GTX980 to 1080ti?

[vortex681 806]

4 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

That’s why I’m considering a AOC 32” 2560*1440 monitor which increases workload by a more reasonable 77% and seems a decent compromise.

Ray, I have an AOC 32" QHD monitor (Q3277PQU) and my system runs comfortably (6700k at stock speed and GTX 1080) at that resolution.

[Ray Proudfoot 8,944]

Thanks @vortex681, you probably remember it was you who recommended that monitor to me.

Since then I bought a BenQ 27” QHD for photo work and love the quality so I’m thinking of the BenQ 32” QHD. More money but it has better build quality.

I guess you’re running P3D v4.

[vortex681 806]

20 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

so I’m thinking of the BenQ 32” QHD. More money but it has better build quality.

I don't know which BenQ monitor you're looking at but my AOC P3277PQU is exceptionally well built - better (and cheaper) than the BenQ 32" model I looked at when I was shopping around. It's still available for about £380.

[Ray Proudfoot 8,944]

52 minutes ago, vortex681 said:

I don't know which BenQ monitor you're looking at but my AOC P3277PQU is exceptionally well built - better (and cheaper) than the BenQ 32" model I looked at when I was shopping around. It's still available for about £380.

Ah, you have a different monitor to the one I was looking at on Scan. There's a substantial price difference which is why I wasn't attracted to Q3279VWF at £199.95.

However I have now found yours - Q3277PQU which is almost twice the price at £383. Why?

Perhaps MVA versus AMVA and an adjustable height on the more expensive one together with a USB3 hub.

Oh, and 31.5" versus 32".

That one seems similar in quality to the BenQ PD3200Q 32" at £440 although that is only a VA panel - lesser quality than MVA and AMVA. Odd.

[vortex681 806]

On 6/6/2018 at 7:17 PM, Ray Proudfoot said:

That one seems similar in quality to the BenQ PD3200Q 32" at £440 although that is only a VA panel - lesser quality than MVA and AMVA. Odd.

I'm struggling to find it now, but when I bought mine there was a web site which said that the panel manufacturer and model number for the AOC Q3277PQU and the BenQ PD3200Q was the same (I think it may have been made by AU Optronics). They were both released at the same time and, based on the panel info, I bought the AOC monitor because it was a much better deal at the time. There was also a Samsung 32" QHD monitor released at the same time as the other two which also had the same panel but flickered at low brightness levels which is why I took it off my wishlist.

Edit: Ignore the above! It was a different BenQ monitor (the BL3200PT). I found the link for the original web page I used: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/5875110ca

Edited June 11, 2018 by vortex681

[Ray Proudfoot 8,944]

vortex,

Useful site. Agreed that there's little or nothing between the AOC and BenQ except a slightly different stand. £60 difference at Scan but the AOC is not in stock.

I've just done some tests using my QHD BenQ plugged into my P3D machine. Interesting findings.

At EGLC Rwy 28 slew up to 1500ft and turn to heading of 250 to point towards EGLL in the distance. Slew the aircraft (Lear 25 for me) to a speed of 160kts to simulate VFR or IFR approach.

I did it twice - once in windowed res (2560*1440) and the second time in full-screen (1920*1080).

Max GPU load was 41% in both tests flying over central London and beyond.

Avg FPS was 23.3 in 1920*1080 and 22.4 in 2560*1440.

It looks like my 1080 can handle the increased res with ease. I have a UHD TV downstairs. I'm going to have to take the PC down there and try a 4K test. If it's not substantially worse then I would be tempted to a 4K monitor. The only problem is there's a huge gap after 32" with the next coming in at 40 (Iiyama) but generally 43" and that is too big to accommodate.

So perhaps I'm best sticking at 32" QHD.

[Ray Proudfoot 8,944]

@vortex681,

I'm back again after doing more tests and reading reviews. I connected my BenQ 27" QHD display to P3D and ran my EGLC to EGLL test which slews at 160kts at 1500ft over central London and then over Aerosoft Heathrow. This is a good test of autogen and Ai in a very complex area.

