nose-down at high speed into the water.

Mike

Because he wanted to create the greatest aviation mystery since Emilia Earhart and wanted it to vanish, that was most likely the plan. The only part of his plan that didn't work was the ping from the engines, obviously he will never know how well his plan worked out but if it wasn't for those pings the mystery would have been even greater, which was exactly what he wanted. 

The soft water landing would have been to keep as much of the plane intact so larger pieces would sink and not have a large debris field that would float over the ocean over long distances. 

[overspeed3 410]

Yes, so much speculation remains - Ah, but even with the block box in hand right now, could it have any useful data at this point in time?  Not sure what the lifespan underwater is for that box to still be viable.

In any case, was it just a mere incredible coincidence that the T3  happened to overfly the pilot's hometown in Malaysia prior to heading over the Indian Ocean (as indicted in the above report).  

The other case in point: In the last 20 years or so, there have been at least two known cases where a commercial pilot has deliberately sent his aircraft, crew, and passengers into a fatal dive...

[fluffyflops 1,856]

Can you imagine the cost to Malaysian in lawsuits if it was proved he commited suicide, not just from the passengers but also from whoever had cargo in the hold. In short it could and probably would bankrupt them. The amount of money it cost Germanwings /  Keynon was astronomical. We will never known what happened and all the better for Malaysian if we don't. 

[Matthew Kane 1,343]

49 minutes ago, tooting said:

Can you imagine the cost to Malaysian in lawsuits if it was proved he commited suicide, not just from the passengers but also from whoever had cargo in the hold. In short it could and probably would bankrupt them. The amount of money it cost Germanwings /  Keynon was astronomical. We will never known what happened and all the better for Malaysian if we don't. 

This airline is owned by Khazanah Nasional which is the sovereign wealth fund of the Government of Malaysia, so it is a State Company. 

This is also a possible reason for him wanting to do this, he may have had political motivations and he had control of a state asset with 227 Passengers on board. That is one way to get back at your government. Apparently he had a political alliance with someone his government had arrested but I am not too sure the details, politics is too complex an issue sometimes.

[fluffyflops 1,856]

I know Matthew,  but look at the state of other state owned carriers. 

This would of been colossal for them, and I think they where running a huge deceicpt before the incident??? 

[BIGSKY 316]

Anyone know if the Flight crew O2 hose AD was complied with,on this A/C?

[Matthew Kane 1,343]

33 minutes ago, tooting said:

I know Matthew,  but look at the state of other state owned carriers. 

This would of been colossal for them, and I think they where running a huge deceicpt before the incident??? 

Oh yes I completely agree, employee sabotage, willful and deliberate damage, it has all of these things, amazing if this theory true how much damage one man can create.