Which version should I buy?

[Gaz 15]

Hi. 

I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I can't find a post. 

The problem is that I am a serious FSX fan, but I have been convinced P3D is an updated version of it, and I'm happy to invest in it. My question is regarding atc. If you look at the Licencing of the P3D page, it mentions ATC for the Professional ($199) version, but not the Academic licence ($59.95). So is there no ATC in the academic version? Either way, it's the ATC in P3D very different to the one in FSX? 

I would really appreciate it if someone can let me know as I'd love to try P3D out! 

Thanks, Gaz

[Bill Griffith 160]

There are great and better alternatives to use for the FSX style ATC.   Pilot2ATC and ATC-PRO X are two of the best.

Bill

Edited May 24, 2018 by Bill Griffith
Attempting to stay within the Forum rules.

[Gaz 15]

Neither of those products look good for me. I know there are faults with the FSX ATC, but it runs my aircraft alongside the other aircraft in there.

Doesn't P3D have much at all in any version? 

Gaz

[gregmorin 199]

32 minutes ago, Gary McCluskey said:

Hi. 

I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I can't find a post. 

The problem is that I am a serious FSX fan, but I have been convinced P3D is an updated version of it, and I'm happy to invest in it. My question is regarding atc. If you look at the Licencing of the P3D page, it mentions ATC for the Professional ($199) version, but not the Academic licence ($59.95). So is there no ATC in the academic version? Either way, it's the ATC in P3D very different to the one in FSX? 

I would really appreciate it if someone can let me know as I'd love to try P3D out! 

Thanks, Gaz

Gaz

The P3DV4 Professional and Academic are exactly the same program and features. The academic has a watermark in the upper right hand corner. The ATC is very similar to FSX if not the same. I use Pro-ATC X, which is great for airliners.

Greg

[Dean33 69]

PF3 is also very good. 

[Gaz 15]

Thanks for that, it really helps. I don't think that FSX ATC is great, but I use Ultimate Traffic, and I understand Pro-ATC doesn't work with that kind of traffic - only your aircraft? 

I think there is something similar to Ultimate Traffic for P3D? Sorry if I'm wrong, but please let me know... 

Gaz

[chass32 138]

If you´re somehow happy with fsx atc you´ll be fine with p3d atc. And yes pro-atc does not work wit ia traffic, but is probably one of the best investments I´ve made on P3D. If you fly IFR that is. I mainly fly thru Europe on a phenom 300 with GTN750 and VR.

 

cheers

 

Carlos

Edited May 24, 2018 by chass32

[NBouc 54]

Hi Gary,

 

I use Prepar3D v4.2 Academic and the ATC engine seems to be the same as what I had in FSX. For more realistic AI traffic, I use "Ultimate Traffic Live" and it does a good job. I never invested in a 3rd party ATC software simply because I don't use it, so I cannot comment on those.

[Gaz 15]

Hi NBouc, thanks. I like to use the ATC, and I know it's not great, but it's pretty important to me. Yeah, I agree, Ultimate Traffic is great. Does that work with P3D, or will I have to buy a different version? 

Thanks, Gaz

Edited May 24, 2018 by Gary McCluskey

[b1bmsgt 204]

I'm using UT Live with P3Dv4.2...

 

Russ

[NBouc 54]

Gary, UT2 is not directly compatible with P3D. UT Live is.

But if you are up to the task, here's a link to a tutorial made by "Poppet" explaining how to install UT2 into P3Dv4 despite UT2 not being compatible with P3D. 

If UT2 uses some FS9 AI models, these might not work in P3D.

 

Edited May 25, 2018 by NBouc

[simbol 5,767]

7 hours ago, Gary McCluskey said:

Thanks for that, it really helps. I don't think that FSX ATC is great, but I use Ultimate Traffic, and I understand Pro-ATC doesn't work with that kind of traffic - only your aircraft? 

I think there is something similar to Ultimate Traffic for P3D? Sorry if I'm wrong, but please let me know... 

Gaz

I use Pro-atcx with UTL (Ultimate Traffic Live) and booth work fine together.

Simbol 

[JoeFackel 760]

7 hours ago, chass32 said:

And yes pro-atc does not work wit ia traffic

Sorry, but thats nonsens: of course Pro-ATC recognize the AI traffic and you hear the transmission between ATC and AI.

I use UTL and PATC together, for me the best solution as i mainly fly 738 and 777. For VRF the better ATC solution is PF3 as far as i have heard.

[pete_auau 1,152]

8 hours ago, chass32 said:

If you´re somehow happy with fsx atc you´ll be fine with p3d atc. And yes pro-atc does not work wit ia traffic, but is probably one of the best investments I´ve made on P3D. If you fly IFR that is. I mainly fly thru Europe on a phenom 300 with GTN750 and VR.

 

cheers

 

Carlos

strange   it  works  for  me  the  ai  traffic  using  ut2  live

[Gaz 15]

I'm slightly confused.. I read that that ProATC does not talk to the AI traffic generated in Ultimate Traffic Live. It would be an interesting thing to try if it works together... 

I'm taking it that we're talking P3D ?

Thanks, Gaz