The increased resolution of QHD over Full HD didn't blow me away when I looked at the Learjet panel. Instruments were slightly sharper but not so much that it impressed me. The GPU load during that test remained around 40% peaking briefly around 48%. According to FSUIPC the average fps for that test was 27.7.

Tonight I changed that setting in Nvidia Control Panel that allowed me to run Windows at 3840*2160. I ran the same test and noted the GPU topped out around 50% (mainly in the 40s) but the average fps dropped only slightly to 25.6.

This has convinced me that my current hardware can support a 4K display. The increase of resolution from Full HD is 400% compared to a very modest 77% with QHD and the 1080 is more than capable of delivering 4K.

If I find my fps are struggling I can always reduce Autogen setting and Ai %. Ai especially eats a lot of fps.

Buying a monitor is a long-term investment for me. I had my Dell 24" 1920*1200 for 11 years and it cost me £500. The BenQ I'm looking at is more but when inflation is taken into account is probably cheaper than the Dell.

And in a few years 4K will become the norm as graphics card continue to improve. I believe if I bought the QHD monitor I'd regret it in less than a year. That's not criticising your decision as we all have different requirements.

There are very few 32" 4K monitors available but the BenQ 32" PD3200U ticks all the boxes for me. I'm not interested in larger as my desk space couldn't take it.

Until FS Labs release a 64-bit Concorde I'm going to have to fly it at 1920*1080 in P3D v3.4. I'll have to reduce my Windows resolution on the BenQ but the downscaling shouldn't degrade the image too much.

Having given it a great deal of thought I'm happy with the decision I've reached.

[vortex681 806]

Sounds like you've arrived at a good decision. I got my QHD monitor when I still had a GTX 970 and I didn't think that it would be too successful running at 4k with the sort of detail I wanted. That said, I'm happy with my setup which is just as well as I've no plans on upgrading the monitor for the foreseeable future.

[Ray Proudfoot 8,944]

vortex, thanks. I'm sure you gave the same amount of thought when you bought yours. Unlike other bits of kit monitors usually last several changes of computer and are long-term investments.

I'm sure yours will give you years of good service. When I first started running FS back in the 90s 800*600 was the norm and 1024*768 was really special.

I've been running 1920*1200 since 2006 (FS95?) with a 7800GTX (768Mb of RAM) switching to 1920*1080 in 2013 when I switched to a Sony 32" Full HD TV.

So this will be the first increase in resolution for for me for 12 years.

[brucewtb 249]

FWIW I have been running my sims (FSX & P3D) at 4K for nearly two years first on a 770 and currently a 980ti with minimal issues.  Provided you are sensible with slider settings frames are mostly 20 - 30 with usual suspect high end aircraft and scenery around terminal areas but much better at altitude. Now heavy weather can make things more difficult but this is manageable.  

Bruceb

[Ray Proudfoot 8,944]

Bruce, the 32-bit version of FSL Concorde-X cannot run higher than 1920*1080 whatever the FS version. The number of 2D popup panels eat VAS like there's no tomorrow. My other aircraft are fine.

Since my post a week ago I'm reconsidering my options again. My attention has been drawn to the Samsung MU6700 40" UHD TV. It can run at 4:4:4 which makes a big difference to text quality which is important for general computer use.

It's 7" wider than my existing Sony 32" Full HD TV which I could probably accommodate if I move my GoFlight rack and lose the Logitech speakers using the TV ones instead.

I'm sensible when it comes to scenery complexity. FPS is far more important than more ground objects especially when coming in to land when your concentration levels don't really allow you to enjoy the view.

I'll just need to avoid the bad weather. Not always easy in NW England!

[MartinRex007 390]

15 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Samsung MU6700 40" UHD TV

Looks like a nice monitor for the price. Let us know how you like it if you decide to buy it?

Cheers

Martin

[Ray Proudfoot 8,944]

Will do Martin. I'm enjoying the weather and World Cup at present so simming has come to a halt for now.