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Which is better? V4 or V3

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im currently playing fsx SE. and it runs well to about 25-35 fps. Now i feel like i just want to move from FSX to P3D. now the thing is my laptop is  from 2015. and so i was thinking which to choose, the v4 or the v3. short answer is recommended

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I have a 4 year old desktop, and V3.4 runs well on my rig with medium to higher settings , giving me FPS around 30-35 average. My rig, according to LM recommendations, is not sufficient to properly run V4, and since I have never had an OOM, and my sim never crashes, I am going to stay with V3.4 until my PC dies altogether. I would think that a 3 year old laptop would struggle to run V4. 


 

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27 minutes ago, hmuller said:

Go v3 , more stable.

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I have found V4 pretty stable. I don't crash anymore when memory runs out. So I am not sure more stable is an accurate term. From what I have read here, V4 seems to be pretty solid for others as well. I still think V4 would be the solution. From my experiences, the newer release is often more solid after they had time to iron out the newer release kinks, V4 has been out for around a year now. You just should not run the sliders all the way up. Also, should you go out and win the lottery and have some free dollars, you can upgrade your rig too and already have the newer license. You need to check your hardware specification and match them to what LM recommends. 

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4. All day. No comparison.

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Why would you not go with the latest version??  V4 is perfectly stable for me and being 64 bit means no VAS worries.  It is much better than V3 IMO....


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40 minutes ago, Flic1 said:

Why would you not go with the latest version??  V4 is perfectly stable for me and being 64 bit means no VAS worries.  It is much better than V3 IMO....

Because as the OP stated, he has a 3 year old Laptop. LM recommends for V4, a Quad core 3.5 GB per core, 16 gigs of ram, and a GPU with 8GB. Don't think you are going to find that in a 3 year old laptop very often. 

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the only issue I have with V4 is blurred textures if you run with unlimited Frames. I think this is because FFTF is ignored by the program when running unlimited frames. I'll hazard a guess that V3 is the same in this regard but when I tuned my system to maintain 30fps at Unlimited frames in V3 I did not have a problem with blurries!

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4 hours ago, mpw8679 said:

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Yes !  I (and other users) had a CTD,Faulting module name: ucrtbase.dll with FSLabs A320,so far no solution to the problem from FSlabs. Guess what?

Only with P3Dv4... 

With P3Dv3 no problems (with the same situation,scenery,weather,etc).

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12 minutes ago, hmuller said:

Yes !  I (and other users) had a CTD,Faulting module name: ucrtbase.dll with FSLabs A320,so far no solution to the problem from FSlabs. Guess what?

Only with P3Dv4... 

With P3Dv3 no problems (with the same situation,scenery,weather,etc).

The 64-bit P3Dv4 version of the FSLabs A320 is not the same program as the (32-bit) version that runs on P3Dv3.  So blaming P3Dv4 because one add-on had problems running with it on your system, while a different version of the add-on runs OK on a different version of P3D (and a whole bunch of different libraries etc) doesn't really lead to any conclusion that points to P3Dv4.  It's like saying that a Ford Mustang is bad because it ran poorly with gas from a 7-11, while an older Ford Taurus ran just fine with gas from Circle-K.  One implies nothing about the other.

For the OP--v4 has absolutely been the most stable version of P3D for me.

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10 hours ago, Rayhan Maulana Ahmada said:

im currently playing fsx SE. and it runs well to about 25-35 fps. Now i feel like i just want to move from FSX to P3D. now the thing is my laptop is  from 2015. and so i was thinking which to choose, the v4 or the v3. short answer is recommended

I'd recommend you remain with FSX:SE, until you acquire the hardware to run P3D V4.  If you're looking for an upgrade, acquire DX10 fixer, which will close the gap between FSX SE and P3D V3.  You're not going to get a significant return on your investment by upgrading to V3; after all, this is obsolete software.  As you recall, a lot of developers have moved exclusively to V4.  So, what advantages are you really gaining?  In essence, you're changing one abandon software for another.  In short, if you don't feel like your laptop can handle V4, stick with what you have.  Instead of spending money on V3 software, save it to procure more cable hardware.  It doesn't sound like your current setup has the capacity to take advantage of V4 features...   

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Although not being a P3D user that much ( seldom use it, and mostly for FSLabs A320 ), it is by far the most stable and performant of all version of P3D I have used, since the first released ( still 32 bit ).

I got with it the best frames, and the less stutters I had got before with other versions.


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I believe (but please correct me if I'm wrong) that Lockheed Martin has a 60 day refund policy on their products.

If so, and you're really interested, then maybe try P3Dv4 for a bit (not over 60 days) to see if you can get it to work at least reasonably well on your laptop, and if not, then request a refund.

I don't think there's  enough improvement between FSX-SE and P3Dv3 to justify the cost of changing to P3Dv3 at the present time..

In my own opinion, P3Dv4 is the way to go for the forseeable future.

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